Wow you guys

*gives self 4 hour ban*

disagree.. that IS an attack. you are deliberately effecting how others view me and that is called SLANDER

nice try tho.. care to go again?
- Dozzer

Baffling you don't see the connection. This is the same thing. Smaller scale, granted, but higher profile.

But it's the same problem.

At what point did Phil Kessel and Dion Phaneuf became victims exactly?

Because all you guys do since december is say how they suck and they should be traded. And now that the media are on their backs, you guys turn around and defend them no matter what?

I have to say, this is hilarious.
- Pecafan Fan

Who is doing this ?? Names.

Wow you guys

*gives self 4 hour ban*
- Garnie

I did the same, but 2 hours.

disagree.. that IS an attack. you are deliberately effecting how others view me and that is called SLANDER

nice try tho.. care to go again?
- Dozzer

Yeah stuff like rapist or child molester is unacceptable. Because that is technically a crime and you can get jail for that. When a person calls you that then that is an attack and ruining personal image.

That has no relation to "affair" type comments that was based on trolls and affairs/divorces has nothing to do with going to jail.... "i saw your wife cheating on you" yet it wasnt true because the person made a false assumption or statement when he could be wrong or right. Same poop

so we live in a world where name calling is punishable?

to me.. that comment, while mean, isnt illegal.

nor should it be
- Dozzer

That sort of accusation is the type of thing that can damage somebody's personal and professional reputation.

They still have burden of proof here, but you bet your ass it can affect the individuals.

saying it once? No. Posting it on someone's Facebook every day for a year, multiple times a day until hald the school does it too because it's funny and the girl kills herself?

Absolutely
- Big_Lightnin

ahhh.. the frequencey makes this particular situation a harassment case.. not simple slander

Baffling you don't see the connection. This is the same thing. Smaller scale, granted, but higher profile.

But it's the same problem.
- Big_Lightnin

scale very much matters

disagree.. that IS an attack. you are deliberately effecting how others view me and that is called SLANDER

nice try tho.. care to go again?
- Dozzer

Exactly.

There's a significant difference between calling someone something that is subjective and accusing someone of a having committed a crime or despicable act.

disagree.. that IS an attack. you are deliberately effecting how others view me and that is called SLANDER

nice try tho.. care to go again?
- Dozzer

If you can show that the attack hurt you in some real way (not just your feelings) and is not true then you have grounds for taking it to court. Wedgie would be able to offer up possible defences against the suit - he was clear that he was just issuing his opinion or that he was not being malicious, etc and the courts would decide.

disagree.. that IS an attack. you are deliberately effecting how others view me and that is called SLANDER

nice try tho.. care to go again?
- Dozzer

I'm puzzled how you don't see this as an attack on the character of Elisha Cuthbert.

Yeah stuff like rapist or child molester is unacceptable. Because that is technically a crime and you can get jail for that. When a person calls you that then that is an attack and ruining personal image.

That has no relation to "affair" type comments that was based on trolls and affairs/divorces has nothing to do with going to jail.... "i saw your wife cheating on you" yet it wasnt true because the person made a false assumption or statement when he could be wrong or right. Same poop
- DougGilmour_93

thank you!

this is what i mean.. we are losing the concept of scale

and this is where parents fail
- Dozzer

Rapists parents failed too. Should the rapist not be punished?

I'm puzzled how you don't see this as an attack on the character of Elisha Cuthbert.
- Atomic Wedgie

(frank)in hell.. people should have learned to deal with this kind of thing in highschool

it is not up to the law and the government to protect your precious feelings

jesus.. think before you speak

"Section 2 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is the section of the Constitution of Canada that lists what the Charter calls "fundamental freedoms" theoretically applying to everyone in Canada, regardless of whether they are a Canadian citizen, or an individual or corporation.
- Dozzer[1] These freedoms can be held against actions of all levels of government and are enforceable by the courts. The fundamental freedoms are freedom of expression, freedom of religion, freedom of thought, freedom of belief, freedom of peaceful assembly, and freedom of association."

Expression isn't speech my dear Bruce.

Exactly.

There's a significant difference between calling someone something that is subjective and accusing someone of a having committed a crime or despicable act.
- BINGO!

thank you.. this is all i am trying to say.. well put

Neither are we.

"You're a fat (frank)in slut" is not a threat.
- Big_Lightnin

I know, but that still hurts..

Expression isn't speech my dear Bruce.
- AdamFrench

speech is expression

anyways.. i am out.. enjoy your bubble wrapped futures.. you'll love it when you cant even move without risk of insulting someone

(frank)in hell.. people should have learned to deal with this kind of thing in highschool

it is not up to the law and the government to protect your precious feelings
- Dozzer

Yes.

"This person slept with this other person" as an individual comment by some random idiot on the internet is not an attack or even worthy of being read or taken notice of.

When it appears on television, it becomes more of a problem.

Exactly.

There's a significant difference between calling someone something that is subjective and accusing someone of a having committed a crime or despicable act.
- BINGO!

It doesn't make any difference if you are accusing someone of committing a crime or sleeping with someone else's wife. If it is untrue, if you know it is untrue, if you said it maliciously and if it causes real harm, there are grounds for libel or slander depending on the medium.

scale very much matters
- Dozzer

It's the root of it.

Do I think this specific kid should go to jail? Of course not. But this is high enough profile to get noticed, and this is the exact same attitude and type of thinking that leads to cyber bullying. It's just a first shot.

This kid literally thinks he did nothing wrong, and not just legally.

I know, but that still hurts..
- bixll

Oh yes, the past can hurt. But the way I see it you can either run from it or learn from it

speech is expression
- Dozzer

A law will be found to violate the freedom of expression where the law either has the purpose or effect of violating the right.

A law's purpose can limit the right either through limiting the content or form of expression. Limits on content are where the meaning of the expression is specifically forbidden by the law, such as hate-speech law, and is the most easily identifiable form of limitation.[10] Limiting the form of the expression can often invoke section 2(b) as it will often have the effect of limiting the content as well.[11]

Where a law does not intend to limit the freedom of expression it may still infringe section 2(b) through its effects.[12] A law will be found to restrict expression if it has the effect of frustrating "the pursuit of truth, participation in the community, or individual self-fulfillment and human flourishing".

League needs to make sure that Rogers does well with its TV deal if it ever hopes to sign another big one. Best way for Rogers to make TV revenues is a long series of playoff runs for the Leafs.

Note - I don't believe that the lotteries are rigged but if they were, this would mean more than Arizona pissing away McDavid.
- Canada Cup

Since the Pittsburgh draft pick to get Crosby, i've always thought in the back of my mind that it's rigged. Of course a team thats on a verge of going bankrupt gets the best player - and has been compared to Gretzky for years before his draft year...

He single handedly saved Pittsburgh....