george costanza is arguably one of the best tv characters ever which is why curb is incredible.




- black_francis

and of course costanza was based on larry david. the show would have been nothing without george.

in my favorite episode ever, which includes so many great lines from george he says this gem to jerry:

"do you ever get down on your knees and thank god that you know me and have access to my dementia?"

so great.

of course i did. i was steaming...both for zepp and for mason. not fair to either of them. there was ZERO reason to pull zepp there, especially given that mason was clear that he didn't feel ready and that zepp has played extremely well for them.

that reese left was fired, whatever, at this time of the season and everyone all fort knox about it - not to mention the inside info i have from a legitimate, reliable source - tells me all i need to know. ultimately, it's a disservice to their #1 starting goalie. he's kind of an important player.

because flyers.
- hammarby31

wow, im not pulling the usual Richard move link plz, cause knowing you albeit through hockeybuzz i dont think youd just say that, but also cause in my gut ive been thinking this is bad.

i'll be pissed if the reason we got rid of hartnell (other than contract) was due to him not seeing eye to eye with berube. totally speculation but it seems like hartnell was of the "frick and frack" era and had more pull in the room with the younger players than berube. its almost as if berube was preaching "system, system system" like the school teacher and hartnell was the class clown that was held back a few years making fart noises in the back of the classroom. eliminating hartnell, in theory, showed a change of culture and would allow chief to be in charge..

...except that culture change resulted in a season fraught with shenanigans, tom-foolery and bad hockey.

again- all speculation.

not gonna lie, i didn't read any of this.
- black_francis

i think fart noises are blown out of proportion and taken out of context... maybe the fabric of his pants didn't agree with the seat on those days.

wow, im not pulling the usual Richard move link plz, cause knowing you albeit through hockeybuzz i dont think youd just say that, but also cause in my gut ive been thinking this is bad.
- JoeRussomanno

i immediately went to my source who got back to me right away. i posted his exact quote in here which said this:

seems to be performance related, or at very least should say it is not a personal or health issue ... texted back and forth with Jeff already and said he is OK ... Hextall was a pain in the ass for goalie coaches in LA, always weighing in with outdated advice, and wonder if that element is at play here ... some word he may want Sean Burke, who is rumoured to be in final year with Coyotes but who knows?

Mason is floored by the whole thing

i have no reason to make this up. my source is well connected.

ive also considered the possibility that the reason umberger got so much playing time, even if injured, was possibly because the team and himself knew this was likely his final year(s) in the NHL. so as a gentleman's move the team said play out the year, see what you can do because we totally plan on buying you out ASAP and there is very little chance another team grabs you.

so maybe as professional courtesy the team let him play out a season with the team with little to no healthy scratches and PP time so he can soak in his final days before he gets shot off into the sun. i mean, we do have hard-ons for former flyers..
- black_francis

I have to admit it was tough to see Brayden Coburn go, especially with the season he's had because we all know he's capable of much better play. I will admit that freeing some cap space, receiving a first round pick and the excitement of adding a tough roster player on a team that's in need of toughness softens the blow.

The next step should absolutely continuing this trend. If RJ Umberger's buyout hit after being bought out is only 1.5 or 1.6, the Flyers shouldn't even hesitate should they run out of options or takers to take him on. Hopefully there is a team looking to get above the cap floor who might trade for him and buy him out for us. Vincent Lecavalier is obviously a more tricky situation but if we can get Umberger completely off the books and cannot find any takers for Vinny, I'd bite the bullet and buyout Vinny.

I truly believe Andrew MacDonald has more rope then all the players above. I wouldn't buy him out but I'd shop him all summer! If I'm the Islanders, unless they really hate the contract, I don't see why they wouldn't take him back. He's home grown and Lubomir Visnovsky is out the door this summer.

i immediately went to my source who got back to me right away. i posted his exact quote in here which said this:

seems to be performance related, or at very least should say it is not a personal or health issue ... texted back and forth with Jeff already and said he is OK ... Hextall was a pain in the ass for goalie coaches in LA, always weighing in with outdated advice, and wonder if that element is at play here ... some word he may want Sean Burke, who is rumoured to be in final year with Coyotes but who knows?

Mason is floored by the whole thing

i have no reason to make this up. my source is well connected.
- hammarby31

man if there ever was a time for a walter "has the whole world gone crazy?!" moment, this would be it

Has anyone noticed that Luke Schenn has only played one more game then Andrew MacDonald this season and has basically outplayed him in every basic stat. Look it up! If someone asks you who is better Luke Schenn or Andrew MacDonald, you'd have to go with Luke Schenn right now.

and of course costanza was based on larry david. the show would have been nothing without george.

in my favorite episode ever, which includes so many great lines from george he says this gem to jerry:

"do you ever get down on your knees and thank god that you know me and have access to my dementia?"

so great.
- hammarby31

hartnell has 25 goals and 58 points in 68 games

Giroux who

Umberger trade (frank)ing berube

- stayinthefnnet

the roommate switch episode, or as i call it, the menage. my favorite episode ever. not even close.

the roommate switch episode, or as i call it, the menage. my favorite episode ever. not even close.
- hammarby31

For me its cigar store Indian

hartnell has 25 goals and 58 points in 68 games

Giroux who

Umberger trade (frank)ing berube
- Winning

Hartnell was missed by this team in a BIG way. There is no doubt. On and off the ice.
We could have used his grit... Which this team was lacking
We could have used some extra goals... Which we witnessed too many power outages

Bone head trade. Said it from day one. Still have to believea better deal could have been made, maybe not in off season but during the season... Or as a part of a bigger package.

Parent acknowledges the record.
- Scoob

That's great. It's still a bullpoop record.

and of course costanza was based on larry david. the show would have been nothing without george.

in my favorite episode ever, which includes so many great lines from george he says this gem to jerry:

"do you ever get down on your knees and thank god that you know me and have access to my dementia?"

so great.
- hammarby31

Worst TV show of all time. Right up there with That 80's Show and anything that Jeff Dunham has ever done.

hartnell has 25 goals and 58 points in 68 games

Giroux who

Umberger trade (frank)ing berube
- Winning

Hey, hold on. Umberger has been turning it on lately. He has 4 goals and 2 assists this calendar year. Hartnell was only able to output HALF of that production last night. Trade was an obvious win, and we get a $100K cap savings for 3 years. What a steal.

Has anyone noticed that Luke Schenn has only played one more game then Andrew MacDonald this season and has basically outplayed him in every basic stat. Look it up! If someone asks you who is better Luke Schenn or Andrew MacDonald, you'd have to go with Luke Schenn right now.
- SuperSchennBros

So, Luke Schenn is a top-8 defenseman and AMac is a top-9 defenseman? What great defensive depth we have!

Add Hartnell and a healthy Timonen to this team while Subtracting Umberger and the Flyers, IMO, probably make the playoffs.

Add Hartnell and a healthy Timonen to this team while Subtracting Umberger and the Flyers, IMO, probably make the playoffs.
- BiggE

You can take Timonen out of that sentence and they're at least playing meaningful games right now.

JFC EK! Are you TRYING to make it impossible to use this site from an iphone?? STOP THE BS!!!

You can take Timonen out of that sentence and they're at least playing meaningful games right now.
- jmatchett383

For sure

Bone head trade. Said it from day one. Still have to believea better deal could have been made, maybe not in off season but during the season... Or as a part of a bigger package.
- 3flyerkids

That's what has baffled me, to this day. Was there no better outlet than to take on a beat, washed-up player who needed surgery? You're telling me that NOBODY else in the league had interest in Hartnell? Not even for a single 4th round pick? Not even for a bag of freakin pucks? I find that hard to believe. I find it hard to believe that the best deal to be made for him, was to take Umberger back...

I know, I know.. "a few years down the road it'll work out"... that still doesn't solve the question in the present.

I hate to say it, but I would have rather kept Hartnell, and dealt with the cap in other ways than doing the trade the way it went down. I just don't understand how that is the best return they could get for a gritty forward who, although he takes some bad penalties, is still a top 6 forward for a team in the league who chips in some good, hard-fought goals. Heck, even a 2017 conditional 6th round draft pick would have been better. At least they wouldn't have taken Umberger's contract and cap hit back, especially since he's hurt them more than helped them in taking a roster spot...

It just baffles me...

Hey, hold on. Umberger has been turning it on lately. He has 4 goals and 2 assists this calendar year. Hartnell was only able to output HALF of that production last night. Trade was an obvious win, and we get a $100K cap savings for 3 years. What a steal.
- jmatchett383

I like the trade. On the ice looking at the two players we were always going lose. Hartnell would have brought us that much closer to the 13th pick

hartnell has 25 goals and 58 points in 68 games

Giroux who

Umberger trade (frank)ing berube
- Winning

It's all about the PIMs bro. Goals don't matter.

Has anyone noticed that Luke Schenn has only played one more game then Andrew MacDonald this season and has basically outplayed him in every basic stat. Look it up! If someone asks you who is better Luke Schenn or Andrew MacDonald, you'd have to go with Luke Schenn right now.
- SuperSchennBros

I wouldn't. MacDonald doesn't make the coverage mistakes that Luke Schenn makes. MacDonald is significantly better then Schenn is, in my opinion.

When deciding whether a coaches player usage is is panicked and irregular, need to look at how the players have performed. Has there been anytime this season when the Flyers had more then one line performing well? At best they've had periods where they had the top line going, and another line contributing. The 2nd line has never been consistent this year, regardless of the combinations put together. The Couturier line with Read hurt, and Umberger under performing, and later getting another injury, was not consistent. When all that happens, a coach is going to continue to search for some kind of combination of lines to get consistent play out of a team. Berube wasn't able to put square pegs in round holes, so his usage of players in panicked and irregular! That criticism is hogwash.