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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
Reports out of Finland that Ilya Kovalchuk wants to return to NHL by 2016-17.


http://www.tsn.ca/report-...yeing-nhl-return-1.238308

- Moose_15

(frank) off, is what I'd say
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
Whats happened to my Flyers.

Sigh.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
Somehow, I find it might be very, very difficult for Kovalchuk to get approval from, at least, one very, very displeased franchise located about 90 miles north of here.

Might have to wait till he's 35 -- which is still like 4 years away. Crazy he was only 28 when he bolted.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Mar 23 @ 12:33 PM ET
I think Read and Simmonds are pretty good wingers, don't you? I'm not going to knock Read for ONE bad year just yet. I agree more when it was Read and Umberger though.
- TheGreat28


I love Simmonds. Love everything about his game, yes he can be a bit inconsistent, but when hes hot, he's on fire, and when he's cold, he's still doing the "small things" that are needed from players.

Read- He is a solid nhl winger. He has above average playmaking skills, he's got an average shot, he's a very good defensive player, and he's got good speed. I think he still doesn't know 100% how to tie all those skills together throughout the course of nhl seasons though. He's a good winger, but I think we could easily upgrade through FA (cheaply) or through the draft.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Mar 23 @ 12:33 PM ET
Read should have been sat and allowed to heal with that high ankle sprain.
Another bonehead personel move.
How much difference would that have made, him being effective ES and PK

- Steelmanpa


I agree with you on sitting Read. I love that hockey players are so tough they play through pain. I also hate sometimes that hockey players are so tough they play through pain.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
Reports out of Finland that Ilya Kovalchuk wants to return to NHL by 2016-17.


http://www.tsn.ca/report-...yeing-nhl-return-1.238308

- Moose_15


Needs approval from all teams. Could be tough.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
(frank) off, is what I'd say
- Giroux_Is_God



Guy was absolutely gifted. Just a pure sniper with size and speed.


Intangibles aside, he'd look pretty good next to Giroux and Voracek, all I'm saying.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
Needs approval from all teams. Could be tough.
- PhillySportsGuy



Yeah -- I'm not so sure Uncle Lou will be pleased to read this in the newspaper.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
Guy was absolutely gifted. Just a pure sniper with size and speed.


Intangibles aside, he'd look pretty good next to Giroux and Voracek, all I'm saying.

- Moose_15

Agree completely.

That being said, he can still (frank) off.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Mar 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
I love Simmonds. Love everything about his game, yes he can be a bit inconsistent, but when hes hot, he's on fire, and when he's cold, he's still doing the "small things" that are needed from players.

Read- He is a solid nhl winger. He has above average playmaking skills, he's got an average shot, he's a very good defensive player, and he's got good speed. I think he still doesn't know 100% how to tie all those skills together throughout the course of nhl seasons though. He's a good winger, but I think we could easily upgrade through FA (cheaply) or through the draft.

- benjichronic



I'm the reverse on Read. I think he has an above-average shot and average playmaking skills. But really, that is quibbling.

The point is, they are a pretty good set of wingers. I think if Couturier was the playmaker that you guys are saying, there is more than enough skill there to have a pretty good line.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Mar 23 @ 12:38 PM ET
They are good.

But I also wouldn't mind upgrading on them.

I am probably one of the few who would trade Simmonds while his value is high.

- J35Bacher


I would in a heart beat assuming we get a really good return. Love him and his work ethic, but if we could get a solid defenseman, or a bona fide 2c, I'd be happy.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Mar 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
Agree completely.

That being said, he can still (frank) off.

- Giroux_Is_God


Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
Yeah -- I'm not so sure Uncle Lou will be pleased to read this in the newspaper.
- Moose_15

I disagree. I'd imagine he'd be enamored at the idea of shooting his hopes and dreams down
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Mar 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
Needs approval from all teams. Could be tough.
- PhillySportsGuy


I can see a lot GM's/Team Presidents lining up for the guy in their market

I can also see many of the same people doing anything they can to prevent it, especially if it benefits the Devils in any way at all. Lou L pulled a lot of shennanigans with roster moves which is one of the reasons there are the over 35 contracts and all the accompanying garbage in the CBA
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
Agree completely.

That being said, he can still (frank) off.

- Giroux_Is_God



And he'll sign with the Pens or Islanders and terrorize our developing D prospects until they've completed their rookie contracts and we have to trade/release them because of cap inflexibility.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 23 @ 12:41 PM ET
Yeah -- I'm not so sure Uncle Lou will be pleased to read this in the newspaper.
- Moose_15


I would let him back in. He's good for the sports and wants to play here
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
Reports out of Finland that Ilya Kovalchuk wants to return to NHL by 2016-17.


http://www.tsn.ca/report-...yeing-nhl-return-1.238308

- Moose_15


WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Mar 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
I would let him back in. He's good for the sports and wants to play here
- PhillySportsGuy


He's a selfish POS who abandoned his teammates here in the US, made NJ lose a pick, only to chase money in the KHL. And he claimed the main reason was to be with family... then why does he want to come back?

It wouldn't bother me if they don't let him back in...
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 23 @ 12:47 PM ET
I would let him back in. He's good for the sports and wants to play here
- PhillySportsGuy



World Class Talent.

But he basically franked the Devils -- their subsequent draft classes -- and their financials.

They couldn't re-sign Parise, too, because of their massive investment into Kovalchuk.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Mar 23 @ 12:48 PM ET
They couldn't re-sign Parise, too, because of their massive investment into Kovalchuk.
- Moose_15


...also this.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
You boys see OEL go Brian Leetch last night for his 20th? Pretty as a peach.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
Needs approval from all teams. Could be tough.
- PhillySportsGuy


I'm not sure why any team would give approval unless he is coming to play for them. And then the other 29 would be like, no soup for you!
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 23 @ 12:52 PM ET
I'm not sure why any team would give approval unless he is coming to play for them. And then the other 29 would be like, no soup for you!
- MBFlyerfan



I wonder though if it would create a problem with the players association. Also if Russian prospects see this or players from SEL or other leagues maybe they stop coming over. Probably not but I wonder if it would open a can of worms by basically denying him from coming back
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 23 @ 12:53 PM ET
I wonder if someone like Cam Fowler might become available. With the D guys there and emergence of Vatenen and Lindholm I wonder if a deal could be made with the Ducks.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Mar 23 @ 12:55 PM ET
I wonder though if it would create a problem with the players association. Also if Russian prospects see this or players from SEL or other leagues maybe they stop coming over. Probably not but I wonder if it would open a can of worms by basically denying him from coming back
- J35Bacher


I don't think it would, if it was based on past precedents. He really screwed NJ over good... As long as European players don't come over here and consistently do the same thing, they should have nothing to fear.
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