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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:17 PM ET
Would you guys consider trading a package of both Schenn boys to EDM for Yak?
I think Yak has the top end offensive skills they need badly and in the right system (hopefully with a new set of coaches here) could really thrive.

I'm sure the deal may need to be tweaked but this intrigued me.
Sure it's risky, Yak may never learn the two way game. But keeping both Schenn's is risky in its own way.

I honestly don't think they can get a top flight D in a trade anymore.

- Marc D

I don't think EDM goes for that at all. Especially with MacT's inflated sense of value. Plus that doesn't help us at LW at all. We lose Schenn and pick up another RW.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:19 PM ET
Lots of Centers are going to go early in this draft. Good chance Coots is our 3rd line Center in a few years if we nab one of these guys.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 21 @ 12:23 PM ET
Even with Voracek he seemed challenged at times.
I'd still rather roll the dice with him on the 2nd line, and try to get another skilled winger in the mix.
If he would have scored on 1/2 the breakaways he had, he'd have at least 10 more points by now.

- puckhead17


Yea. It was clear to me that he couldn't keep up with jake. I think the guy is a great 3C. Nothing wrong with that
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:31 PM ET
"Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise. If I don't stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this maze?"

from my favorite Pink Floyd song, "Dogs"

#pointofuselessinformation

- BiggE


Nice. Great friggin' tune.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:32 PM ET
Nice. Great friggin' tune.
- tangent_man

the guitars solos in that song are just....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:33 PM ET
All four of the main centers are having mediocre offensive seasons at ES because they are coached to hang back in the offensive zone.

Giroux 1.61 ESP/60
Couturier 1.3 ESP/60
Laughton 0.85 ESP/60
Bellemare 0.79 ESP/60

- Feanor


Hanging back in the offensive zone puts them in the perfect position to get into the dangerous areas of the ice, when the fore checkers get on the puck. Also puts them is perfect position to intercept breakouts, and create turnovers to create transition offense. In Berube's center lock fore check system, the centers have the most flexibility to move around, and to be around the puck.

Bellemare is an NHL rookie, playing on the 4th line. Laughton is not ready offensively to play in this league. Couturier's offensive totals have a lot to do with the struggles of Read and Umberger offensively. Giroux is not having a great 2nd half. Giroux finished 3rd in the NHL in scoring last season, playing in the same exact system.

The system is not the reason for the poor offensive totals, in my opinion.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:35 PM ET
Fine, but there is no "I" in team.
- Scoob



Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 21 @ 12:35 PM ET
Lots of Centers are going to go early in this draft. Good chance Coots is our 3rd line Center in a few years if we nab one of these guys.
- hereticpride


That's definitely possible. It's also possible they get Rantanen or Meier and in a few years him and Couturier are both 50 point players playing together on a great two-way 2nd line.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:38 PM ET
the guitars solos in that song are just....
- Giroux_Is_God


Gilmour is a top 5 guitarist in any and all categories. Emotive as hell.

His solo album 'About Face' is a must-have.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 21 @ 12:40 PM ET
Hanging back in the offensive zone puts them in the perfect position to get into the dangerous areas of the ice, when the fore checkers get on the puck. Also puts them is perfect position to intercept breakouts, and create turnovers to create transition offense. In Berube's center lock fore check system, the centers have the most flexibility to move around, and to be around the puck.
- MJL


The centers have much more defensive responsibility than the wingers. That is why Vinny and Leacavlier have scored a lot more per ES minute than Bellemare and Laughton, and almost as much as Giroux. It's certainly not because they are as almost as good as Giroux.

ES Points per 60 minutes
Voracek ~ 2.31
Raffl ~ 1.79
White ~ 1.73
Giroux ~ 1.61
Lecavalier ~ 1.53
Simmonds ~ 1.50
VandeVelde ~ 1.48
Schenn ~ 1.40
Read ~ 1.34
Couturier ~ 1.30
Umberger ~ 1.01
Laughton ~ 0.85
Bellemare ~ 0.79
Rinaldo ~ 0.58
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
Gilmour is a top 5 guitarist in any and all categories. Emotive as hell.

His solo album 'About Face' is a must-have.

- tangent_man


Yup and I can't wait..
He has a new album and a tour on the way.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:49 PM ET
The centers have much more defensive responsibility than the wingers. That is why Vinny and Leacavlier have scored a lot more per ES minute than Bellemare and Laughton, and almost as much as Giroux. It's certainly not because they are as almost as good as Giroux.

ES Points per 60 minutes
Voracek ~ 2.31
Raffl ~ 1.79
White ~ 1.73
Giroux ~ 1.61
Lecavalier ~ 1.53
Simmonds ~ 1.50
VandeVelde ~ 1.48
Schenn ~ 1.40
Read ~ 1.34
Couturier ~ 1.30
Umberger ~ 1.01
Laughton ~ 0.85
Bellemare ~ 0.79
Rinaldo ~ 0.58

- Feanor


Centers have more defensive responsibilities than wingers in any system.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:51 PM ET
Yup and I can't wait..
He has a new album and a tour on the way.

- opeth_pa


I hadn't heard that. Nice.

Now I've got Blue Light running through my head...

"She squeezes, she freezes, she does what she pleases,
but she says she thinks of others all the time..."
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

Mar 21 @ 1:01 PM ET
Gilmour is a top 5 guitarist in any and all categories. Emotive as hell.

His solo album 'About Face' is a must-have.

- tangent_man



Agreed. Also my favorite vocalist in rock music.

"On An Island" is my favorite album of his. I will pay whatever I have to pay to see him live, which hopefully will happen soon after his European tour in the fall. Absolute hero.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 21 @ 1:01 PM ET

- tangent_man

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 21 @ 1:03 PM ET
Gilmour is a top 5 guitarist in any and all categories. Emotive as hell.

His solo album 'About Face' is a must-have.

- tangent_man

Absolutely!

Gilmour, Brian May, Alex Lifeson and Steve Howe never cease to amaze me and just blow me away! And yes, About Face is a phenomenal album.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Mar 21 @ 1:15 PM ET
Cups since.

Penguins 3
Flyers 0

- Just5

yes but we have the moral high ground, so there's that
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 21 @ 1:15 PM ET
Agreed. Also my favorite vocalist in rock music.

"On An Island" is my favorite album of his. I will pay whatever I have to pay to see him live, which hopefully will happen soon after his European tour in the fall. Absolute hero.

- FloHaake

not rippin into you here by any means, but that's the first time I've ever heard that!

Myself- I love the voice Paul has/had. He's really underrated in my opinion. Not saying he's Freddie Mercury, but man- he deserves more credit for that voice. He can go from the high Beatles harmonies to Let Me Roll It to Oh Darling...so versatile.

Let Me Roll It is one of my favorite songs out there.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 21 @ 1:17 PM ET
Noel with a monster game last night
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Mar 21 @ 1:18 PM ET
"Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise. If I don't stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this maze?"

from my favorite Pink Floyd song, "Dogs"

#pointofuselessinformation

- BiggE

deaf, dumb and blind....you just keep on pretending......

how many berube jokes can we cull from this?
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Mar 21 @ 1:22 PM ET
concrete charlie RIP
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 21 @ 1:24 PM ET
not rippin into you here by any means, but that's the first time I've ever heard that!

Myself- I love the voice Paul has/had. He's really underrated in my opinion. Not saying he's Freddie Mercury, but man- he deserves more credit for that voice. He can go from the high Beatles harmonies to Let Me Roll It to Oh Darling...so versatile.

Let Me Roll It is one of my favorite songs out there.

- Giroux_Is_God

McCartney, Mercury and Elton John are my 3 fave vocalists of all time.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 21 @ 1:38 PM ET
McCartney, Mercury and Elton John are my 3 fave vocalists of all time.
- BiggE

Elton

Early Elton is my favorite. Up until Madmanish. Elton John might actually be my favorite album of his, actually.

I love his voice though in the mid 70s. When the throatiness pops out in its infancy in songs like Island Girl and I Feel Like A Bullet (the high harmony he does in this song may or may not be the highest I've ever heard a man sing in a song). I think that's when his voice sounded best...I guess we can thank the beginning of the coke era for the raspiness?

Not many people can do what he did though with that throat surgery. He came out of that with Docs saying he'll never sing again and he said (frank) you guys and just dropped all of his songs down a few semi tones into Db and Eb and has stuck with that booming tenor ever since.

It's amazing how his voice has changed so drastically throughout the years. And to think...he HATED singing early in his career- he thought he sucked!

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 21 @ 2:07 PM ET
Elton

Early Elton is my favorite. Up until Madmanish. Elton John might actually be my favorite album of his, actually.

I love his voice though in the mid 70s. When the throatiness pops out in its infancy in songs like Island Girl and I Feel Like A Bullet (the high harmony he does in this song may or may not be the highest I've ever heard a man sing in a song). I think that's when his voice sounded best...I guess we can thank the beginning of the coke era for the raspiness?

Not many people can do what he did though with that throat surgery. He came out of that with Docs saying he'll never sing again and he said (frank) you guys and just dropped all of his songs down a few semi tones into Db and Eb and has stuck with that booming tenor ever since.

It's amazing how his voice has changed so drastically throughout the years. And to think...he HATED singing early in his career- he thought he sucked!


- Giroux_Is_God


Another great one with amazing range was Bowie, plus I love his songwriting. I do an instrumental version of Starman in my set, I love that (frank)ing song!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 2:43 PM ET
Elton

Early Elton is my favorite. Up until Madmanish. Elton John might actually be my favorite album of his, actually.

I love his voice though in the mid 70s. When the throatiness pops out in its infancy in songs like Island Girl and I Feel Like A Bullet (the high harmony he does in this song may or may not be the highest I've ever heard a man sing in a song). I think that's when his voice sounded best...I guess we can thank the beginning of the coke era for the raspiness?

Not many people can do what he did though with that throat surgery. He came out of that with Docs saying he'll never sing again and he said (frank) you guys and just dropped all of his songs down a few semi tones into Db and Eb and has stuck with that booming tenor ever since.

It's amazing how his voice has changed so drastically throughout the years. And to think...he HATED singing early in his career- he thought he sucked!


- Giroux_Is_God


Tumbleweed Connection is my favorite Elton John album. Excellent. Also like Goodbye Yellow brick Road and Captain Fantastic.
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