what's wrong with it?
- DoubleDown

Let's ignore history and all the other teams that have sucked for years and got many high picks.

But the teams that suck now must be cheating! How dare they!

Just be better!!

I'm totally down with this plan.
seriously
- Ihateallofu

just a difference of opinion. you think the Oilers should keep drafting top 5 until they accumulate enough good players to be a good team. other people think there should be more of an onus on management teams to build competently through various avenues.

Let's ignore history and all the other teams that have sucked for years and got many high picks.

But the teams that suck now must be cheating! How dare they!
- Iggysbff

it's not ignoring history. it's only natural to talk about the present. but yes, same goes for Pittsburgh back in the day.

just a difference of opinion. you think the Oilers should keep drafting top 5 until they accumulate enough good players to be a good team. other people think there should be more of an onus on management teams to build competently through various avenues.
- DoubleDown

Which avenues?

And yes, I'm sure it's convenient for you to assume all oiler fans just want high picks.
If jumbo joe will waive his ntc to come to edm to give leadership, star power and depth, i for one am all for it.
Unfortunately for Edm, he isnt

I'm sorry that u can't attract big names. I'm sorry that ed is an undesirable location for impact guys.
But I also don't think u should have access to the big name draft available players.

Ummmm

just a difference of opinion. you think the Oilers should keep drafting top 5 until they accumulate enough good players to be a good team. other people think there should be more of an onus on management teams to build competently through various avenues.
- DoubleDown

You say that like they have not tried yet no one shows all these supposed deals that Mact has turned down? They have done the best they could with those willing to sign in Edmonton and I for one am glad Mact hasn't accepted the low ball offers he's gotten for our players.

Even those that say they drafted wrond are ridiculous. Like their hindsight says if they had taken Seguin, Larsson ( and let's be clear that who the majority said the oilers should take at the time) or Murray they'd be a miraculously better team?

Get real.

Which avenues?

And yes, I'm sure it's convenient for you to assume all oiler fans just want high picks.
Of jumbo joe will waive his ntc to come to edm,,o for one am all for it.
Unfortunately for Edm, he isnt
- Ihateallofu

Electric

it's not ignoring history. it's only natural to talk about the present. but yes, same goes for Pittsburgh back in the day.
- DoubleDown

And Chicago? And Tampa? And Ottawa? And LA? And Florida, and NYI? And even Montreal back in the days when they had the draft rigged in their favor for decades?

Geez. How quickly people forget.

You say that like they have not tried yet no one shows all these supposed deals that Mact has turned down? They have done the best they could with those willing to sign in Edmonton and I for one am glad Mact hasn't accepted the low ball offers he's gotten for our players.

Even those that say they drafted wrond are ridiculous. Like their hindsight says if they had taken Seguin, Larsson ( and let's be clear that who the majority said the oilers should take at the time) or Murray they'd be a miraculously better team?

Get real.
- Iggysbff

At the time you needed a #1 center and you chose a wing so....

At the time you needed a #1 center and you chose a wing so....
- glove_was_stuck

At the time we needed every position.

At the time you needed a #1 center and you chose a wing so....
- glove_was_stuck

We needed good hockey players.
At every position.

Since the rebuild they've drafted two wingers, two centers and 1 defender (2 if u count klefbom at 19)

At the time we needed every position.
- Iggysbff

OK. So why were things ever allowed to get that bad? Your management (frank)s everything up, continues to (frank) everything up and you should be allowed to draft and ruin top talent year after year?

Seems very flawed to me.

At the time we needed every position.
- Iggysbff

Still do.

OK. So why were things ever allowed to get that bad? Your management (frank)s everything up, continues to (frank) everything up and you should be allowed to draft and ruin top talent year after year?

Seems very flawed to me.
- glove_was_stuck

Management?
MacT wasn't even in the organization until the end of the lockout year
He's never picked first

Who's ruined?

Still do.
- Feds91Stammer

You're like 0/5 on decent posts today.

Do better

Management?
MacT wasn't even in the organization until the end of the lockout year
He's never picked first
- Ihateallofu

That's the question isn't it?

That's the question isn't it?
- glove_was_stuck

Silly little quips don't count as reasonable retorts

That's the question isn't it?
- glove_was_stuck

Silly little quips don't count as reasonable retorts
- Ihateallofu

Actually they do

OK. So why were things ever allowed to get that bad? Your management (frank)s everything up, continues to (frank) everything up and you should be allowed to draft and ruin top talent year after year?

Seems very flawed to me.
- glove_was_stuck

Edmonton came very close to going under and being moved if you remember. The only thing that kept them going was the EIG and they barely kept them alive.

Most that actually have a brain and read or watched anything knew that when Katz bought the team they said they needed a complete organizational rebuild. We had no farm system. And a barely alive NHL club.

They rebuilt their entire drafting and development system and now have a large scouting department and an AHL club, an ECHL club and a WHL club all under the Oilers to develop our own prospects and picks better than before. As I've said numerous times. The oilers were basically an expansion team in 2009. How long did it take for Ottawa, San Jose Florida, Tampa etc to become relevant?

- Feds91Stammer

This guy thought it was brilliant tho....

Silly little quips don't count as reasonable retorts
- Ihateallofu

It's a legit question. They're not even asleep at the wheel, there's no pulse, and there hasn't been since at least 2006. I understand you support your team but that's the problem. You're supporting failure. Aren't you tired of it?

Still do.
- Feds91Stammer

Good one. Sure showed us...

You're like 0/5 on decent posts today.

Do better
- Ihateallofu

You don't like my ideas because they use logic which is apparently frowned upon in Edmonton.

Actually they do
- Feds91Stammer

After evicerating your attempts at mentioning perron, I suppose it makes sense that ull go with the simple quip route now

You don't like my ideas because they use logic which is apparently frowned upon in Edmonton.
- Feds91Stammer

Like ur thoughts on perron?

Trading perron was a tank move.

But he wanted out, was playing poorly. And we got a solid bottom 6'er that we've since signed,and a first.
And have more points without him