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fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Mar 23 @ 10:41 PM ET
mcdavid, domi, duclair is a hell of a trio.

will still have boedker and hanzal, who if can get healthy are two extremely underrated quality guys.

then on the back end, OEL is a young franchise guy. have other young ones that have been marinating like Stone and Gormley.

then the picks from chicago/nyr to use or dangle.

- stayinthefnnet

Yeah if they do actually win the draft lottery, they could be in pretty good shape in a couple of years. The stable of prospects they have right now is pretty impressive, and they did a good job getting value for vermette and yandle.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 23 @ 10:41 PM ET
I know noone will believe me but I always thought dubnyk was a decent tender. I watched him play for canada at the worlds and remarked that he looked solid to me. I think he just got wrecked playing in Edmonton. Good to see he's back
- Hextall271

I think he's far from great but to be fair to him when is the last time any goalie had good numbers for that team?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 23 @ 10:42 PM ET
Another good, balanced take on Berube, worth the read

https://takingaflyer.word...f-mason-sealing-own-fate/
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 23 @ 10:42 PM ET
yeah this is part of my line of thinking.

having OEL is a huge head start for the yotes.

- stayinthefnnet


They don't have money though. Pegula can spend.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 23 @ 10:43 PM ET
The draft table is what kills them...

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00005054.html


- Tomahawk


I can see why they're tanking. Any pick outside the top 5 is pretty much useless
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 23 @ 10:43 PM ET
Yeah if they do actually win the draft lottery, they could be in pretty good shape in a couple of years. The stable of prospects they have right now is pretty impressive, and they did a good job getting value for vermette and yandle.
- fecondo


I know it won't happen. But if we win the lottery, you take mcdavid then who do you trade? Gotta send a centre out for a dman or winger IMO.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 23 @ 10:43 PM ET
I think he's far from great but to be fair to him when is the last time any goalie had good numbers for that team?
- hereticpride


Dubnyk had solid numbers for them. Three straight years of decent save % before last year's mess(.914, .916, .920)
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 23 @ 10:45 PM ET
I think he's far from great but to be fair to him when is the last time any goalie had good numbers for that team?
- hereticpride


Grant fuhr. And even then he prob had a 4 gaa and 875 sp.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 23 @ 10:45 PM ET
I know it won't happen. But if we win the lottery, you take mcdavid then who do you trade? Gotta send a centre out for a dman or winger IMO.
- Hextall271


I'd lean towards Schenn, but I'd see what other teams were offering. I'd be more open to playing Schenn at LW with McDavid and Simmonds than just giving him away
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 23 @ 10:45 PM ET
I take Edmonton and get my hands dirty.

Draft Eichel. Trade Nail for a pick to use on Provorov. Use the Pens pick to trade for a Goalie. Vaselevski maybe. Trade Eberle for a solid D man.

Tampa is just too easy.

- hereticpride


This is all quite wishful. Nail for a top 10 pick? TB trading a great goalie prospect for a late first rounder?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 23 @ 10:45 PM ET
Hamburgler now 14-0-1? Is that right?

Please please please get the Bolts in the first round.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Mar 23 @ 10:46 PM ET
This is all quite wishful. Nail for a top 10 pick? TB trading a great goalie prospect for a late first rounder?
- PhillySportsGuy

Tampa has Bishop. Nail is still worth a top 10 pick in my eyes...
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 23 @ 10:46 PM ET
They don't have money though. Pegula can spend.
- PhillySportsGuy


yeah. that is true.

like i said, between that factor and the stability in location, it could obviously sway someone depending on where you would rather take over.

but just evaluating the current pile of assets after this years draft should the balls bounce that way, i would go with AZ.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 23 @ 10:46 PM ET
Dubnyk had solid numbers for them. Three straight years of decent save % before last year's mess(.914, .916, .920)
- Jsaquella


The idiots running Edmonton couldn't be worse talent evaluators. They don't deserve mcdavid.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 23 @ 10:47 PM ET
The idiots running Edmonton couldn't be worse talent evaluators. They don't deserve mcdavid.
- Hextall271


If Lowe still has serious power, then it's an issue. They've been running fantasy drafts.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 23 @ 10:48 PM ET
Tampa has Bishop. Nail is still worth a top 10 pick in my eyes...
- hereticpride


say the flyers finish with the 6th overall pick. would you trade it for nail?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 23 @ 10:48 PM ET
Hamburgler now 14-0-1? Is that right?

Please please please get the Bolts in the first round.

- hereticpride


Isn't it 15 0 1? That's insane. Anderson's gotta be wondering if he needs to put his house on the market.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 10:50 PM ET
Tampa has Bishop. Nail is still worth a top 10 pick in my eyes...
- hereticpride


Bishop is a FA after next season I think.

I feel like top 10 in a strong draft is kinda high for Nail. He's been pretty bad
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 23 @ 10:50 PM ET
If Lowe still has serious power, then it's an issue. They've been running fantasy drafts.
- Jsaquella


Mac t is just as bad. They've got to get some people who can draft after the 1st round and flip some of the young talent to address needs before they ruin them with 2 decades of losing.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Mar 23 @ 10:50 PM ET
I know it won't happen. But if we win the lottery, you take mcdavid then who do you trade? Gotta send a centre out for a dman or winger IMO.
- Hextall271

That's a tough one. I think I would keep them all for another year to see who progresses the most (if at all).

If one of Coots, B.Schenn, or Laughton can show they can be a dependable 2 way threat at 2C, then I seriously consider moving Giroux. He would bring the best return, while opening up cap space for other pieces. Plus that is one hell of a salary to pay for a 2c.

If none of Coots bschenn or Laughton shows us they can be our 2c, then all are available for trade.

Ideally we would be able to keep them all, move G back to rw where he started his career. Move Voracek to 2RW and have balanced scoring lines
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Mar 23 @ 10:51 PM ET
say the flyers finish with the 6th overall pick. would you trade it for nail?
- stayinthefnnet

I get what you're getting at but for the Flyers, no. I'd rather a LW, C or D man in this particular draft class.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 23 @ 10:51 PM ET
say the flyers finish with the 6th overall pick. would you trade it for nail?
- stayinthefnnet


Not a chance.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 10:51 PM ET
If Lowe still has serious power, then it's an issue. They've been running fantasy drafts.
- Jsaquella


Flyers have been running fantasy free agency

Edit: this is pretty PLindish. Apologies.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 23 @ 10:52 PM ET
Flyers have been running fantasy free agency

Edit: this is pretty PLindish. Apologies.

- PhillySportsGuy


They have been
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 23 @ 10:52 PM ET
say the flyers finish with the 6th overall pick. would you trade it for nail?
- stayinthefnnet


No.
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