(frank) no.
- Tomahawk

replace Amac with Boychuk

the lineup looks pretty good

I knew this would be unpopular

I guess I have the patience to wait it out, its been a long time though

I am not looking forward to seeing the same D next year, unbelievably frustrating to watch

Guess maybe one of LSchenn or Grossmann will be gone

But Schultz Amac MDZ Streit as the top 4?

Bottom of the Metro conference again and another top ten pick
- Marc D

And having a bunch of young guys in the line up the next year won't be much better

Exactly, he was warning about the danger of rushing out and signing an average player to a 6 year, 30 million dollar deal. It's why I very much doubt he goes after any high priced UFAs in the offseason. And I 100% agree with his philosophy.

I want to obtain my core players, whenever possible, by drafting and developing them or if need be, and the deal makes sense, making a smart "hockey" trade.

Use free agency to shore up an already solid roster and only add at the deadline when you are looking to try and put a good team over the top, and you've built up enough picks and prospects that you can afford to move a few.

Keep up the good work, Hexy!
- BiggE

what if you can get Christian Ehrhoff/P Martin for 6M and move off Amac's 5M hit

Salary is pretty close
Instant improvement

(frank) no.
- Tomahawk

So you're on the fence...

And having a bunch of young guys in the line up the next year won't be much better
- nails

exactly

probably be pushing 7 a year.
- stayinthefnnet

Yep. I was thinking the 6.5-7.0 range

I think it means he acknowledges there is a problem
- Marc D

I think it means that you don't assess a player you signed to a multi year deal based on one season.

More busts than playboy
- PhillySportsGuy

Yep. I was thinking the 6.5-7.0 range
- PLindbergh31

but thats right where martin/ehrhoff are going to be too.

definitely tough.

its cool though.

ben lovejoy only costs a million bucks.

replace Amac with Boychuk

the lineup looks pretty good
- Marc D

Add Boychuck and keep MacDonald, and it looks even better in my opinion.

So you're on the fence...
- PLindbergh31

I like Boychuk as a player, and he fits some needs, but I'm not keen on buying at the peak of his value. He's 30+, not the best mover to begin with, and probably really should only be expected to be a 2nd-pairing guy.

what would they have lost in the weber trade?
- nails

Their innocence

I knew this would be unpopular

I guess I have the patience to wait it out, its been a long time though

I am not looking forward to seeing the same D next year, unbelievably frustrating to watch

Guess maybe one of LSchenn or Grossmann will be gone

But Schultz Amac MDZ Streit as the top 4?

Bottom of the Metro conference again and another top ten pick
- Marc D

That's half of a usable top 4. Maybe Gudas will even be able to fill a top 4 role.

you move Amac by throwing in a first round pick

only way to do it

I know everyone will be up in arms about it

but that pick from TBL what is the chance they become an NHL player?

50-50?

You said I will be disappointed.
You were the one saying they were in closet tank mode (probably by default more then by choice as it makes the most sense)
Do you want to see the same 6 defenseman?
Streit Schultz Amac LSchenn MDZ Gudas

you said that guarantees another top ten pick and I agree


Morin and Ghost aren't ready by next October if that is the solution
- Marc D

I agree with almost everything you say here except:

1. They aren't dealing that 1st round pick

2. That pick in the early 20s has an excellent chance of being an NHL player. The Flyers have done extremely well picking in that range so I have faith in that pick.

I have to think the whole closet tank mode lasts another season and that disturbs me. That's why I said the best hope is these young D get there faster. If a couple of them can make a positive impact next season the team might have some hope.

That said, when we win the lottery everything changes.

but thats right where martin/ehrhoff are going to be too.

definitely tough.

its cool though.

ben lovejoy only costs a million bucks.
- stayinthefnnet

All things considered, I'd take Boychuk over Martin and Ehrhoff if the price tag is the same.

Lovejoy stinks. That move was puzzling. Only thing I can think of is, watching the 24/7 show, wasn't Lovejoy Crosby's roommate? Maybe Sid wanted him back.

I agree with almost everything you say here except:

1. They aren't dealing that 1st round pick

2. That pick in the early 20s has an excellent chance of being an NHL player. The Flyers have done extremely well picking in that range so I have faith in that pick.

I have to think the whole closet tank mode lasts another season and that disturbs me. That's why I said the best hope is these young D get there faster. If a couple of them can make a positive impact next season the team might have some hope.

That said, when we win the lottery everything changes.
- mayorofangrytown

An early 20s picks like that could easily land you the new best goalie prospect. I think that's around where Vasilievsky and Subban both went.

You sure know how to send my heart aflutter.
- Tomahawk

my heart is dangerously close to flutter...

ventricular flutter and then asystole watching this mess

another year of it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stdi-1tIUhM

Better to use the picks wisely and develop players while making the best of the 2-3 immovable contracts.
- bmeltzer

Agreed.

All things considered, I'd take Boychuk over Martin and Ehrhoff if the price tag is the same.

Lovejoy stinks. That move was puzzling. Only thing I can think of is, watching the 24/7 show, wasn't Lovejoy Crosby's roommate? Maybe Sid wanted him back.
- PLindbergh31

im leaning towards agreeing with you. i hope the pens inquire.

they have to figure out something with their defense next year, thats for damn sure.

and yeah. not a fan of the trade at all. loved the cole trade though.

That's half of a usable top 4. Maybe Gudas will even be able to fill a top 4 role.
- JAKEw1234

from watching him play I don't think so, would love to be wrong though

I like Boychuk as a player, and he fits some needs, but I'm not keen on buying at the peak of his value. He's 30+, not the best mover to begin with, and probably really should only be expected to be a 2nd-pairing guy.
- Tomahawk

The contract term he's going to get is concerning at his age. He's been damned good this year, I don't think he's a #1 dman, but I think he can handle top pairing minutes and situations. I guess we're splitting hairs though.

I agree with almost everything you say here except:

1. They aren't dealing that 1st round pick

2. That pick in the early 20s has an excellent chance of being an NHL player. The Flyers have done extremely well picking in that range so I have faith in that pick.

I have to think the whole closet tank mode lasts another season and that disturbs me. That's why I said the best hope is these young D get there faster. If a couple of them can make a positive impact next season the team might have some hope.

That said, when we win the lottery everything changes.
- mayorofangrytown

you are the man

im leaning towards agreeing with you. i hope the pens inquire.

they have to figure out something with their defense next year, thats for damn sure.

and yeah. not a fan of the trade at all. loved the cole trade though.
- stayinthefnnet

Yup. Cole is pretty solid. Definitely an upgrade over Bortuzzo.

from watching him play I don't think so, would love to be wrong though
- Marc D

Maybe not, but he was getting 19 mins a game last year in Tampa.

Yup. Cole is pretty solid. Definitely an upgrade over Bortuzzo.
- PLindbergh31

i dont understand why STL would do that move, just as i cant see the rationale behind despres/lovejoy