Making my dreams come true?
- Elbows15

It is a low blow, but intended more for comedic purposes. I've not seen much of Kimmo, other than against the Hawks, so it's no surprise that's the most indelible memory I have of him.
- TheJerk

I got that. Was certainly laughing.

Always pains me that I have been stuck watching the SCF in DC in 2010 and 2013. Maybe I need to plan a trip this year.

Hawks got bigger down the middle...

Latest Bovada Odds to win the 2015 Stanley Cup (2/3/15)
1st odds listed are current-2nd odds were from 2/3
Chicago Blackhawks 6/1 15/2

Anaheim Ducks 6/1 9/1

Nashville Predators 14/1 9/1

Montreal Canadiens 12/1 10/1

St. Louis Blues 9/1 10/1

Los Angeles Kings 16/1 12/1

New York Islanders 12/1 12/1

New York Rangers 14/1 12/1

Pittsburgh Penguins 12/1 12/1

Boston Bruins 12/1 14/1

Detroit Red Wings 14/1 14/1

Minnesota Wild 50/1 14/1

Tampa Bay Lightning 12/1 14/1

Washington Capitals 25/1 18/1

San Jose Sharks 16/1 25/1

Vancouver Canucks 33/1 25/1

Calgary Flames 66/1 33/1

Winnipeg Jets 40/1 33/1

Florida Panthers 100/1 66/1

Philadelphia Flyers 100/1 66/1

Why is Kimmo so beloved by the Philly phans?
- howiehandles

cuz he's an effing warrior, has the heart of a lion, and is a genuinely good person. He's also a really solid defensemen. Great fundamentals, great stick, great skating, and I've never seen anyone break up as many 2 on 1's as I've seen him do.

Hawks got bigger down the middle...

Latest Bovada Odds to win the 2015 Stanley Cup (2/3/15)
2nd odds listed our current-1st odds were from 2/3
Chicago Blackhawks 6/1 15/2

Anaheim Ducks 6/1 9/1

Nashville Predators 14/1 9/1

Montreal Canadiens 12/1 10/1

St. Louis Blues 9/1 10/1

Los Angeles Kings 16/1 12/1

New York Islanders 12/1 12/1

New York Rangers 14/1 12/1

Pittsburgh Penguins 12/1 12/1

Boston Bruins 12/1 14/1

Detroit Red Wings 14/1 14/1

Minnesota Wild 50/1 14/1

Tampa Bay Lightning 12/1 14/1

Washington Capitals 25/1 18/1

San Jose Sharks 16/1 25/1

Vancouver Canucks 33/1 25/1

Calgary Flames 66/1 33/1

Winnipeg Jets 40/1 33/1

Florida Panthers 100/1 66/1

Philadelphia Flyers 100/1 66/1
- Al

Isn't that more a reflection of where the money us going than a relative value of true team ability?

cuz he's an effing warrior, has the heart of a lion, and is a genuinely good person. He's also a really solid defensemen. Great fundamentals, great stick, great skating, and I've never seen anyone break up as many 2 on 1's as I've seen him do.
- benjichronic

What do guys in Philly know about a good person? You guys boo Santa Claus ffs.

Isn't that more a reflection of where the money us going than a relative value of true team ability?
- StLBravesFan

That's how they usually do it.

What do guys in Philly know about a good person? You guys boo Santa Claus ffs.
- 6628

They even boo the Mummers!

What do guys in Philly know about a good person? You guys boo Santa Claus ffs.
- 6628

Guy is a pain in the ass. Lets be honest here.

Oduya was the one killing the Hawks, Everyone thinks Rundblad was why they switched, It was Oduya who was being sheltered.
- Elbows15

I agree about Oduya, think overall it is a combo of things. But no doubt father time has his eye on Oduya.

Isn't that more a reflection of where the money us going than a relative value of true team ability?
- StLBravesFan

Yes....And there are some bigger swings which indicates to me not a deep pool of bettors.

Will he get turnstiled in OT of game 6?
- TheJerk

He didn't...forced Kane down to the goal line below the left circle, then Leighton somehow allowed a wrist shot thru his 5 hole from a near impossible angle.

That was 99.9% Leighton's fault.

If anyone thinks Kimmo was "turnstiled" on that play...you need to research the meaning of the word.

I don't know ... 12 weeks seems a little extreme when some previous players with similiar injury came back in 6 weeks or so ... Dont forget they screwed and glued it back together ... Glue should be dry by then ...
- HurriKane

THANKS I needed a big laugh after work

I believe your avatar is very relative right now (I to Y)

I agree about Oduya, think overall it is a combo of things. But no doubt father time has his eye on Oduya.
- TrueGrit

Not in the context of what is being talked about. And its overblown anyway. They have spent the whole season in the top 3 in GAA until the last week.

It is a low blow, but intended more for comedic purposes. I've not seen much of Kimmo, other than against the Hawks, so it's no surprise that's the most indelible memory I have of him.
- TheJerk

If it's "indelible" in your memory, when Kimmo didn't get turnstiled, your memory is flawed...

...or perhaps indelible is another word you need to lookup in Webster's.

Yes....And there are some bigger swings which indicates to me not a deep pool of bettors.
- Al

Smart money not in yet?

Hawks got bigger down the middle...

Latest Bovada Odds to win the 2015 Stanley Cup (2/3/15)
2nd odds listed our current-1st odds were from 2/3
Chicago Blackhawks 6/1 15/2

Anaheim Ducks 6/1 9/1

Nashville Predators 14/1 9/1

Montreal Canadiens 12/1 10/1

St. Louis Blues 9/1 10/1

Los Angeles Kings 16/1 12/1

New York Islanders 12/1 12/1

New York Rangers 14/1 12/1

Pittsburgh Penguins 12/1 12/1

Boston Bruins 12/1 14/1

Detroit Red Wings 14/1 14/1

Minnesota Wild 50/1 14/1

Tampa Bay Lightning 12/1 14/1

Washington Capitals 25/1 18/1

San Jose Sharks 16/1 25/1

Vancouver Canucks 33/1 25/1

Calgary Flames 66/1 33/1

Winnipeg Jets 40/1 33/1

Florida Panthers 100/1 66/1

Philadelphia Flyers 100/1 66/1
- Al

First, the odds got higher. 6/1 is better the 7.5/1, which is what 15/2 means. Nashville, MIN & LA look to be a few of the teams making the biggest improvement.
Second, sports book odds are not based on which team the odds maker thinks has the best chance to win. They are set in such a way as to maximize the house take in the event of any outcome. For instance, the chance the Flyers have of winning the SC were significantly higher than 100/1. However, the odds maker throws that out there to get a few Flyer faithful to throw a few bucks in.

cuz he's an effing warrior, has the heart of a lion, and is a genuinely good person. He's also a really solid defensemen. Great fundamentals, great stick, great skating, and I've never seen anyone break up as many 2 on 1's as I've seen him do.
- benjichronic

So he can play with Keith on the PP?

He didn't...forced Kane down to the goal line below the left circle, then Leighton somehow allowed a wrist shot thru his 5 hole from a near impossible angle.

That was 99.9% Leighton's fault.

If anyone thinks Kimmo was "turnstiled" on that play...you need to research the meaning of the word.
- ArlingtonRob

I remember that store. I earned my first stitches there...

First, the odds got higher. 6/1 is better the 7.5/1, which is what 15/2 means. Nashville, MIN & LA look to be a few of the teams making the biggest improvement.
Second, sports book odds are not based on which team the odds maker thinks has the best chance to win. They are set in such a way as to maximize the house take in the event of any outcome. For instance, the chance the Flyers have of winning the SC were significantly higher than 100/1. However, the odds maker throws that out there to get a few Flyer faithful to throw a few bucks in.
- scottak

Correct on #1...I just edited to make easier to understand....the higher odds make sense because of the loss of Kane. But what should be interesting is the Hawks are still favored and there are a bunch of teams at 12/1. Not worth wasting many keystrokes now because I don't think there is that much money bet yet. I get these emailed so I post them.

2nd point I don't agree with from the standpoint that odds are made to offset the action. The casino don't have to pick winners the goal is to match up $$ on both sides of the ledger. Certain teams are more popular, as you say the Flyers...So there is noneed to raise the line to attract action because it comes to them anyway. The same things goes on with the Cubs as there are number of people who bet them every year to win the Series so there are odds are slanted by their popularity.

Not in the context of what is being talked about. And its overblown anyway. They have spent the whole season in the top 3 in GAA until the last week.
- Elbows15

Didn't JO have a broken foot from last season? I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't some aggravation of the injury. Pain can cause problems with many different
bodily actions. Not excusing him but there maybe more to the story.

Didn't JO have a broken foot from last season? I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't some aggravation of the injury. Pain can cause problems with many different
bodily actions. Not excusing him but there maybe more to the story.
- sgt1480

I think it is a factor. When he tries to go all out, I have seen a bit of hitch in his stride. Who knows.

I think it is a factor. When he tries to go all out, I have seen a bit of hitch in his stride. Who knows.
- Elbows15

Pain can do a lot to the thought process and making quick decisions. Maybe the upper body injury was a blessing because if we get JO back 100% it's like a another TD move. It will lead to stability to the blue line and add TVR to the mix, I think not all-star we become a very good d-unit.

Iut ohhhhhhhhhhh are the Preds Running out of gas ?


NJ - 2 , Nash 1 shot 10 mins in

Correct on #1...I just edited to make easier to understand....the higher odds make sense because of the loss of Kane. But what should be interesting is the Hawks are still favored and there are a bunch of teams at 12/1. Not worth wasting many keystrokes now because I don't think there is that much money bet yet. I get these emailed so I post them.

2nd point I don't agree with from the standpoint that odds are made to offset the action. The casino don't have to pick winners the goal is to match up $$ on both sides of the ledger. Certain teams are more popular, as you say the Flyers...So there is no need to raise the line to attract action because it comes to them anyway. The same things goes on with the Cubs as there are number of people who bet them every year to win the Series so there are odds are slanted by their popularity.
- Al

Correct on #2, I think we're saying the same thing. The odds don't reflect the 'actual' chance to win, but rather betting patterns and house desire to make money. The Cubs example is a valid one. The Blackhawks are also a national team, so their odds are probably lower that would be expected.