Also the free agent qb list is better next yr...cassel is only signed for a yr.

Mariota will be a system qb and the eagles will mortgage the farm to get him at 5


I think Winston is a bust, and I watch a lot of FSU games
- homiedclown

you really think winston is going to be a bust?

Raiders are also supposedly going to make a run at Suh.

teachers are such Richards now i ask for help they don't give a (frank)...
all they care about is picking up that check
- gerbe75pts

You have to out smart them.

I got a 4.0 by doing just that.

They don't want to challenge or be challenged. When you do they don't know what to do. Make them realize they are still in charge but you are on to their scheme.

College is a game. It's a game of jumping through hoops yet learning very little to nothing in the process.

Out smart the bastards because in the end, 9 out of 10 times your degree isn't worth the paper it's printed on. All that degree means is you are trainable. That in and of itself is sad for the money dished out. The system as a whole throws more qualified candidates out the window because they don't have a degree.

In the end, learn a trade. Those jobs are much more valuable than anything you'll go to school for and way more high paying. They are jobs you can start at 18-19 and be retired by 50 if done right. They are jobs that are in dire need of people filling too.

Be challenged by yourself not by others. Set goals for yourself. My goal is I always wanted to be retired by 45. I'll be 36 in 16 days. It took me a while to realize how to do it but I now have a plan of action and it will be done. Believe in yourself, set goals, obtain them, and tell the naysayers to go fvck themselves.


Sorry for the rant but I don't like the way the majority of the youth of today goes about things.

Raiders are also supposedly going to make a run at Suh.
- Pierceme69

Makes sense if you think on Raider history.

Just win Baby!

Just got back home from hanging with my buddy. He said he had heard we did inquire about O'Reilly during the deadline and a deal involving Grigorenko and one of our 2nds was tabled but Murray didn't want to bring him here during this season. He thinks the deal did involve something else from both sides but didn't know what exactly those were. In his opinion he thinks the deal was preset for around the draft and will be finalized around then. I asked him what his best guess would be as to what the other pieces were and he said he knows from the past that Colorado is high on Ennis and wouldn't be surprised if the whole trade was something like:

To Buffalo
Ryan O'Reilly
Nick Holden
2015/2016 1st (only one of them not both)

To Colorado
Mikhail Grigorenko
Tyler Ennis
2015 2nd

Keep in mind that over the years I have known him he is very hit or miss. The only things I can absolutely say 100% he got right was Ehrhoff being bought out and Bogosian being in the Kane deal. He has gotten trades to certain teams right a lot but not always the correct players and picks, but he seemed very confident about this which is not normally how he is when we discuss his limited "insider" info. He told me as well, that what we are hearing about Brendan Lemieux is correct. He was not going to sign here and was apparently planning on re-entering the draft. He also said Murray is absolutely LIVID with Nolan regarding player choices. He was very vocal about Neuvirth not being ridden after Enroth was traded and Nolan did it anyway. Said that Murray was really wanting to keep Neuvirth around and try and resign him but by Nolan continually playing him and endangering the coming draft he had no choice but to trade him away for "Peanuts compared to what he felt he was worth."
Again grain of salt please, I am not saying he is a perfect "source" but its nice to have at least a little something.

Just got back home from hanging with my buddy. He said he had heard we did inquire about O'Reilly during the deadline and a deal involving Grigorenko and one of our 2nds was tabled but Murray didn't want to bring him here during this season. He thinks the deal did involve something else from both sides but didn't know what exactly those were. In his opinion he thinks the deal was preset for around the draft and will be finalized around then. I asked him what his best guess would be as to what the other pieces were and he said he knows from the past that Colorado is high on Ennis and wouldn't be surprised if the whole trade was something like:

To Buffalo
Ryan O'Reilly
Nick Holden
2015/2016 1st (only one of them not both)

To Colorado
Mikhail Grigorenko
Tyler Ennis
2015 2nd

Keep in mind that over the years I have known him he is very hit or miss. The only things I can absolutely say 100% he got right was Ehrhoff being bought out and Bogosian being in the Kane deal. He has gotten trades to certain teams right a lot but not always the correct players and picks, but he seemed very confident about this which is not normally how he is when we discuss his limited "insider" info. He told me as well, that what we are hearing about Brendan Lemieux is correct. He was not going to sign here and was apparently planning on re-entering the draft. He also said Murray is absolutely LIVID with Nolan regarding player choices. He was very vocal about Neuvirth not being ridden after Enroth was traded and Nolan did it anyway. Said that Murray was really wanting to keep Neuvirth around and try and resign him but by Nolan continually playing him and endangering the coming draft he had no choice but to trade him away for "Peanuts compared to what he felt he was worth."
Again grain of salt please, I am not saying he is a perfect "source" but its nice to have at least a little something.
- Orphen22

Id do that deal all day long.

Ever hear of Nightwish? They're a Finnish band and a hybrid of symphonic/folk metal, but they have some great Gaelic sounding songs such as this one http://youtu.be/GwES9M0isVM
- LetsGoBuffalo75

Yes LGB, love them as well.
Edgy!
Until I got old enough to really appreciate this music I never realized how absolutely beautiful and mesmerizing the sounds of a flute could be.
Excellent song choice by the way LGB.

You started it .
- cabin

Not bad Hat. Not my regular go to choice but could be a time and place . More a Floyd guy myself.
- cabin

Yea Cab I hear ya and thank you.
Just a very calming sound that I could listen to all day and sometimes actually do.
One of my daughters has surgery this morning , talk to you lads later.

http://now.nfl.com/play/9...52-44b1-a47d-22c6c2e0b1fe

This says it all.

'Kyle Orton retired on them so they went and found the next best thing, a mediocre QB that can bring them an 8-8 season'
- Pierceme69

...and they should have done ...?....

school sucks .. that is all

study .... study ... test ... study ... test ... study .... test

(frank)ing summer i miss you
- gerbe75pts

My school experience was MUCH different it was more like.

Drink drink sleep class drink drink sleep class test drink rinse repeat

...and they should have done ...?....
- IonSabres

Yeah I'm not really sure who everyone is expecting? Free agent market blows.

Grigs scored a goal and was a +2 in last night's Amerks game.

You have to out smart them.

I got a 4.0 by doing just that.

They don't want to challenge or be challenged. When you do they don't know what to do. Make them realize they are still in charge but you are on to their scheme.

College is a game. It's a game of jumping through hoops yet learning very little to nothing in the process.

Out smart the bastards because in the end, 9 out of 10 times your degree isn't worth the paper it's printed on. All that degree means is you are trainable. That in and of itself is sad for the money dished out. The system as a whole throws more qualified candidates out the window because they don't have a degree.

In the end, learn a trade. Those jobs are much more valuable than anything you'll go to school for and way more high paying. They are jobs you can start at 18-19 and be retired by 50 if done right. They are jobs that are in dire need of people filling too.

Be challenged by yourself not by others. Set goals for yourself. My goal is I always wanted to be retired by 45. I'll be 36 in 16 days. It took me a while to realize how to do it but I now have a plan of action and it will be done. Believe in yourself, set goals, obtain them, and tell the naysayers to go fvck themselves.


Sorry for the rant but I don't like the way the majority of the youth of today goes about things.
- dadeadhead

You get out of college what you put into it.

If you think the earning potential / Ceiling for a person without a degree is better than a person with one (generally speaking) I think you need to go back to college.

The few billionaires that didn't need college to gain their wealth are the exception, not the rule.

Labor trades are the same. They can be lucrative if your exceptional and work on your own. However unions artificially inflate salaries/wages through dubious strong arm tactics which makes that career path seem better than it really should be.

You get out of college what you put into it.

If you think the earning potential / Ceiling for a person without a degree is better than a person with one (generally speaking) I think you need to go back to college.

The few billionaires that didn't need college to gain their wealth are the exception, not the rule.

Labor trades are the same. They can be lucrative if your exceptional and work on your own. However unions artificially inflate salaries/wages through dubious strong arm tactics which makes that career path seem better than it really should be.
- RynoBull

The "gross" earning potential for someone with a degree is still higher than one without, and probably always will be, or at least will be for a long time. However, the cost of the college education, and the debt that is now often attached to it, is what makes it a wash, and causes people to (rightfully) question its real value. I work in a field where a degree is required to be licensed. I make a very decent salary which will continue to increase for quite a while. However, I also have student loan debt attached to it. If you factor the costs associated with that, I'm not so sure I am "ahead" of someone who simply learned a trade and forewent college altogether. There are other factors (such as the fact that I have the mechanical IQ of a 4 year-old) that would not have made that work for me, but ultimately, what makes the degree not as valuable as advertised isn't the degree itself. It's the ever increasing costs to obtain it.

Just got back home from hanging with my buddy. He said he had heard we did inquire about O'Reilly during the deadline and a deal involving Grigorenko and one of our 2nds was tabled but Murray didn't want to bring him here during this season. He thinks the deal did involve something else from both sides but didn't know what exactly those were. In his opinion he thinks the deal was preset for around the draft and will be finalized around then. I asked him what his best guess would be as to what the other pieces were and he said he knows from the past that Colorado is high on Ennis and wouldn't be surprised if the whole trade was something like:

To Buffalo
Ryan O'Reilly
Nick Holden
2015/2016 1st (only one of them not both)

To Colorado
Mikhail Grigorenko
Tyler Ennis
2015 2nd

Keep in mind that over the years I have known him he is very hit or miss. The only things I can absolutely say 100% he got right was Ehrhoff being bought out and Bogosian being in the Kane deal. He has gotten trades to certain teams right a lot but not always the correct players and picks, but he seemed very confident about this which is not normally how he is when we discuss his limited "insider" info. He told me as well, that what we are hearing about Brendan Lemieux is correct. He was not going to sign here and was apparently planning on re-entering the draft. He also said Murray is absolutely LIVID with Nolan regarding player choices. He was very vocal about Neuvirth not being ridden after Enroth was traded and Nolan did it anyway. Said that Murray was really wanting to keep Neuvirth around and try and resign him but by Nolan continually playing him and endangering the coming draft he had no choice but to trade him away for "Peanuts compared to what he felt he was worth."
Again grain of salt please, I am not saying he is a perfect "source" but its nice to have at least a little something.
- Orphen22

Right or wrong, it's interesting info, and the ROR info has ruined my day. Thx brah

The "gross" earning potential for someone with a degree is still higher than one without, and probably always will be, or at least will be for a long time. However, the cost of the college education, and the debt that is now often attached to it, is what makes it a wash, and causes people to (rightfully) question its real value. I work in a field where a degree is required to be licensed. I make a very decent salary which will continue to increase for quite a while. However, I also have student loan debt attached to it. If you factor the costs associated with that, I'm not so sure I am "ahead" of someone who simply learned a trade and forewent college altogether. There are other factors (such as the fact that I have the mechanical IQ of a 4 year-old) that would not have made that work for me, but ultimately, what makes the degree not as valuable as advertised isn't the degree itself. It's the ever increasing costs to obtain it.
- buffalofan19

The cost is an issue, as well as the debt associated. However students/parents make poor decisions when it comes to college education. If you a family/person does not have access to scholarship/rich uncle to pay for it a student can easily go to a community college for the first two years and transfer to a state/cheaper college at a fraction of the cost. Most professional positions don't care where you received your degree, as long as you received one. It gets you in the door. I don't need an MBA from Canisus/UB, when one from Buff State works just as well.

If you plan for it, the financial impact is greatly reduced. Of course some degrees just cost a lot but the payout is awesome. You pay a lot for a Pharmacy doctorate degree, but starting salaries are low-mid 6 figures. That debt is erased pretty quick.

Just got back home from hanging with my buddy. He said he had heard we did inquire about O'Reilly during the deadline and a deal involving Grigorenko and one of our 2nds was tabled but Murray didn't want to bring him here during this season. He thinks the deal did involve something else from both sides but didn't know what exactly those were. In his opinion he thinks the deal was preset for around the draft and will be finalized around then. I asked him what his best guess would be as to what the other pieces were and he said he knows from the past that Colorado is high on Ennis and wouldn't be surprised if the whole trade was something like:

To Buffalo
Ryan O'Reilly
Nick Holden
2015/2016 1st (only one of them not both)

To Colorado
Mikhail Grigorenko
Tyler Ennis
2015 2nd

Keep in mind that over the years I have known him he is very hit or miss. The only things I can absolutely say 100% he got right was Ehrhoff being bought out and Bogosian being in the Kane deal. He has gotten trades to certain teams right a lot but not always the correct players and picks, but he seemed very confident about this which is not normally how he is when we discuss his limited "insider" info. He told me as well, that what we are hearing about Brendan Lemieux is correct. He was not going to sign here and was apparently planning on re-entering the draft. He also said Murray is absolutely LIVID with Nolan regarding player choices. He was very vocal about Neuvirth not being ridden after Enroth was traded and Nolan did it anyway. Said that Murray was really wanting to keep Neuvirth around and try and resign him but by Nolan continually playing him and endangering the coming draft he had no choice but to trade him away for "Peanuts compared to what he felt he was worth."
Again grain of salt please, I am not saying he is a perfect "source" but its nice to have at least a little something.
- Orphen22

If this is true, I don't blame Nolan. If you know you are on your way out, you don't really give two poops about the team's future, and nor should you really. He's in it for his own job, and possibly getting another one in the future. This is why I was against hiring him from the outset. While it's true he had to know what he was getting into, I can't for the life of me understand why you would hire a head coach where both parties knew he was nothing but a stopgap. To assume he wouldn't act in his own self-interest seems pretty naive to me.

Hockey's Future has regraded some prospects for a wider scale. Not much movement among the actual NHL prospects.. but Christian Isackson, Kevin Sundher, Mark Adams all have 4.0, Brad Navin and Colin Jacobs have 5.0. Fortunately after this season is over, we never have to hear their names again except Jacobs, who has one season remaining.

If this is true, I don't blame Nolan. If you know you are on your way out, you don't really give two poops about the team's future, and nor should you really. He's in it for his own job, and possibly getting another one in the future. This is why I was against hiring him from the outset. While it's true he had to know what he was getting into, I can't for the life of me understand why you would hire a head coach where both parties knew he was nothing but a stopgap. To assume he wouldn't act in his own self-interest seems pretty naive to me.
- buffalofan19

I agree with this. Of course, IF this was true. Who knows. Murray's ranted a few times that he doesn't ask the coach to set the lineup. If we were trying to lose we'd play Lindback blah blah... I don't know what to think of it, but if what he said was true it makes a lot of sense. Makes me wish we had a true inside man.

The cost is an issue, as well as the debt associated. However students/parents make poor decisions when it comes to college education. If you a family/person does not have access to scholarship/rich uncle to pay for it a student can easily go to a community college for the first two years and transfer to a state/cheaper college at a fraction of the cost. Most professional positions don't care where you received your degree, as long as you received one. It gets you in the door. I don't need an MBA from Canisus/UB, when one from Buff State works just as well.

If you plan for it, the financial impact is greatly reduced. Of course some degrees just cost a lot but the payout is awesome. You pay a lot for a Pharmacy doctorate degree, but starting salaries are low-mid 6 figures. That debt is erased pretty quick.
- RynoBull

I did the Community college route. Went to ECC for 2 years, got all my core classes out of the way, graduated and transferred to Fredonia. Took me 3 years to finish there. I didn't dorm or anything and I still ended up with close to $30,000 in debt when all was said and done. I know that's nothing compared to what a lot of others have, but I still think it's too much when you factor in that I did community college and a state school afterwards.

To Buffalo
Ryan O'Reilly
Nick Holden
2015/2016 1st (only one of them not both)

To Colorado
Mikhail Grigorenko
Tyler Ennis
2015 2nd
- Orphen22

The trade almost seems inevitable from the myriad of people here who have knowledge have discussed.

The only thing I think you'd need to do is switch the picks, meaning Buffalo sends Colorado their late first this year while Colorado sends their 2nd this year.

If you don't believe in Grigorenko, you do that deal in a second.

If you do believe in Grigorenko, however, you never do that deal.

Why? You are giving up a top 2 line winger in Ennis, a 2nd or 3rd line wing/center in Grigorenko (he and Girgensons could move to wing while the other centers the line), and what I believe would be a 1st round pick in a deep draft. Granted, that pick could easily be very late, but you could still get a very skilled played like Kylington, or better depending on when either St. Louis or the Islanders lose.

I have reservations about trading for ROR. I'd rather wait and try and sign him as a UFA without giving up assets. His salary is going to be big enough without giving them players and picks in return.

I did the Community college route. Went to ECC for 2 years, got all my core classes out of the way, graduated and transferred to Fredonia. Took me 3 years to finish there. I didn't dorm or anything and I still ended up with close to $30,000 in debt when all was said and done. I know that's nothing compared to what a lot of others have, but I still think it's too much when you factor in that I did community college and a state school afterwards.
- HonkFortheGoose

People don't realize how astronomical the costs really are nowadays. The frustrating part is that they show no signs of going down or even staying stagnant.

People don't realize how astronomical the costs really are nowadays. The frustrating part is that they show no signs of going down or even staying stagnant.
- buffalofan19

College, long ago, turned from being about education to being a business.

That is bad news for all students.