Ya, but I'm not counting on the Yotes winning tonight. Vancouver is a pretty good team, and Markstrom has been great all year in the AHL.
It'll take a great game by Smith for them to even be in it. Fortunately, he has remebered how to stop the puck lately.
I'd be thrilled if they could even get it to ot
- jdfitz77

Vancouver is very average. They have a beat up blue line and are a 1 line team.

Vancouver is very average. They have a beat up blue line and are a 1 line team.
- sbroads24

Last time they played the Yotes had countless odd man rushes.

Seth Jones was 5th in TOI for Nashville defensemen last night
- sbroads24

Must be BC he's horrible.
Or maybe it's the best defense in the league?
And he's better than Drouin & Barkov (and I really like Barkov)

Must be BC he's horrible.
Or maybe it's the best defense in the league?
And he's better than Drouin & Barkov (and I really like Barkov)
- jdfitz77

He's not horrible. You said I was making things up when I told you he is their 4th or 5th guy sometimes. I wasn't.

Also, he was the 1st defensemen drafted, so you really should just compare him to the 1st forward drafted which is Mackinnon

Strome with the hatty through two periods

he did not need to point out zadorov's mistake last night...it was painfully obvious to everyone...

those vets you mentioned are who they are and they're here for a reason...the youngins represent the future
- Michael Pachla

And this is why I don't think Nolan is right for this team, he needs to educate and talk to these guys all the time on the bench. After ever play, he needs to be talking to them. All the good coaches seem to do it but I never see Nolan talking to anyone during the game.

He's not horrible. You said I was making things up when I told you he is their 4th or 5th guy sometimes. I wasn't.

Also, he was the 1st defensemen drafted, so you really should just compare him to the 1st forward drafted which is Mackinnon
- sbroads24

This thing started with whether or not we should pick Hanifin at 3rd over Strome/Marner, not McEichel. Jones may have been 1st D taken but he was taken 4th overall so of course you should compare him to 2nd and 3rd. McEichel = the MacKinnon, Hanifin = the Jones, Strome/Marner = the Barkov/Drouin.

I've watched every one of their games since the deadline and the Yotes don't give up either. They play way better than the Sabres, in fact. They aren't getting outshot by 20 shots every game. They just don't score. But neither does Buffalo for the most part. The games will be pretty close I think. All we need is to split.
- Pierceme69

They seem to hang with everyone they play, I can't say that about us.

Vancouver is very average. They have a beat up blue line and are a 1 line team.
- sbroads24

Hope you're right
Does Arizona even have one line though? Lol

Strome with the hatty through two periods
- grand-magus

Baptiste doing good too

Baptiste doing good too
- Herzeleid

Kid was impressive at the prospects camp last summer, too. Very noticeable.

This thing started with whether or not we should pick Hanifin at 3rd over Strome/Marner, not McEichel. Jones may have been 1st D taken but he was taken 4th overall so of course you should compare him to 2nd and 3rd. McEichel = the MacKinnon, Hanifin = the Jones, Strome/Marner = the Barkov/Drouin.
- Herzeleid

I'd be fine with Hanifin to be honest.

My point was that defensemen do in fact take longer to develop and are tougher to predict.

Case in point is Seth Jones, he was a possible 1st pick and fell to 4th.

That's 4.

I don't wanna start this argument again, but if we pick 3rd I feel pretty confidant that Murray will take Hanifin.
- jdfitz77

It's not about an argument, when Murray was on WGR and brought up prospects and the draft he was most high on Bailey, then mentioned Strome. That's all.

*edit: and Baptiste

Strome with 6 points now

He's not horrible. You said I was making things up when I told you he is their 4th or 5th guy sometimes. I wasn't.

Also, he was the 1st defensemen drafted, so you really should just compare him to the 1st forward drafted which is Mackinnon
- sbroads24

Why would I only compare him to MacKinnon
U keep saying forwards develop faster than defensemen. Both Barkov & Drouin were picked higher than Jones. Not like I compared him to a guy picked 20th....


U can say defensemen take a long time to develop, but it's just not true when you're talking about studs like Ekblad, Jones, and now Hanifin

It's not about an argument, when Murray was on WGR and brought up prospects and the draft he was most high on Bailey, then mentioned Strome. That's all.

*edit: and Baptiste
- sippyd

Hopefully we don't have to worry about it
I missed this interview though. Remember when it was?

Why would I only compare him to MacKinnon
U keep saying forwards develop faster than defensemen. Both Barkov & Drouin were picked higher than Jones. Not like I compared him to a guy picked 20th....


U can say defensemen take a long time to develop, but it's just not true when you're talking about studs like Ekblad, Jones, and now Hanifin
- jdfitz77

Ekblad is an exception. Seth Jones hasn't really done anything yet.

He's 4th on their blue line in scoring and is not put out against top competition.

Mackinnon was close to a 30 goal scorer at 18.

Ristolainen is a stud, he hasn't done close to what Sean Monahan has.

I'd be fine with Hanifin to be honest.

My point was that defensemen do in fact take longer to develop and are tougher to predict.

Case in point is Seth Jones, he was a possible 1st pick and fell to 4th.
- sbroads24

And he's BETTER than the guys that went 2 & 3...
Him being picked 4th has what exactly to do with how quickly he was contributing?

You are so wrong with this it's insane
He IN FACT did contribute RIGHT AWAY
More so than Barkov, and Drouin got sent back to freaking Juniors!

Ekblad is an exception. Seth Jones hasn't really done anything yet.

He's 4th on their blue line in scoring and is not put out against top competition.

Mackinnon was close to a 30 goal scorer at 18.

Ristolainen is a stud, he hasn't done close to what Sean Monahan has.
- sbroads24

Ristolainen was not in the same league as the 3 stud defensemen I mentioned
I already said I agree about "most" defensemen taking longer to develop
It just doesn't apply to the very top quality
And that doesn't necessarily mean the top guy every year... Just so happens there's been three guys this good 3yrs in a row

Hopefully we don't have to worry about it
I missed this interview though. Remember when it was?
- jdfitz77

Probably a couple of weeks ago. I generally listen to them only when I'm in my car, He also appeared to have no opinion yet on Fasching, Hurley & Compher, saying they need further evaluation.

And he's BETTER than the guys that went 2 & 3...
Him being picked 4th has what exactly to do with how quickly he was contributing?

You are so wrong with this it's insane
He IN FACT did contribute RIGHT AWAY
More so than Barkov, and Drouin got sent back to freaking Juniors!
- jdfitz77

I'm not wrong at all. Defensemen take longer to develop. It's pretty much a fact. Seth Jones is nothing spectacular yet. You are making him out to be a Norris candidate. He's been scratched multiple times over his first 2 years

Ristolainen was not in the same league as the 3 stud defensemen I mentioned
I already said I agree about "most" defensemen taking longer to develop
It just doesn't apply to the very top quality
And that doesn't necessarily mean the top guy every year... Just so happens there's been three guys this good 3yrs in a row
- jdfitz77

Hanifin might be a complete stud, but he won't be able to step in and contribute in the same way Strome or Marner could IMO, and that has more to do with us as a team than the actual players.

Our D men have been getting a lot of pressure put on them and throwing an 18 year old right in the top 4 wouldn't be smart IMO

Hanifin might be a complete stud, but he won't be able to step in and contribute in the same way Strome or Marner could IMO, and that has more to do with us as a team than the actual players.

Our D men have been getting a lot of pressure put on them and throwing an 18 year old right in the top 4 wouldn't be smart IMO
- sbroads24

I still say trade the pick, if a good deal is there, if we aren't sitting at 1 or 2.

Hanifin might be a complete stud, but he won't be able to step in and contribute in the same way Strome or Marner could IMO, and that has more to do with us as a team than the actual players.

Our D men have been getting a lot of pressure put on them and throwing an 18 year old right in the top 4 wouldn't be smart IMO
- sbroads24

Strome and marner both will be in jrs next year then most likely a year in the Roc. It's the reason why missing out on mcheichel sucks. sure the downgrade in talent is more missing out on them but this team will be no different next year then this year. kane isn't taking us out of the cellar. Reinhart either if he even makes the team