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l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
Did I say that? Try again.

Simply put saying something like this after a year of hearing about Kreider rolling through Price I would think you guys would be a little reasonable when it comes to protecting goaltenders. Honestly a double minor for a play like that IMO is warranted and given the fact you guys have lived through your goaltender getting run I would expect better from you guys.

- uf1910


Well, fine, give Prust 4 minutes plus a fighting major. It's all the acts he did on that play,

Now give the first Tampa guy in the fight a 2 minute roughing, then 5 minute fighting.
Give the 2nd guy in the fight a game suspension for being the "3rd" man in. Plus a roughing.
Give the 4th guy in a roughing.

I'm sure there should have been more penalties, but I lost track....
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
You know what else is funny? I haven't rode my bike to work in the past decade.
- WaterBoy


You went bankrupt and they confiscated your bike?
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Mar 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
Good plan. He'll lay out the options for you, detailing what it would cost you monthly to do nothing, to submit a debt proposal, or go bankrupt. You can then decide from there what makes the most sense for you now, and in the long-term.
- 3M


Thing is, my business is doing very well nowadays but the past is still haunting me and I'm fixing that very soon.
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:43 AM ET
Well, fine, give Prust 4 minutes plus a fighting major. It's all the acts he did on that play,

Now give the first Tampa guy in the fight a 2 minute roughing, then 5 minute fighting.
Give the 2nd guy in the fight a game suspension for being the "3rd" man in. Plus a roughing.
Give the 4th guy in a roughing.

I'm sure there should have been more penalties, but I lost track....

- l3ig_l2ecl


No, no. Calling a play "by the book" only applies to the guys NOT wearing a lightning bolt on their jersey.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
Just wait until you meet get kidnapped by Bingolady.
- Fredo

Think she would prefer that over a date with you..
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Mar 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
You went bankrupt and they confiscated your bike?
- 3M

3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
Thing is, my business is doing very well nowadays but the past is still haunting me and I'm fixing that very soon.
- Not_Yan


That's good to hear. Sometimes it's just stressful having that debt hanging over you. A planner, or a trustee, or whoever you're going to see, will be able to shine some light on your financial situation and formulate a plan you can work with.
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
No, no. Calling a play "by the book" only applies to the guys NOT wearing a lightning bolt on their jersey.
- 3M


And WTF was #8 doing to Prust??

Give him a 5 minute Major for sloppy BJ....

-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
Top shape! Growing fast, still has issues with the POOPOOPEEPEEOUTSIDE rule.
- Not_Yan




awww. please update the appropriate thread
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Mar 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
Think she would prefer that over a date with you..
- BingoLady

She's a vegetarian so... no Baton Rouge for her
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
Oranges and apples. There is a major difference between a player skating half the length of the ice running into a goaler skate first and a check behind the net (Prust could have tried to dodge him so the 2 minute was surely warranted, but if you think Prust put much force into that hit, you should watch the replay again).
- Popofjc


I've seen much lesser hits from behind get 2 for boarding, thus why I didn't even say a word about a 5 minute and a game type of boarding call. Prust still hit Bish in the back with more than enough time to avoid contact. Had Prust slammed through Bish honestly no way Bish would have gotten up much less stayed in the game. But again, when I see players getting 2 for boarding for lesser hits then it's hard to say this didn't deserve 2 for boarding when there was no "player turning into the hit" factor to give Prust any benefit of the doubt.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Mar 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
Think she would prefer that over a date with you..
- BingoLady

Lesser of two evil
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Mar 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
She's a vegetarian so... no Baton Rouge for her
- WaterBoy

They have salads
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
And WTF was #8 doing to Prust??

Give him a 5 minute Major for sloppy BJ....


- l3ig_l2ecl


What I don't understand is why the Montreal D didn't join in to even up the numbers?

There was going to be a penalty bringing the faceoff into their own zone anyway, so there's no incentive in that situation for the D to stay above the circles.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
Did I say that? Try again.

Simply put saying something like this after a year of hearing about Kreider rolling through Price I would think you guys would be a little reasonable when it comes to protecting goaltenders. Honestly a double minor for a play like that IMO is warranted and given the fact you guys have lived through your goaltender getting run I would expect better from you guys.

- uf1910

This wasn't the same type of play as the Kreider play. Kreider has a history of barreling through goalies. The situations are not the same.
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
And WTF was #8 doing to Prust??

Give him a 5 minute Major for sloppy BJ....


- l3ig_l2ecl


...5 minute major and a $40 tip.
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
Well, fine, give Prust 4 minutes plus a fighting major. It's all the acts he did on that play,

Now give the first Tampa guy in the fight a 2 minute roughing, then 5 minute fighting.
Give the 2nd guy in the fight a game suspension for being the "3rd" man in. Plus a roughing.
Give the 4th guy in a roughing.

I'm sure there should have been more penalties, but I lost track....

- l3ig_l2ecl


Go read the first few pages on the board and see more than a few posts about our guys not even giving Prust as much of a facewash in that "scrum". Hard to give Barberio (the first guy in the scrum) anything other than a butt warmer since he quickly found himself sitting on the ice
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:49 AM ET
What I don't understand is why the Montreal D didn't join in to even up the numbers?

There was going to be a penalty bringing the faceoff into their own zone anyway, so there's no incentive in that situation for the D to stay above the circles.

- 3M


Refs called the penalty after the scrum...

Arm didn't go up...
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
This wasn't the same type of play as the Kreider play. Kreider has a history of barreling through goalies. The situations are not the same.
- hscesq


Not saying they are the same but the idea of protecting a goaltender is.
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
I've seen much lesser hits from behind get 2 for boarding, thus why I didn't even say a word about a 5 minute and a game type of boarding call. Prust still hit Bish in the back with more than enough time to avoid contact. Had Prust slammed through Bish honestly no way Bish would have gotten up much less stayed in the game. But again, when I see players getting 2 for boarding for lesser hits then it's hard to say this didn't deserve 2 for boarding when there was no "player turning into the hit" factor to give Prust any benefit of the doubt.
- uf1910


Ah, I see. So it's all anecdotal evidence that guides your interpretation of the rules? Because I've seen much WORSE hits result in no call at all. Thus, Bishop should have been given 2 for embellishing, fined $2000 because he's an asshat, thrown out of the game for his spearing attempt with this goal stick after he rolled over, each of the 3 Tampa players given 2 for roughing, and one also given a game misconduct for being the 3rd man into a fight.

Because, you know, I've seen stuff like that happen before.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Mar 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
That's good to hear. Sometimes it's just stressful having that debt hanging over you. A planner, or a trustee, or whoever you're going to see, will be able to shine some light on your financial situation and formulate a plan you can work with.
- 3M


Thank you sir.
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
Not saying they are the same but the idea of protecting a goaltender is.
- uf1910


It's funny seeing the reaction of the Ref. He see's Prust hitting Bishop. Arm doesn't go up. He's probably wondering WTF Bishop was doing behind his net.
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
This wasn't the same type of play as the Kreider play. Kreider has a history of barreling through goalies. The situations are not the same.
- hscesq


5 times he's done it. FIVE!

That's not just a history, that's the very fibre of his being at this point.
Popofjc
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Quebec City, QC
Joined: 02.16.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:54 AM ET
I've seen much lesser hits from behind get 2 for boarding, thus why I didn't even say a word about a 5 minute and a game type of boarding call. Prust still hit Bish in the back with more than enough time to avoid contact. Had Prust slammed through Bish honestly no way Bish would have gotten up much less stayed in the game. But again, when I see players getting 2 for boarding for lesser hits then it's hard to say this didn't deserve 2 for boarding when there was no "player turning into the hit" factor to give Prust any benefit of the doubt.
- uf1910


Well if the Ref gave him 2 minutes for boarding instead of 2 minutes for goaltender interference, would you be okay with that ?

If a player accidentally clip a goaltender with a high stick, should he get 2 for goaltender interference AND 2 for high-sticking ? I'm not sure why do you think everything should be doubled ...
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 17 @ 11:54 AM ET
Why are bolts fan so mad after winning a game?

Still butthurt from the sweep of last spring?
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