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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Mar 17 @ 9:58 AM ET
Does Garth use two names on here? Other teams defintiely are tanking..but Buffalo is just accused of it hahahahaha
- Popcorn Kid


links with the word tank and any other team this season would be greatly appreciated
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 9:58 AM ET
my argument.....at least if that's what he was responding to......was that they traded away good goalies (relatively speaking), and brought in poop goalies. there was absolutely no attempt to get anyone who could stop the puck. they traded for, statistically speaking, two of the absolute worst goalies in the entire league.

that SCREAMS "we want to lose games"

i'm not sure why some people get defensive when others say the sabres are tanking. it's a brilliant move IMO, if you time it right.

the pens have done it twice, and have 3 cups to show for it.

- sensarmy_11


Ok let's clear this up. I trade you a backup caliber goalie, UFA. I want a pick and a goalie back. What do you send me.
SayBeers
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 01.16.2015

Mar 17 @ 9:58 AM ET
really? from who.

i think most teams would do exactly what the sabres are doing, if they were in teh same position.

i sure as hell hope teh sens would.

- sensarmy_11

This is apparently your first visit to a sabres blog on this site in 2014-15.
jackoc150
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.20.2013

Mar 17 @ 9:59 AM ET
Mike Harrington is a complete joke. The only thing disgraceful is that he's part of the media here in Buffalo.
- HonkFortheGoose


100% agreed, making the city you're from and the team you write for look bad is pretty embarrassing
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Mar 17 @ 9:59 AM ET
my argument.....at least if that's what he was responding to......was that they traded away good goalies (relatively speaking), and brought in poop goalies. there was absolutely no attempt to get anyone who could stop the puck. they traded for, statistically speaking, two of the absolute worst goalies in the entire league.

that SCREAMS "we want to lose games"

i'm not sure why some people get defensive when others say the sabres are tanking. it's a brilliant move IMO, if you time it right.

the pens have done it twice, and have 3 cups to show for it.

- sensarmy_11


lindback has a .924 sv% during his short time with buffalo
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 17 @ 10:00 AM ET
Ok let's clear this up. I trade you a backup caliber goalie, UFA. I want a pick and a goalie back. What do you send me.
- TheSabresTaco

Some people are giving Enroth too much credit.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 10:00 AM ET
Yes, it does. Ultimately, I wouldn't begrudge the league if they changed things around to prevent another team from doing what the Sabres did. The Sabres have figured out that this system rewards failure. Just make sure the Sabres get McDavid or Eichel first.
- buffalofan19


If you think the Sabres are doing what the (frank)ing Penguins did over ten years ago, we're (frank)ing saints.

We're doing nothing wrong, and Dave Hodge and Mike Harrington can go (frank) eachother on Mars.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Mar 17 @ 10:00 AM ET
We will see how much flack the Leafs get the next 2 seasons. They are on their way via the same road the Sabres went. (well at least they will try)
- cabin


Arizona will be in year two of their rebuild with auston Matthews up top...Edmonton year-eight
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 10:01 AM ET
Some people are giving Enroth too much credit.
- cabin


This kid's argument is getting whittled down to "tanking=trading your backup caliber UFA goalies"
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 17 @ 10:02 AM ET
Arizona will be in year two with auston Matthews up top...Edmonton year-eight
- Michael Pachla

Yep. And so it seems we are on the right track , like the Oil should have been years ago. Other fans are Jelly.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 17 @ 10:02 AM ET
Ok let's clear this up. I trade you a backup caliber goalie, UFA. I want a pick and a goalie back. What do you send me.
- TheSabresTaco

This assumes that the Islanders were the only team willing to give up that price, which is doubtful. They targeted the Islanders because they had that poop goaltender. There's no doubt in my mind.
jackoc150
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.20.2013

Mar 17 @ 10:02 AM ET
If you think the Sabres are doing what the (frank)ing Penguins did over ten years ago, we're (frank)ing saints.

We're doing nothing wrong, and Dave Hodge and Mike Harrington can go (frank) eachother on Mars.

- TheSabresTaco


If there weren't websites like this and social media, no one would be all over Buffalo for tanking, people read something and think "Hey, yeah! screw Buffalo, they're a disgrace cause this guy says so"
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 17 @ 10:03 AM ET
This kid's argument is getting whittled down to "tanking=trading your backup caliber UFA goalies"
- TheSabresTaco

I giggled when they say we traded away our starting goalie (s).
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 17 @ 10:04 AM ET
lindback has a .924 sv% during his short time with buffalo
- Michael Pachla


i'm pretty sure they weren't expecting that. when they traded for him, he was pretty much teh worst goalie in the league.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 17 @ 10:05 AM ET
i'm pretty sure they weren't expecting that. when they traded for him, he was pretty much teh worst goalie in the league.
- sensarmy_11

Check the Sabres goalie stats. You might change your mind.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Mar 17 @ 10:05 AM ET
Some people are giving Enroth too much credit.
- cabin


It's interesting to me that Enroth played well here and went to Dallas and looks very much sub par. On the other hand, Lindback looked very sub par in Dallas, comes here and has a .924 sv %. What seems to be the common denominator here?
Popcorn Kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.21.2008

Mar 17 @ 10:06 AM ET
what is the big deal of being accused of tanking though? Who cares.. I am jealous of whatever you call it Buffalo is doing. Great job by the GM. Call it what you want but it will end up being very affective.... No teams are throwing games..
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Mar 17 @ 10:06 AM ET
i'm pretty sure they weren't expecting that. when they traded for him, he was pretty much teh worst goalie in the league.
- sensarmy_11


agreed...but for the sake of argument, why is he playing better for a last place team while the goalie the sabres shipped to dallas is playing much worse?
Dannymik
Buffalo Sabres
Location: West Seneca, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 17 @ 10:07 AM ET
Alrite, this is as much as you're going to get.

Evander Kane was traded for because his value was less while he was injured. He's 23 and has a very long career ahead of him. We were and are going no where this year, so how does this move NOT make sense? "Tanking" or not, this is a brilliant move.

Trading Stewart, Stafford, Neuvirth, Enroth, Mitchell...all UFAs with value. Guys who could potentially walk at the end of the year. So let's say the Sabres are..umm..going (frank)ing no where this year. Why lose them for absolutely nothing when you can get assets for them? Again, smart move by Murray.

Trading Flynn? Well, apparently he has little to do with the future's success. Therefore, he was given away for an asset.

We've completely gutted this team spare a few undesirable free agents. All for the future. We've done nothing wrong, this team was not going to walk into free agency and sign a bunch of Malkins because ffs they weren't available. You don't build a team through FA anymore. It's all about drafting and smart trading. Murray, in all honesty, was not trying to win a cup this year. Because he knew he couldn't. This team lacks a (frank)load of talent. So what do you do? You build through the draft. With picks. That you pick up by trading expiring contracts. Murray is not tanking, the Sabres are not tanking, the fans simply want to tank to win the ultimate prize.

That's all you get.

- TheSabresTaco


Perfect!!

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Mar 17 @ 10:07 AM ET
what is the big deal of being accused of tanking though? Who cares.. I am jealous of whatever you call it Buffalo is doing. Great job by the GM. Call it what you want but it will end up being very affective.... No teams are throwing games..
- Popcorn Kid


well said, kid...the leafs will be there the next two seasons
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Mar 17 @ 10:09 AM ET
what is the big deal of being accused of tanking though? Who cares.. I am jealous of whatever you call it Buffalo is doing. Great job by the GM. Call it what you want but it will end up being very affective.... No teams are throwing games..
- Popcorn Kid


Tank on.


That's all I have to say.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 17 @ 10:10 AM ET
Check the Sabres goalie stats. You might change your mind.
- cabin


when the sabres acquired lindback he was 2-8, with a 0.875 sv% and a GAA just under 4.

they gave up enroth, who had 7 times more wins, a GAA 0.5 lower, and a sv% over .900

that's a significant statistical downgrade.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 17 @ 10:10 AM ET
what is the big deal of being accused of tanking though? Who cares.. I am jealous of whatever you call it Buffalo is doing. Great job by the GM. Call it what you want but it will end up being very affective.... No teams are throwing games..
- Popcorn Kid

You guys seem to be on your way to a total rebuild. Good luck.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 17 @ 10:11 AM ET
agreed...but for the sake of argument, why is he playing better for a last place team while the goalie the sabres shipped to dallas is playing much worse?
- Michael Pachla


because dallas has the worst defensive system in the NHL, which is masked by the fact that they score a million goals per game.

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Mar 17 @ 10:12 AM ET
because dallas has the worst defensive system in the NHL, which is masked by the fact that they score a million goals per game.
- sensarmy_11

no goalies have faced more shots, nor have they faced more quality shots than the buffalo sabres goalies
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