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SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 11 @ 6:25 PM ET
It makes perfect sense. You believe in a whole lot of unrealistic bullpoop. Whether or not it was clever is open to interpretation.
- Doc_Sarcasm

I listed what was wrong with the Maple Leafs and what has been wrong with them. You responded with baby talk.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 11 @ 6:26 PM ET
And I responded accordingly to your response by you bringing up everyone here not being in agreement with me.
- SuperSchennBros

I don't see the need to continue this nonsense. You basically stated that I wasn't Hextall so it doesn't matter what I think. "Shut it down boys" was in reference to the fact that none of us are in fact one Ron Hextall and therefore our opinions, whatever they may be don't mean poop to you.

Just move on. This is embarrassing for both of us.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 11 @ 6:27 PM ET
If there was an another option, I'd name it. People for the moment are bashing Holmgren and calling Hextall the rookie GM a whole different animal but if I'm Hextall, I don't sit on my hands either. Regardless of the shorten contract, I still view Hartnell for Umberger a bad move.
- SuperSchennBros

There may be other options to upgrade the D, although not likely any #1 guys available.

I am with you, wanting to see them upgrade the D badly.
Hopefully Hexy makes some moves this summer.
I'm all for rebuilding through the draft, but I also watch every game, and another season like this will be dreadful.

The idea of

Streit/Schultz
Amac/Luke (or Grossmann)
MDZ/Gudas

as the starting six next year terrifies me.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 11 @ 6:29 PM ET
The Flyers as an organization, have not stopped trying to make the playoffs. Right or wrong.
- MJL


How do you know? And I'm fairly certain they know the playoffs are no longer an option and the draft is the next significant event on the calendar.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 11 @ 6:29 PM ET
Interesting case with Martel. Wonder if he can be our Martin St.Louis

Edit: i know it's late. Just got a chance to read an article on him

- Streit2ThePoint


Start an argument or GTFO!!!
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Mar 11 @ 6:30 PM ET
I listed what was wrong with the Maple Leafs and what has been wrong with them. You responded with baby talk.
- SuperSchennBros



You're such an earnest young man. I think I'm going to call you Ernest from here on out.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 11 @ 6:31 PM ET
Start an argument or GTFO!!!
- PhillySportsGuy


You shut your dirty SportsGuy mouth!

Take that.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 11 @ 6:32 PM ET
I don't see the need to continue this nonsense. You basically stated that I wasn't Hextall so it doesn't matter what I think. "Shut it down boys" was in reference to the fact that none of us are in fact one Ron Hextall and therefore our opinions, whatever they may be don't mean poop to you.

Just move on. This is embarrassing for both of us.

- hereticpride


Wow...

It's late afternoon and you implied that I woke up this morning in a bad mood. What you said was stupid. You also said "No Phaneuf for me" as if it matters. You responded to me. If you don't wanna talk me, don't. Telling me to shut it down and calling me a boy, that's just another stupid comment on your part. I don't have to shut anything down. Learn to use your words properly.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 11 @ 6:33 PM ET
I don't see the need to continue this nonsense. You basically stated that I wasn't Hextall so it doesn't matter what I think. "Shut it down boys" was in reference to the fact that none of us are in fact one Ron Hextall and therefore our opinions, whatever they may be don't mean poop to you.

Just move on. This is embarrassing for both of us.

- hereticpride


This kid is embarrassed for you...



SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 11 @ 6:35 PM ET
There may be other options to upgrade the D, although not likely any #1 guys available.

I am with you, wanting to see them upgrade the D badly.
Hopefully Hexy makes some moves this summer.
I'm all for rebuilding through the draft, but I also watch every game, and another season like this will be dreadful.

The idea of

Streit/Schultz
Amac/Luke (or Grossmann)
MDZ/Gudas

as the starting six next year terrifies me.

- Marc D

Watching this season from start to finish, I don't even have words for it. You have to make changes this summer if you expect to be competitive next season. If next season is just a throw away just because of what could be in the future, I'm a little ashamed to be a Flyers fan right now but I don't expect this to be the case.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 11 @ 6:37 PM ET
You're such an earnest young man. I think I'm going to call you Ernest from here on out.
- Doc_Sarcasm

You don't know anything about me and I think it starts with my age, judging by this comment. I've stated fact, you've come up with nothing. In fact, you tried to be funny and it's worked against you because it didn't make any sense.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 11 @ 6:41 PM ET
Wanting this season from start to finish, I don't even have words for it. You have to make changes this summer if you expect to me competitive next season. If next season is just a throw away just because of what could be in the future, I'm a little ashamed to be a Flyers fan right now but I don't expect this to be the case.
- SuperSchennBros

I give Hexy the benefit on why he is being patient.
He probably wants to make some moves, but maybe there wasn't good value there.

He did get back value with Coburn and Kimmo.
He made some good pick ups particularly Del Zotto.

I will be upset if the D I posted above is the starting 6 next year.

I think he has to upgrade at least one spot there.

Look at Streit/Schultz... both decent defenseman and Streit is really good on the PP.
At even strength it would be nice if that was their third pair, but they are the de facto top pair for the Flyers. It's just not good enough.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 11 @ 6:46 PM ET
I give Hexy the benefit on why he is being patient.
He probably wants to make some moves, but maybe there wasn't good value there.

He did get back value with Coburn and Kimmo.
He made some good pick ups particularly Del Zotto.

I will be upset if the D I posted above is the starting 6 next year.

I think he has to upgrade at least one spot there.

Look at Streit/Schultz... both decent defenseman and Streit is really good on the PP.
At even strength it would be nice if that was their third pair, but they are the de facto top pair for the Flyers. It's just not good enough.

- Marc D


I couldn't agree more and I'm glad you fought through the spelling and grammar mistakes I made in my original post and still responded.

Nick Schultz is 32 and signing here expecting to play a 7th defenseman role. He's played well enough to remain in the line up but he's only had a handful of seasons where he's been this good. I wouldn't have went out of my way to bring him back because I feel it's unlikely he can do it again.

I commented last night during the game that it made me sad that Schultz and Streit are our top pair. You've nailed it. We've gotta upgrade pretty bad and this is a pretty good example as to why.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 11 @ 6:46 PM ET
Wow...

It's late afternoon and you implied that I woke up this morning in a bad mood. What you said was stupid. You also said "No Phaneuf for me" as if it matters. You responded to me. If you don't wanna talk me, don't. Telling me to shut it down and calling me a boy, that's just another stupid comment on your part. I don't have to shut anything down. Learn to use your words properly.

- SuperSchennBros

Dude...

First of all I did not call you boy. Holy hell, was that taken out of context. Second of all... You know what? Neveremind. I see no point in this.

Just move on. I'm out for the night before I get myself banned. Share your opinions loudly boys err gentleman.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 11 @ 6:47 PM ET
But you're outta control.
- wolfhounds

control is for losers [img][/img]
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 11 @ 6:48 PM ET
I don't even know what you just said.
- SuperSchennBros

i know
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 11 @ 6:49 PM ET
as the starting six next year terrifies me.
- Marc D


The offense should terrify you more.. On the defensive front we have lots of prospects on the horizon.

Giroux, Simmonds and Voracek are the only legit offensive players on the team right now.

We have seen what happens when they get shutdown or go cold. Honestly if the Flyers had any offensive depth at all this season they are probably much closer or in the playoffs.

To me, offense needs ot be their priority this draft or off season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 11 @ 6:51 PM ET
How do you know? And I'm fairly certain they know the playoffs are no longer an option and the draft is the next significant event on the calendar.
- wolfhounds



Sam Carchidi
@BroadStBull
Asked about bringing up kids, Hexy says Flyers still trying to make playoffs.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 11 @ 6:53 PM ET
so is paul (frank)ing newman.
- hammarby31

well in my opinion he's immortal!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 11 @ 6:53 PM ET
I couldn't agree more and I'm glad you fought through the spelling and grammar mistakes I made in my original post and still responded.

Nick Schultz is 32 and signing here expecting to play a 7th defenseman role. He's played well enough to remain in the line up but he's only had a handful of seasons where he's been this good. I wouldn't have went out of my way to bring him back because I feel it's unlikely he can do it again.

I commented last night during the game that it made me sad that Schultz and Streit are our top pair. You've nailed it. We've gotta upgrade pretty bad and this is a pretty good example as to why.

- SuperSchennBros

regarding the Schultz deal I am kind of meh about it

I believe it is only for 2 more years, and he has been pretty dependable this year

I guess he could decline but it was short and not too expensive, so OK by me

About a week ago I speculated if they would include a draft pick to try and entice a team to trade for Amac and then use the cap space to upgrade in UFA. It was nearly unanimously panned as a bad idea by the group here. I like Amac (likely more then most on here) but he gets paid a lot for his role on the team. Just thinking about other ideas to upgrade the D without waiting for Sanheim/Morin and the rest.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 11 @ 6:54 PM ET
Sam Carchidi
@BroadStBull
Asked about bringing up kids, Hexy says Flyers still trying to make playoffs.

- MJL

what he should really do, is bring them up, then say that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 11 @ 6:54 PM ET
The offense should terrify you more.. On the defensive front we have lots of prospects on the horizon.

Giroux, Simmonds and Voracek are the only legit offensive players on the team right now.

We have seen what happens when they get shutdown or go cold. Honestly if the Flyers had any offensive depth at all this season they are probably much closer or in the playoffs.

To me, offense needs ot be their priority this draft or off season.

- opeth_pa


Is there any standard that you go by, to say that a player is a legit offensive player or not? Just curious.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 11 @ 6:55 PM ET
Watching this season from start to finish, I don't even have words for it. You have to make changes this summer if you expect to be competitive next season. If next season is just a throw away just because of what could be in the future, I'm a little ashamed to be a Flyers fan right now but I don't expect this to be the case.
- SuperSchennBros


We all want and expect changes. I'd even take Phaneuf in the right deal...we can't give up too much for him and the Leafs definitely need to eat some salary. We have differing opinions on the gap between the Leafs and the Flyers - this season, neither team is very good and they have a lot in common - and so I question the impact Dion would have on the Flyers. I just don't see him on par with Chara, Weber, Doughty, etc.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 11 @ 6:56 PM ET
Dude...

First of all I did not call you boy. Holy hell, was that taken out of context. Second of all... You know what? Neveremind. I see no point in this.

Just move on. I'm out for the night before I get myself banned. Share your opinions loudly boys err gentleman.

- hereticpride

im definitely a child in a man's body i'll never deny this
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 11 @ 6:56 PM ET
I went back and read Bill's blog on Sanheim from before the draft and thought this comment deserved a big

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=60428

I would not be disappointed in the slightest if the Flyers drafted a 6'4" two-way, fleet-footed defenseman with the 17th pick. Sanheim would be a good pick up. My guess is none of the commenters here have actually seen him play (or the player they have their heart set on). So all of our ideas of whether he is worth a 17th pick is based on our faith in the scouting agencies lists. I am sure I will like and trust whoever Hexy picks.
- redcoat75
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