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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 3:54 PM ET
That player has to be available.
- MJL


Exactly, wait for the right player.

No sense in blowing all your cap dollars on the BPA UFA.... again.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 3 @ 3:54 PM ET
So happy to have Gudas on the team!
- GudasNew

Welcome!

was your old name Same Old Same Old
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 3:54 PM ET
If Colorado offered MacKinnon and their first for G, would you?
- PhillySportsGuy


Nice knowin' ya' G. /wave
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 3:57 PM ET
MacKinnon and Tyson Barrie would make me think really hard
- Marc D

I like Barrie but I think I'd rather have that top 10 pick
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 3:58 PM ET
Nice knowin' ya' G. /wave
- Tomahawk


I wonder how many of these types of proposals are bandied about amongst GMs
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 3 @ 4:00 PM ET
Goulbourne signed
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Mar 3 @ 4:01 PM ET
Goulbourne signed
- nastyflyergirl



Rinaldo 2.0! Woot!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 4:02 PM ET
Goulbourne signed
- nastyflyergirl


Well things sure worked out well for him.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 4:02 PM ET
I wonder how many of these types of proposals are bandied about amongst GMs
- PhillySportsGuy


I wonder if any real GM's play fantasy hockey for kicks, lol.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Mar 3 @ 4:02 PM ET
Goulbourne signed
- nastyflyergirl

sweet, glad to hear that...
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 3 @ 4:04 PM ET
was it ever confirmed whether the 3rd round pick is the Oilers or Tampa's?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 3 @ 4:04 PM ET
I like Barrie but I think I'd rather have that top 10 pick
- PhillySportsGuy

Ok, not me, but I don't follow the juniors

you think there is someone where CO drafts that will be better then Barrie?
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 4:05 PM ET
yes it would be very hard to do, but they have 2 firsts this year

I am on a bender this morning about not wanting to see another year of the current D and trying to spit ball options that don't include waiting until G and Jake are in the thirties to have a competitive D

probably the better option is to just wait it out and keep Amac and their draft picks

- Marc D


Why is everyone freaking out about g and jake entering their 30s? Those are two elite players in this league... they're not falling off anytime soon. Look at getzlaf and perry. They're one year away from hitting their 30s and they're not showing any signs of slowing down. Look at Marty St. Louis. He still puts up pretty solid numbers. Jagr last year finished in the top 30 scoring in the league on an awful devils team. Last year aside, look at the sedins- they still put up respectable numbers. Look at Jason spezza. Look at Mike Ribeiro (again, last year aside). Look at Joe Thornton and Patrick Marleua. Datsyuk, steen, Zetterberg, parise, iginla, plecanek, pomminville. You get the point. I think a lot of you are terrified that Giroux and jake will end up like vinny. Once they hit their 30s- their careers will immediately go downhill when in reality, vinny is just an anomaly. What other true "elite" players fell off as hard as vinny did? I really do have trouble answering that question.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 3 @ 4:08 PM ET
I wonder how many of these types of proposals are bandied about amongst GMs
- PhillySportsGuy

did you hear Sather talking about how he went about getting Yandle?

really great stuff

he said him and Don would talk about it every time they were in town, and never could agree on the price, I guess Yandle is a guy he always wanted (so he says now)

anyway he said he thought they would be interested if he included Duclair, especially after the world JRs and everyone saw Duclair and Domi together

so he called them back and when he offered Duclair as part of the package, Don Maloney's ears perked up and he called them right back
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 4:09 PM ET
I wonder if any real GM's play fantasy hockey for kicks, lol.
- Tomahawk

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 4:10 PM ET
Ok, not me, but I don't follow the juniors

you think there is someone where CO drafts that will be better then Barrie?

- Marc D


Possibly. Nothing is guaranteed
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 3 @ 4:11 PM ET
Bill, in your opinion is Lecavalier, and Umberger the only immovable contracts the Flyers have?
- PLindbergh31


Yes. In MacDonald's case, as long as he has he has a decent season or two in upcoming seasons, the contract won't look so bad as D-man salaries continue to inflate.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 4:12 PM ET
did you hear Sather talking about how he went about getting Yandle?

really great stuff

he said him and Don would talk about it every time they were in town, and never could agree on the price, I guess Yandle is a guy he always wanted (so he says now)

anyway he said he thought they would be interested if he included Duclair, especially after the world JRs and everyone saw Duclair and Domi tpgether

so he called them back and when he offered Duclair as part of the package, Dom Maloney's ears perked up and he called them right back

- Marc D


(frank) man. I'd love to be a GM or at least be close with one so I know what's being said around the league
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 3 @ 4:13 PM ET
Why is everyone freaking out about g and jake entering their 30s? Those are two elite players in this league... they're not falling off anytime soon. Look at getzlaf and perry. They're one year away from hitting their 30s and they're not showing any signs of slowing down. Look at Marty St. Louis. He still puts up pretty solid numbers. Jagr last year finished in the top 30 scoring in the league on an awful devils team. Last year aside, look at the sedins- they still put up respectable numbers. Look at Jason spezza. Look at Mike Ribeiro (again, last year aside). Look at Joe Thornton and Patrick Marleua. Datsyuk, steen, Zetterberg, parise, iginla, plecanek, pomminville. You get the point. I think a lot of you are terrified that Giroux and jake will end up like vinny. Once they hit their 30s- their careers will immediately go downhill when in reality, vinny is just an anomaly. What other true "elite" players fell off as hard as vinny did? I really do have trouble answering that question.
- benjichronic

good points

for me it's not so much that they will drop off a cliff, but right now they seem to be in their prime and may never be better

and if they are patient and wait and build it the right way via the draft it could take 3-4 years before the D group is ready to compete for the Cup

nothing wrong with that approach, likely it is the right thing to do

The idea of ...
Schultz/Streit
MDZ/Schenn (or Grossmann)
Amac/Gudas

as their D for next year absolutely bothers me and that will be another tank season

maybe they have no choice and we have to be patient
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Mar 3 @ 4:16 PM ET
Yes. In MacDonald's case, as long as he has he has a decent season or two in upcoming seasons, the contract won't look so bad as D-man salaries continue to inflate.
- bmeltzer

think we are going to see a better AMac next year as well...He got married this year, he was trying to live up to a huge new contract, lots of stuff going on for him..I agree he is a professional, but I think he will need this summer to get back to his game, because when he was with L Schenn for that brief period he looked pretty good in some of those games at the end of last season...

I think we will see a much improved player next year...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 4:16 PM ET
was it ever confirmed whether the 3rd round pick is the Oilers or Tampa's?
- nastyflyergirl

Joe Smith of the Tampa Bay Times says that it was the lightnings pick
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 4:19 PM ET
Goulbourne signed
- nastyflyergirl


Not Much of a surprise. He's having a very strong overage season. It is very likely that had the flyers not signed him, somebody would have. My only issue with them is where he was taken in the draft. He's not a bad prospect.

In terms of where they were in Junior, he has a better game than Rinaldo. He is a good two-way player, a mainstay on the penalty kill, a good skater and plenty of toughness
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 4:19 PM ET
Goulbourne signed
- nastyflyergirl

I look forward to watching him in Lehigh at the end of the year.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 4:20 PM ET
good points

for me it's not so much that they will drop off a cliff, but right now they seem to be in their prime and may never be better

and if they are patient and wait and build it the right way via the draft it could take 3-4 years before the D group is ready to compete for the Cup

nothing wrong with that approach, likely it is the right thing to do

The idea of ...
Schultz/Streit
MDZ/Schenn (or Grossmann)
Amac/Gudas

as their D for next year absolutely bothers me and that will be another tank season

maybe they have no choice and we have to be patient

- Marc D


Ahhh okay I understand. They might actually be in their best possible forms (moreso Giroux than voracek), but again, these are two elite players in the league. There won't be anything drastic as far as production drop off. As far as other players, we need to hope some forwards develop, we need to hope that couturier and laughton have an offensive "breakout" of some sorts, even with our stellar d prospects when they're ready, we can't rely solely on g and jake for offense. Secondary scoring is a must on ANY cup contending team. Especially in the playoffs.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 3 @ 4:20 PM ET
Not Much of a surprise. He's having a very strong overage season. It is very likely that had the flyers not signed him, somebody would have. My only issue with them is where he was taken in the draft. He's not a bad prospect.

In terms of where they were in Junior, he has a better game than Rinaldo. He is a good two-way player, a mainstay on the penalty kill, a good skater and plenty of toughness

- Jsaquella

think he will ever see the NHL?
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