One goal is to lofty of an expectation?
Also one of your other posts said you thought the two teams were pretty even speed wise. The Rangers were the much faster/engaged team then the Hawks. One reason, And one reason only that we took them to OT. And his Name is Crawford.
If you were encouraged by that effort/ display against the Rangers. Then i think you will really enjoy next year!
I'm not saying that they cant get it together for the playoffs, But they are not engaged(is the best word i can come up with) right now.
- camfor

Did u sleep through the entire 2nd period and parts of the 3rd? I mean, seriously, what the hell were u watching? Only the 1st period?

The NYR were "much" faster.....are u kidding me? Neither team was "much" more anything than they other.... Or saying something like, "Crawford was the only reason we stayed in the game/lasted till OT"....those are perfect examples overstating and overreacting, twisting things to make them seem worse than what actually took place. So sick of posters that do this. Talbot made several key stops for them as well, especially in the 2nd and 3rd.

Do u not respect the fact that the NYR are as good as they are, and that getting shut out by them 1-0 in Overtime in a tightly contested tight checking neutral zone clogging battle isn't a bad thing? Again, look at the list of restrictions/missing players the Hawks had....how many times can u ignore this....

I agree with u that they should become more engaged in terms of net crashing and looking for dirty goals, using toughness as oppose to finesse.....but other than that NO.

i guess that would depend on how many games he plays at rcf and how he looks...tough injury to return from and miss 4 months of action...

they have 5 games bewteen 3/14 - 22 ...gotta think they limit him during that week...maybe he plays in 3 or 4 of the 5 with increasing TOI...

if all goes well is i suspect the earliest you see him up here is the end of march
- bogiedoc

Chris Block suggested TVR conditioning stint with Rockford until early April, and if all goes well skating with the Hawks in the final 5-6 games. Whether that prepares him for the playoffs obviously remains a question mark.

Personally, I hope he's not rushed back and is ready to play in the fall.

Interesting...

Another Justin Schultz / Kevin Hayes situation, this time with the Blue Jackets.

UM defenseman and leading scorer Mike Reilly MAY test free agency this summer.

He was drafted in 2011 in the 4th round. Played one year of junior hockey, then 3 years at UM.

Clock is ticking.

TVR played what 20 games in NHL in light minutes, and now he is our guy? The saviour?

And Oduya regaining form of a few years ago? NO chance. Oduya is a bottom pair d man at this point of his career. Hawk fans living life looking back, against the sage advice of Boston, just will never understand aging.

Hawks love to raid the museum to pick up players and likely will net nothing.

TVR played what 20 games in NHL in light minutes, and now he is our guy? The saviour?

And Oduya regaining form of a few years ago? NO chance. Oduya is a bottom pair d man at this point of his career. Hawk fans living life looking back, against the sage advice of Boston, just will never understand aging.

Hawks love to raid the museum to pick up players and likely will net nothing.
- TrueGrit

Not a savior by any means but would u not agree he's certainly an upgrade over Rundblad? I mean, is that not reasonable?

TVR played what 20 games in NHL in light minutes, and now he is our guy? The saviour?

And Oduya regaining form of a few years ago? NO chance. Oduya is a bottom pair d man at this point of his career. Hawk fans living life looking back, against the sage advice of Boston, just will never understand aging.

Hawks love to raid the museum to pick up players and likely will net nothing.
- TrueGrit

Basically agree with you TG, but am hopeful for the best. I am optimistic about TVR's future, but more concerned with his health going forward into next year...then his continued development.

If TVR returns this year, and performs well...terrific, but no reason to rush him back, caution makes more sense IMO.

TVR played what 20 games in NHL in light minutes, and now he is our guy? The saviour?

And Oduya regaining form of a few years ago? NO chance. Oduya is a bottom pair d man at this point of his career. Hawk fans living life looking back, against the sage advice of Boston, just will never understand aging.

Hawks love to raid the museum to pick up players and likely will net nothing.
- TrueGrit

TVR is just supposed to be better than Rundblad or Rozsival. I have no idea how he performs coming off that injury. He's young enough to have a quicker recovery time, at least.

Oduya, same thing. Just needs to be better than Rundblad and Rozsival. It will be interesting to see what happens with him this summer.

dupe

dupe
- 333inthe3rd

This.

Yep - I show 53 for 67 = 79.1% for the 29 games since 1/1/15 - not stellar.
- StLBravesFan

they were at about 91% coming into the year and such a pace was not sustainable.

but its another metric in search of the answer what is going with this team that every phase of the game except goal tending has regressed since 1/1....

Lurking here is so unfulfilling

Lurking here is so unfulfilling
- eagle50

Just read my posts, absorb them....let them sink in.....and slowly just start drowning out everyone else in wake of my neverending wisdom.

Not Russian. From Belarus. Two different countries.
- BreakoutHockey

Thanks. Thought Gotovets was Russian.... Liked Belarus... Spent a few weeks in Hrodna and Minsk in fact in the 90s. Caught some grayling on the Merkys river. Pretty exciting days... Lukashenka and Putin scrambled that egg. A shame.

Unfortunately their PK has been awful lately too. I think they're 23rd or something since Jan 1. Not sure how they're still as high as they are in the rankings.
- TyCamScore

Not sure why it took so long for TT to get some PP time. I know Q considers it a privilege but when it is so bad you should give new looks a shot. It really amazes me the problems with the PP seemed to have remained the same through how many assistants now? 3-4?

The PK since the 1st should really concern them. I think Ben Smith's lack of offense and that drop led to his departure.

TVR played what 20 games in NHL in light minutes, and now he is our guy? The saviour?

And Oduya regaining form of a few years ago? NO chance. Oduya is a bottom pair d man at this point of his career. Hawk fans living life looking back, against the sage advice of Boston, just will never understand aging.

Hawks love to raid the museum to pick up players and likely will net nothing.
- TrueGrit

I believe Doug Weight was available at the deadline, could have replaced Richards.

Don't agree with you that often, but a rebuild is nearer than farther. And plenty of it is self inflicted.

Lurking here is so unfulfilling
- eagle50

Not sure what you're looking for on an off day...

Did u sleep through the entire 2nd period and parts of the 3rd? I mean, seriously, what the hell were u watching? Only the 1st period?

The NYR were "much" faster.....are u kidding me? Neither team was "much" more anything than they other.... Or saying something like, "Crawford was the only reason we stayed in the game/lasted till OT"....those are perfect examples overstating and overreacting, twisting things to make them seem worse than what actually took place. So sick of posters that do this. Talbot made several key stops for them as well, especially in the 2nd and 3rd.

Do u not respect the fact that the NYR are as good as they are, and that getting shut out by them 1-0 in Overtime in a tightly contested tight checking neutral zone clogging battle isn't a bad thing? Again, look at the list of restrictions/missing players the Hawks had....how many times can u ignore this....

I agree with u that they should become more engaged in terms of net crashing and looking for dirty goals, using toughness as oppose to finesse.....but other than that NO.
- SimpleJack

Could you be any more condescending?
I watched the game
You know what i'm sick of? Posters that sugar coat this team
We disagree on how the game was played. No need to be a simple jack about it.
And yes the Rangers were the faster team. The more engaged team. And Yes Crawford made much more difficult saves then Talbot, And was the reason that we made it to OT.
The Rangers are a very good team. We agree on that.
What is your excuse for the other 6 times this year that the Hawks have been shut out with all your missing players in the line up?
Classic denial that something is wrong with this team.
And no i am not a negative person about this team. I have defended them plenty of times. And believe they could get it together. They didn't for the Rangers however!

Could you be any more condescending?
I watched the game
You know what i'm sick of? Posters that sugar coat this team
We disagree on how the game was played. No need to be a simple jack about it.
And yes the Rangers were the faster team. The more engaged team. And Yes Crawford made much more difficult saves then Talbot, And was the reason that we made it to OT.
The Rangers are a very good team. We agree on that.
What is your excuse for the other 6 times this year that the Hawks have been shut out with all your missing players in the line up?
Classic denial that something is wrong with this team.
And no i am not a negative person about this team. I have defended them plenty of times. And believe they could get it together. They didn't for the Rangers however!
- camfor

Agree with you. Speed does concern me. It improves with Nordstrom playing in the bottom 6. The Rangers IMO are really top to bottom the fastest group in hockey. They make a lot of teams look slow.

No denying there is plenty negative to see since the end of last year.

Could you be any more condescending?
I watched the game
You know what i'm sick of? Posters that sugar coat this team
We disagree on how the game was played. No need to be a simple jack about it.
And yes the Rangers were the faster team. The more engaged team. And Yes Crawford made much more difficult saves then Talbot, And was the reason that we made it to OT.
The Rangers are a very good team. We agree on that.
What is your excuse for the other 6 times this year that the Hawks have been shut out with all your missing players in the line up?
Classic denial that something is wrong with this team.
And no i am not a negative person about this team. I have defended them plenty of times. And believe they could get it together. They didn't for the Rangers however!
- camfor

Yes.


How is explaining EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED "sugar coating".....im sorry, am i missing something?

Hey, lets try this one more time....and see if it computes....

The Rags dominated the 1st. The Hawks dominated the 2nd. The 3rd was split(Hawks played better towards the 1st half of the 3rd, Rangers better as the 3rd went on). Both teams had 1 shot in OT, and the Rangers went in. Rangers had more SOG overall. Hawks had more total shot attempts and possession. If the Rangers played better at all, it was by the SLIGHTEST of margins(as shown by the final score and back and forth matter of the gameplay). It was tight checking, neutral zone clogging by both teams. Good saves by both goalies. What in the flying (frank) am i "sugar coating" by explaining this time, and time, and TIME again?

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Sorry to be a Richard, and its nothing personal.....but....

"classic denial" lol....im simply explaining exactly how the game played out. IDK how anyone could reasonably think that either team was that much better/faster than the other to the extent you're making it sound("Rangers were more this, more that, more etc..."). And if the Rags were cycling, playing fast, looking like the better team(at times they certainly were, especially in the 1st), its only because the margin between us(especially considering minus Kane, Oduya, etc..) in the speed department is very slim....2 of the fastest teams in the league....and the Hawks had their moments in the game as well, quite even. Not gonna rehash it any further. Im DEFINITELY not sugar coating anything ill tell u that much....

Lurking here is so disappointing
- eagle50

Fixed.

Agree with you. Speed does concern me. It improves with Nordstrom playing in the bottom 6. The Rangers IMO are really top to bottom the fastest group in hockey. They make a lot of teams look slow.

No denying there is plenty negative to see since the end of last year.
- tredbrta

Really....of all things, speed concerns you? With the Blackhawks?

I agree there are plenty of negatives to see since the 1st....mainly injuries and sloppy defensive play, shaky PP, maybe a few other things.....but speed certainly isn't one of them, not gonna worry bout the Hawks team speed just because they skated toe to toe with another incredibly fast team and didnt clearly establish themselves as the faster team....

That is exactly why I am not worried much about Winnipeg...

my oh my...look how the blues won that game vs jets...jackman wrists one from inside the red line and it goes in....pavelic had no idea what was going on

holy jump'n

gd blues just lucked out

Really....of all things, speed concerns you? With the Blackhawks?

I agree there are plenty of negatives to see since the 1st....mainly injuries and sloppy defensive play, shaky PP, maybe a few other things.....but speed certainly isn't one of them, not gonna worry bout the Hawks team speed just because they skated toe to toe with another incredibly fast team and didnt clearly establish themselves as the faster team....
- SimpleJack

agreed NYR Fastest team in hockey