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jmy_1
Joined: 01.30.2014

Mar 6 @ 11:44 PM ET
Good things happen when you shoot the puck.


- Conse


+100
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Mar 6 @ 11:46 PM ET
Good things happen when you shoot the puck.

Also:

Lovejoy: plus 2
Despres: minus 3

- Conse


Technically, I don't think you get a minus when you are the guy in the box when the PP goal gets scored...

Still, it's clear who is winning the night.
out_of_market
Joined: 11.23.2014

Mar 6 @ 11:47 PM ET
He reminds me of a less talented JVR. He has the potential to do it, but just can't put it together. I wouldn't give up on him yet. Let him get a full off season of workouts and a full training camp. Hopefully he has better luck on the injury front and show some improvement
- drummer829


BB = projected bust. For a moment, compare #72's game, or at least his ability to bury the puck, w/ that of BB. #72 scores most of his goals w/in < 10ft of the cage (i.e. the area of the ice BB is to meek to venture into). Flash & dash and skill mean nothing if you can not set-up shop in the dirty areas of the ice. When was the last time anyone saw BB battle for position in front of the net? Right! Secondary scoring... hell, let's just skate around the rink and avoid all possible contact. Here, BB has no game, and will soon be relegated to a mere after-thought. #19 is a waste of a sweater.

F#4
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Mar 6 @ 11:48 PM ET
Technically, I don't think you get a minus when you are the guy in the box when the PP goal gets scored...

Still, it's clear who is winning the night.

- s0rcerer1984


Penalty had expired a second or two before the goal was scored.

Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 6 @ 11:54 PM ET
Penalty had expired a second or two before the goal was scored.
- hardnosed



Had it not... does that minus count towards you or not?
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Mar 6 @ 11:55 PM ET
Penalty had expired a second or two before the goal was scored.
- hardnosed


Ouch. Don't think Despres' night could get much worse than it has been, but that'll do it.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Mar 7 @ 12:00 AM ET
Ouch. Don't think Despres' night could get much worse than it has been, but that'll do it.
- s0rcerer1984

Good for us. Lovejoy's stick work is much improved since his first Penguins' days.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Mar 7 @ 12:02 AM ET
GENOOOOOO MACHIIINOOO
jmy_1
Joined: 01.30.2014

Mar 7 @ 12:04 AM ET
Pouliot's skating and play reminds me of a mix of Letang and Martin.....the moves of Letang but without the speed, but the smarts and shiftiness of Martin.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Mar 7 @ 12:05 AM ET
Pouliot's skating and play reminds me of a mix of Letang and Martin.....the moves of Letang but without the speed, but the smarts and shiftiness of Martin.
- jmy_1

He's been impressive. Our top six clicking tonight.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Mar 7 @ 12:06 AM ET
Pouliot's skating and play reminds me of a mix of Letang and Martin.....the moves of Letang but without the speed, but the smarts and shiftiness of Martin.
- jmy_1


Martin's also a pro at slowing things down, which is something Pouliot does.

Also, Pouliot's shot fake on the PP was one of the first shot fakes I've seen in months. It's a really effective play with this forward group, because it pauses the defense for a couple of seconds and lanes open up.
out_of_market
Joined: 11.23.2014

Mar 7 @ 12:10 AM ET
That last shift (4th line w/ #27, #40, and #13) is the eye-test (for all the non believers) that supports RW's recent post & stats usage. That group is not NHL caliber talent.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Mar 7 @ 12:11 AM ET
Sutter having his best game in quite a while. He's actually winning battles.
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Mar 7 @ 12:11 AM ET
Had it not... does that minus count towards you or not?
- Guile


If you get a penalty and the opposing team scores while you are in the box you do not get a minus.
jmy_1
Joined: 01.30.2014

Mar 7 @ 12:15 AM ET
Adams is sssssssoooooooo slow. His inability to stop the rush in the offensive zone was one of the factors in the goal. wow.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Mar 7 @ 12:21 AM ET
That last shift (4th line w/ #27, #40, and #13) is the eye-test (for all the non believers) that supports RW's recent post & stats usage. That group is not NHL caliber talent.
- out_of_market


Yep, I needed "advanced" stats to determine that Craig Adams isn't a very good 5 on 5 hockey player. Before that I always thought he was the second coming of Theo Fleury.
Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

Mar 7 @ 12:24 AM ET
WTF, everytime with a lead this team starts looking like poop. Its not that hard to play the same way for 60 minutes. Or is it?
Conse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Joined: 11.27.2013

Mar 7 @ 12:24 AM ET
Errey just saĆ­da lapierre is having a good game.

What?
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Mar 7 @ 12:24 AM ET
Yep, I needed "advanced" stats to determine that Craig Adams isn't a very good 5 on 5 hockey player. Before that I always thought he was the second coming of Theo Fleury.
- hardnosed

Lol ... But the pens are a much better team 5 on 5 this year ... Pens pp is terrible!!! Classic to many passes ... To fancy nonsense
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Mar 7 @ 12:26 AM ET
This isn't good. But for anyone who was hating hockey canada today.....Getzlaf cup.2 gold.carter 2cup 2 gold. Perry... just boring hockey huh guys??
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Mar 7 @ 12:29 AM ET
The 4th line has been playing a ton ever since it went to 3-0.

That's just smart coaching with a game in L.A. tomorrow night.

Spaling has just about 11 minutes of ES TOI tonight. Crosby has about 12.

There's battles and then there's wars.
buckster2342
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:31 AM ET
The 4th line has been playing a ton ever since it went to 3-0.

That's just smart coaching with a game in L.A. tomorrow night.

Spaling has just about 11 minutes of ES TOI tonight. Crosby has about 12.

There's battles and then there's wars.

- hardnosed

Adams blows. He should never see the ice. The rest I'm fine with but God damn... He can't even clear the puck to get a change.
Conse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Joined: 11.27.2013

Mar 7 @ 12:31 AM ET
Why was Adams on the ice?
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:34 AM ET
Um isn't that a goal... He was way ahead of fowler.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 7 @ 12:34 AM ET
Adams blows. He should never see the ice. The rest I'm fine with but God damn... He can't even clear the puck to get a change.
- buckster2342


It reminds me of last years playoffs. Night after night he sucks and yet he's right back out there.
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