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CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Mar 12 @ 4:27 PM ET
Because Myers has 9 in 11 for the Jets?
- dadeadhead

Voldemort.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 12 @ 4:28 PM ET
He's been in a shutdown role.

I don't know, I like him. He's not Marc-Andre Bergeron with the points, and he's made a few mistakes, but he seems like a good top-4 guy going forward.

- CaptainRivet



A Mike Ramsay/Ken Morrow type guy.

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 12 @ 4:28 PM ET
Voldemort.
- CaptainRivet



I don't believe is superstition.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:29 PM ET
He's been in a shutdown role.

I don't know, I like him. He's not Marc-Andre Bergeron with the points, and he's made a few mistakes, but he seems like a good top-4 guy going forward.

- CaptainRivet



It's probably just a personal dislike to either the style of play or something else but i really don't like him at all, hopefully he'll grow on me. Or get traded.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 12 @ 4:30 PM ET
It's probably just a personal dislike to either the style of play or something else but i really don't like him at all, hopefully he'll grow on me. Or get traded.
- Sabresfan-365



He's playing the same type of game Myers was.

His style is more suited for it though.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Mar 12 @ 4:32 PM ET
He's playing the same type of game Myers was.

His style is more suited for it though.

- dadeadhead

side note: sign Devan Dubnyk.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 12 @ 4:33 PM ET
side note: sign Devan Dubnyk.
- CaptainRivet



Does Minnesota let him leave?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:33 PM ET
He's playing the same type of game Myers was.

His style is more suited for it though.

- dadeadhead


I was no fan of the the role that nolan and the fans wanted myers to play. Im sorry but to me he's just a better mike weber.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:33 PM ET
Does Minnesota let him leave?
- buffalofan19



Can Minnesota afford to keep him? (honest question)
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:34 PM ET
Can Minnesota afford to keep him? (honest question)
- Sabresfan-365


I don't think so. So yes sign him
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Mar 12 @ 4:35 PM ET
Does Minnesota let him leave?
- buffalofan19

$$$ could lure him away. I watched him play a few games in a Coyotes uni and was impressed, then his numbers in Minnesota are just plain ridiculous. Hope it's not a fluke.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Mar 12 @ 4:51 PM ET
Did some backreading.

In 12 games, on this team, Bogosian has 4 points.

How is that offensively inept?

- CaptainRivet


Its because he's shorter than Meyers.
Bustgosian.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 12 @ 4:53 PM ET
There's a 4-way tie for the top spot in the league right now.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 12 @ 4:57 PM ET
There's a 4-way tie for the top spot in the league right now.
- buffalofan19

And Sabres have 1/2 the points of them.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 5:07 PM ET
There's a 4-way tie for the top spot in the league right now.
- buffalofan19


What's funny is I couldn't care less about the top of the league right now and that's pretty sad
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Mar 12 @ 5:11 PM ET
So the bills got played by clay it looks like

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 12 @ 5:12 PM ET
I was no fan of the the role that nolan and the fans wanted myers to play. Im sorry but to me he's just a better mike weber.
- Sabresfan-365

This.

Not to mention the penalties game in and game out. We downgraded and it's obvious
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 12 @ 5:14 PM ET
Neither of those 3 are gonna end up being a center on any of our top3 lines... So if they wanna play in our top9, they are gonna have to play on the wing.

At some point, I think Hodgson & Grigorenko will get traded

Larsson could for in as a 3rd line winger, but with all the talent we have coming I don't really see us as having a traditional 4th line when we are competing
We could easily see something like
Deslauriers-Larsson-Bailey
That's a lot of talent, tht can play physical, and skate & score

There's gonna be A LOT of competition to get into our top9 in the next couple years
McDavid/Eichel, Reinhart, Girgensons are the 3 centers
Kane, Ennis & Moulson are wingers that seem locked in

So that leaves 3 open spots
Grigorenko, Larsson, Hodgson, Carrier, Baptiste, Bailey, Fasching, Compher, Hurley, Possler, Olofsson, Karabacek...
And I'm probably forgetting a guy or two
We got some great forward depth coming

And that's if we don't bring anyone else in at all

- jdfitz77


If the top pick this year, Reinhart, and Girgensons are your top 3 centers (I still think Girgensons would be optimal as a winger), then Larsson would be very effective as a 4th line C assuming the team roles 4 lines which is what they would need to do win and not run down any of their players.

If you believe Murray, Foligno is the 3rd LW, and with that there are only two spots open.

Ennis is better suited to a secondary role as a RW if you expect to be very good and not just good.

That means 2 of the following will be in the top 9, with likely one of them being on the 1st line. Grigorenko, Hodgson, Carrier, Baptiste, Bailey, Fasching, Compher, Hurley, Possler, Olofsson, Karabacek.

I don't know about you or anyone else, but I am not sold on that.

Could one of them turn into a top line talent? Sure. Do you absolutely need a top line RW assuming both E. Kane and the top pick this year are as good as they can be? No.

It's still dicey though.

What they do with Hodgson is going to have a ripple effect on the rest of their plans. If you can turn him, Grigorenko, and a high pick, along with possibly something else, into something of consequence on RW, then you are in business.

On D, I'd sign at least one of Martin or Green, and really, I'd sign both (if they would take a high dollar, 3 year deal), while trying to get rid of Gorges and Weber, so the top 7 D looks like the following next year.

Martin - Bogosian
Pysyk - Green
Ristolainen - Zadorov/McCabe
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 5:14 PM ET
So the bills got played by clay it looks like
- gerbe75pts


Considering the Bills haven't made him an offer how could he have played the Bills?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 12 @ 5:15 PM ET
$$$ could lure him away. I watched him play a few games in a Coyotes uni and was impressed, then his numbers in Minnesota are just plain ridiculous. Hope it's not a fluke.
- CaptainRivet


He's always been a good goalie.

Edmonton ran him outta town.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 12 @ 5:16 PM ET
This.

Not to mention the penalties game in and game out. We downgraded and it's obvious

- sbroads24


Murray wanted Kane so badly that it looks like he was willing to almost put anything in the trade.

That said, you can't win every deal and win every signing.

You don't get what you want every single time. I know some think that is not the case, but it is reality.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 5:17 PM ET
Murray wanted Kane so badly that it looks like he was willing to almost put anything in the trade.

That said, you can't win every deal and win every signing.

You don't get what you want every single time. I know some think that is not the case, but it is reality.

- kingcong39


If Kane scored 30 a year and Bogosian ends up being the physical stay at home D then it doesn't matter what Myers does.

To say we downgraded in this trade if it was Myers for Bogosian straight up sbroads you are correct. But that wasn't the trade. If Kane is a 30 goal scorer anything good Bogosian does is icing on the cake.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 12 @ 5:26 PM ET
If Kane scored 30 a year and Bogosian ends up being the physical stay at home D then it doesn't matter what Myers does.

To say we downgraded in this trade if it was Myers for Bogosian straight up sbroads you are correct. But that wasn't the trade. If Kane is a 30 goal scorer anything good Bogosian does is icing on the cake.

- Stripes77



Well said
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 12 @ 5:45 PM ET
Do you think we'll see a Jack Eichel celebration video if someone else wins the lottery?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 5:51 PM ET
We'll see a Jack Eichel celebration video when someone else wins the lottery!!
- Buffalo-Sabres


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