Remove the current restrictions on how far down a team can fall in the lottery...just let the probabilities work themselves out. Each team gets a certain number of balls in the bin and whenever their first ball is picked, that is where they are drafted. Do this for the non-playoff teams. So, a team that tanks on purpose, while they still have a say 25% chance at first overall, there will be a 75% chance that they don't get it and could actually fall down, theoretically to 14th.

So rewarding a team that tanks is on, but rewarding a team that played hard all season and just missed the playoffs is stupid....
- jl639s

It isn't about that. You should penalize bad teams because some teams tank. If a team is legit bad, how does it help if they are not getting a good draft pick? Also how does it help bad teams if good teams who just fall shy of they playoffs are getting the better players. Basically the Bottom half of the NHL will be stuck there.

The best solution I've ever seen personally.

http://www.sloansportsconference.com/?p=5496
- Dangles13

I'm not the biggest fan of that format ...but it's a start

My little tournament would keep teams trying to be competitive all year ...look at the teams who just miss the cut for bottom 8, they are still in a playoff race mostly ...this method would punish teams from trading any goalie who wins them a game and force them to remain competive at some level ....

The changes for next year are perfect.

Three lottery balls picked and anyone outside the playoffs has a chance (even if small) at picking in the top 3.

That means the last place team will only be guaranteed a 4th overall. In fact, a team that finishes last will have almost a 50/50 chance of not picking in the top 3. Pretty sound system in my opinion.
- Charliebox

I wonder how much of a heart attack the haters will have if LA missed, then got mcdavid.

But really, that's neither her nor there.
I'm concerned about parity. Some teams aren't just tanking. They're just bad.
But also don't have the options of signing or even dealing for big names (with ntc's ) to Kickstart said rebuild.
It's literally draft and wait and try and surround them with secondary free agents. That they still have to overpay to attract.

the oilers would not be better had the not been able to select the nuge after hall.
how does this make any sense to suggest otherwise?

Anything to stop people cheering to suck, and trying to say a coach should get fired for winning. Cheering to lose, no matter the benefits, is just one of the worst things to see in a professional sports fan base IMO.

Purple ribbons for everyone!

...but not allowing a team to draft multiple first overalls is just dumb!
- TheUltimateJet

No, constantly rewarding sucky teams year in and year out with gifted #1 picks is stupid. Oilers had the #1 in '10, '11, and '12... the 7th in '13, and the 3rd in '14. And here we are again.. them looking at possibly getting the #1. THAT, is dumb.

Why didn't they trade one of those picks for a few assets in an attempt to build a team? Why didn't/don't they trade Hall for assets to better the overall team?

The only "dumb" thing I see here, is front office management. In this case, the Oilers. Even if they get McDavid this year, that team will still suck next year. But hey, "this could be the one pick that makes them a contender"... yeah.. ok... They've been saying that every year. And how is Yak working out?

The system is broken. I'm all for helping teams out, as in giving them some preference in the draft. But I'm also against enabling stupidity.. which is exactly what has happened in Edmonton... Limiting the #1 pick within a time frame would be a starting point, imo.

Troll? What? You think RNH is a franchise player?

I'm not trolling the Oilers. In fact, I think they've gotten pretty screwed when it comes to the talent available at the drafts they've picked early. They've sucked for 4+ years and got high picks and the only franchise type player they got was Hall.

But he's still not even close to the same level as some of the 1st overalls in the past couple decades.
- Charliebox

The Oiler's problems are well documented, and they are in a position to get the pieces they need to turn the corner. ARI & BUFF are painfully obvious at tanking, and the worst part is they feel a sense of entitlement. Stop stealing the fans entertainment dollar and win a couple of hockey games Clowns!

No, constantly rewarding sucky teams year in and year out with gifted #1 picks is stupid. Oilers had the #1 in '10, '11, and '12... the 7th in '13, and the 3rd in '14. And here we are again.. them looking at possibly getting the #1. THAT, is dumb.

Why didn't they trade one of those picks for a few assets in an attempt to build a team? Why didn't/don't they trade Hall for assets to better the overall team?

The only "dumb" thing I see here, is front office management. In this case, the Oilers. Even if they get McDavid this year, that team will still suck next year. But hey, "this could be the one pick that makes them a contender"... yeah.. ok... They've been saying that every year. And how is Yak working out?

The system is broken. I'm all for helping teams out, as in giving them some preference in the draft. But I'm also against enabling stupidity.. which is exactly what has happened in Edmonton... Limiting the #1 pick within a time frame would be a starting point, imo.
- WarriorHockey21

hindsight is a wonderful thing isnt it

The cap evened the playing field. It's time to do the same with the draft.
- Feds91Stammer

DING DING DING DING

No, constantly rewarding sucky teams year in and year out with gifted #1 picks is stupid. Oilers had the #1 in '10, '11, and '12... the 7th in '13, and the 3rd in '14. And here we are again.. them looking at possibly getting the #1. THAT, is dumb.

Why didn't they trade one of those picks for a few assets in an attempt to build a team? Why didn't/don't they trade Hall for assets to better the overall team?

The only "dumb" thing I see here, is front office management. In this case, the Oilers. Even if they get McDavid this year, that team will still suck next year. But hey, "this could be the one pick that makes them a contender"... yeah.. ok... They've been saying that every year. And how is Yak working out?

The system is broken. I'm all for helping teams out, as in giving them some preference in the draft. But I'm also against enabling stupidity.. which is exactly what has happened in Edmonton... Limiting the #1 pick within a time frame would be a starting point, imo.
- WarriorHockey21

What trade have you seen where a team trades there best player for "assets" and instantly becomes better? We trade Hall and then everyone starts crying that were tanking.

So getting rid of Perron made the impact? I thought it was Eakins.
- Feds91Stammer

I didn't attempt to use simple cause and effect.

I said it hasn't hurt us at all in response to your suggestion.
and I'm right.

He wanted out, wasn't playing well, and we still got a solid return.
And aren't worse.

This doesn't sound anything like a tank move to me

Thank you. Why in the hell would an organization purposely suck just for a CHANCE at getting a 1st overall pick. It's not that a team is tanking, it's that they lack the skill to compete against solid teams.

And a GM/coach that would "tank" would be in the hot seat and potentially lose their job.
- Streit2ThePoint

cf: Philadelphia 76ers.

Owner: Josh Harris
GM: Sam Hinkie -- architect of a triple-tank

Josh Harris also owns the New Jersey Devils.

Why is it difficult to believe ownership wouldn't condone tanking for future prospects?

What trade have you seen where a team trades there best player for "assets" and instantly becomes better? We trade Hall and then everyone starts crying that were tanking.
- Oilfan19

You guys trade a 1st overall at the draft and your morons for doing so. You draft a player with that pick and it was the wrong pick.

Its been no win situation for the Oilers since outside fans and TSN agenda media love to scrutinize every move they have made or havent made

No, constantly rewarding sucky teams year in and year out with gifted #1 picks is stupid. Oilers had the #1 in '10, '11, and '12... the 7th in '13, and the 3rd in '14. And here we are again.. them looking at possibly getting the #1. THAT, is dumb.

Why didn't they trade one of those picks for a few assets in an attempt to build a team? Why didn't/don't they trade Hall for assets to better the overall team?

The only "dumb" thing I see here, is front office management. In this case, the Oilers. Even if they get McDavid this year, that team will still suck next year. But hey, "this could be the one pick that makes them a contender"... yeah.. ok... They've been saying that every year. And how is Yak working out?

The system is broken. I'm all for helping teams out, as in giving them some preference in the draft. But I'm also against enabling stupidity.. which is exactly what has happened in Edmonton... Limiting the #1 pick within a time frame would be a starting point, imo.
- WarriorHockey21

Yak has been fantastic ever since the natural disaster known as Eakins left town.

I'd like to know exactly what people think we could have traded one of those players for considering every GM in the NHL is lowballing the hell out of MacT due to our suck. It's a vicious cycle without an easy answer despite what people think. Tambellini and Lowe screwed the team over for a while.

No, constantly rewarding sucky teams year in and year out with gifted #1 picks is stupid. Oilers had the #1 in '10, '11, and '12... the 7th in '13, and the 3rd in '14. And here we are again.. them looking at possibly getting the #1. THAT, is dumb.

Why didn't they trade one of those picks for a few assets in an attempt to build a team? Why didn't/don't they trade Hall for assets to better the overall team?

The only "dumb" thing I see here, is front office management. In this case, the Oilers. Even if they get McDavid this year, that team will still suck next year. But hey, "this could be the one pick that makes them a contender"... yeah.. ok... They've been saying that every year. And how is Yak working out?

The system is broken. I'm all for helping teams out, as in giving them some preference in the draft. But I'm also against enabling stupidity.. which is exactly what has happened in Edmonton... Limiting the #1 pick within a time frame would be a starting point, imo.
- WarriorHockey21

The ole hindsight trading the picks argument.

And the ole fill one hole by creating another.

And the ole management must be stupid cause yaks isn't as good as we hoped already.


I astounds me who misinformed and clueless the masses are.
And they just swallow these fallacies that make for hood news without a second of thought

I wonder how much of a heart attack the haters will have if LA missed, then got mcdavid.

But really, that's neither her nor there.
I'm concerned about parity. Some teams aren't just tanking. They're just bad.
But also don't have the options of signing or even dealing for big names (with ntc's ) to Kickstart said rebuild.
It's literally draft and wait and try and surround them with secondary free agents. That they still have to overpay to attract.

the oilers would not be better had the not been able to select the nuge after hall.
how does this make any sense to suggest otherwise?
- Ihateallofu

And nobody in the league has/had interest in Hall, NH, or those picks? If your GM is looking at the small picture, and is just looking at the draft, that's part of the problem. You can pick a centerpiece to build your team around, and float others in trades. If you're planning on completely building a team out of the draft.. .like 100% as they seem to be doing.. it's going to be another 5 years and 5 more #1 picks if were even talking about Edm being a threat in the post season. Hall alone could have brought in a defenseman package.. the pick wasted on Yak could have brought something more to the team.

It's perpetual stupidity that is doing the Oilers in... There's ways to begin building a team.. so far, they aren't doing it.

And nobody in the league has/had interest in Hall, NH, or those picks? If your GM is looking at the small picture, and is just looking at the draft, that's part of the problem. You can pick a centerpiece to build your team around, and float others in trades. If you're planning on completely building a team out of the draft.. .like 100% as they seem to be doing.. it's going to be another 5 years and 5 more #1 picks if were even talking about Edm being a threat in the post season. Hall alone could have brought in a defenseman package.. the pick wasted on Yak could have brought something more to the team.

It's perpetual stupidity that is doing the Oilers in... There's ways to begin building a team.. so far, they aren't doing it.
- WarriorHockey21

Examples please?

...to the KHL
- glove_was_stuck

The ole hindsight trading the picks argument.

And the ole fill one hole by creating another.

And the ole management must be stupid cause yaks isn't as good as we hoped already.


I astounds me who misinformed and clueless the masses are.
And they just swallow these fallacies that make for hood news without a second of thought
- Ihateallofu

wow.. nice reply, "bro".

I guess picks bring nothing of value in return then, right? And I guess trading one player, bring back multiple, is not a good method to use in the NHL? I think that the majority of teams will disagree with you there. But hey.. you're the expert, "Mr. GM"... I'll take your advice and knowledge wholeheartedly.

Yak has been fantastic ever since the natural disaster known as Eakins left town.

I'd like to exactly what people think we could have traded one of those players for considering every GM in the NHL is lowballing the hell out of MacT due to our suck. It's a vicious cycle without an easy answer despite what people think. Tambellini and Lowe screwed the team over for a while.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

everything here

Shoulda drafted trouba or forsberg or some bs is coming soon I'm sure.

You guys trade a 1st overall at the draft and your morons for doing so. You draft a player with that pick and it was the wrong pick.

Its been no win situation for the Oilers since outside fans and TSN agenda media love to scrutinize every move they have made or havent made
- DDM-Coga

TSN Need material other than TO, wait until pilsbury doughboy Nonis gets canned and goes to CAL, Dregers new "insider" team.

wow.. nice reply, "bro".

I guess picks bring nothing of value in return then, right? And I guess trading one player, bring back multiple, is not a good method to use in the NHL? I think that the majority of teams will disagree with you there. But hey.. you're the expert, "Mr. GM"... I'll take your advice and knowledge wholeheartedly.


- WarriorHockey21

TSN Need material other than TO, wait until pilsbury doughboy Nonis gets canned and goes to CAL, Dregers new "insider" team.

- VanHockeyGuy

cue the kadri to flames for Bennett rumours

hindsight is a wonderful thing isnt it
- DDM-Coga

Is he seriously bringing up that stupid Yakupov/Murray topic again?

wow.. nice reply, "bro".

I guess picks bring nothing of value in return then, right? And I guess trading one player, bring back multiple, is not a good method to use in the NHL? I think that the majority of teams will disagree with you there. But hey.. you're the expert, "Mr. GM"... I'll take your advice and knowledge wholeheartedly.


- WarriorHockey21

Good.

U need the guidance.
It was a terrible terrible post.

No independent thought or understanding of the oilers situation whatsoever.

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