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grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Mar 24 @ 12:35 AM ET
While I agree Risto and Zadorov are capable, we have yet to see it consistently. Who's to say they won't have serious hiccups.

In the past calendar year we have seen

Myers gone
Ehrhoff bought out
McNabb gone
Pysyk have a mysterious illness

The blue line is looking a lot thinner right now

- sbroads24



Myers' last 4 years have been one big hiccup.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 24 @ 12:37 AM ET
So they haven't done it consistently(Risto & Zads) and what's to say they don't have hiccups. Sounds alot like describing Tyler Myers here

Risto/Zads
Bogosian/Gorges
Pysyk/McCabe
Ruhwedel


Brycen Martin also appears to be a solid prospect.
Doesn't scream the cupboard is bare.

- twistedwrister9



I thought the same thing
Difference is, u expect that from guys that aren't 20 yet
Myers was coming around for us though. His play was clearly better under Nolan, although still inconsistent in his own end...
And while some insisted he was a top pair guy, I never saw that in him
If he turns into one for Winnipeg, then good for them!
All I care about now is how Kane & Bogosian do for us
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:38 AM ET
Myers' last 4 years have been one big hiccup.
- grand-magus

You could say the same for Zach Bogosian. He's no all star
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Mar 24 @ 12:45 AM ET
You could say the same for Zach Bogosian. He's no all star
- sbroads24

You know what you're right.... Lets all jump in this time machine I just built go back and tell murray hes making a colossal mistake.
twistedwrister9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Zach Bogosian as Hitman: Agent 47, NY
Joined: 02.10.2011

Mar 24 @ 12:47 AM ET
You know what you're right.... Lets all jump in this time machine I just built go back and tell murray hes making a colossal mistake.
- zdp1189


Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 24 @ 12:47 AM ET
Unrelated comment. The NFL might just do away with that extra point. I say fine. 7 pts, go to commercial, get on with it.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 12:50 AM ET
Unrelated comment. The NFL might just do away with that extra point. I say fine. 7 pts, go to commercial, get on with it.
- Buffalo-Sabres



Might as well get rid of kickoffs then too.

No need for a kicker.
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Mar 24 @ 12:50 AM ET
Unrelated comment. The NFL might just do away with that extra point. I say fine. 7 pts, go to commercial, get on with it.
- Buffalo-Sabres

Saw some odd proposal where you could get 9 points on a td by converting a 2pt then kicking a 1pt from further out by the 33yrd line.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:51 AM ET
You know what you're right.... Lets all jump in this time machine I just built go back and tell murray hes making a colossal mistake.
- zdp1189

No, we should just blindly love every move he makes because he's built Stanley Cup teams as an NHL GM before and there is absolutely no way that he ends up doing a bad job here. That sounds better to me.

Go back to the night before this trade happened. 99% of us said it was a ridiculous trade and we wouldn't have done it.

I think watching this talentless team is really wearing on me
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Mar 24 @ 12:51 AM ET

- twistedwrister9

Itd save us all from the same conversation for the umpteenth time
lung3r
Buffalo Sabres
Location: i'm your huckleberry, NY
Joined: 02.13.2015

Mar 24 @ 12:51 AM ET
Unrelated comment. The NFL might just do away with that extra point. I say fine. 7 pts, go to commercial, get on with it.
- Buffalo-Sabres


Heck no...extra time to pee and grab another brewski
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 24 @ 12:51 AM ET
Might as well get rid of kickoffs then too.

No need for a kicker.

- dadeadhead


That I disagree with. The kickoff is a high intensity play. Anything can happen. The xp is a 99.3% play.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 12:52 AM ET
Saw some odd proposal where you could get 9 points on a td by converting a 2pt then kicking a 1pt from further out by the 33yrd line.
- zdp1189



https://youtu.be/1D5Sa2Yq-2g
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Mar 24 @ 12:54 AM ET
No, we should just blindly love every move he makes because he's built Stanley Cup teams as an NHL GM before and there is absolutely no way that he ends up doing a bad job here. That sounds better to me.

Go back to the night before this trade happened. 99% of us said it was a ridiculous trade and we wouldn't have done it.

I think watching this talentless team is really wearing on me

- sbroads24

And what good does whining and moaning about it now do? We havent even seen half the assests involved yet. The trade is done, its not gonna change. You want someone to pat you on the back and tell you you were right or something?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 12:54 AM ET
That I disagree with. The kickoff is a high intensity play. Anything can happen. The xp is a 99.3% play.
- Buffalo-Sabres



Just make it two hand touch and get it over with.
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Mar 24 @ 12:55 AM ET
https://youtu.be/1D5Sa2Yq-2g
- dadeadhead

yup, pretty much.
lung3r
Buffalo Sabres
Location: i'm your huckleberry, NY
Joined: 02.13.2015

Mar 24 @ 12:55 AM ET
No, we should just blindly love every move he makes because he's built Stanley Cup teams as an NHL GM before and there is absolutely no way that he ends up doing a bad job here. That sounds better to me.

Go back to the night before this trade happened. 99% of us said it was a ridiculous trade and we wouldn't have done it.

I think watching this talentless team is really wearing on me

- sbroads24

broads i respect your conviction on sticking with this myers argument... but please dont start to argue that we NOW gave up a top six forward too in staff..
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Mar 24 @ 12:56 AM ET
Just make it two hand touch and get it over with.
- dadeadhead

https://youtu.be/vlv6BrrxD_4
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:57 AM ET
And what good does whining and moaning about it now do? We havent even seen half the assests involved yet. The trade is done, its not gonna change. You want someone to pat you on the back and tell you you were right or something?
- zdp1189

No. I want our GM to be smarter next time he wants to acquire a player and not toss assets around like play money.

This has nothing to do with me being right or wrong, it has to do with whether this trade made us better.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 12:57 AM ET
broads i respect your conviction on sticking with this myers argument... but please dont start to argue that we NOW gave up a top six forward too in staff..
- lung3r



Well to be fair Staff is a 2nd line winger.
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Mar 24 @ 1:00 AM ET
No. I want our GM to be smarter next time he wants to acquire a player and not toss assets around like play money.

This has nothing to do with me being right or wrong, it has to do with whether this trade made us better.

- sbroads24

Ok, again, what can be done about it now? Everyone wanted staff gone, myers was starting to come around, when kane was armias age he scored 30, lemeiux didn't want to sign here. This conversation has been hashed some many times with nothing new being said.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 24 @ 1:03 AM ET
I can't wait to read these comments

zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Mar 24 @ 1:04 AM ET
This Unfriended movie i keep seeing previews for is gonna be god awful
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 24 @ 1:07 AM ET
Just make it two hand touch and get it over with.
- dadeadhead



I didn't realize the extra point was where the men were separated from the boys.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 1:08 AM ET
I can't wait to read these comments


- homiedclown



Go back to the archive do when the trade happened.


You can re-read what you're hoping to read in the morning now.
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