Has any team ever tanked as hard as the sabres are right now intentionally? I mean, you're competing with the Penguins legendary Lemieux tank at this point.

Trading away all goalies in-season to roll with a guy whose SV% and GAA (.875 and 3.71) are so bad they don't even rank league-wide on NHL.com, trading the only healthy centerman you have over 14 points on the season, and sending down Mark Pysyk for no reason after trading Myers away for another defensman who can't drive the play up-ice....wow.

TM is not (frank)ing around.

Has any team ever tanked as hard as the sabres are right now intentionally? I mean, you're competing with the Penguins legendary Lemieux tank at this point.

Trading away all goalies in-season to roll with a guy whose SV% and GAA (.875 and 3.71) are so bad they don't even rank league-wide on NHL.com, trading the only healthy centerman you have over 14 points on the season, and sending down Mark Pysyk for no reason after trading Myers away for another defensman who can't drive the play up-ice....wow.

TM is not (frank)ing around.
- TommyDeVito

Tsn tweeted a stat about last 6 it's over picks.. Of 38 games McDavid has 100, next closest over the last six years was 65 points. Murray NEEDS McDavid or the Buffalo franchise is going to be sh*t for a looong time

Has any team ever tanked as hard as the sabres are right now intentionally? I mean, you're competing with the Penguins legendary Lemieux tank at this point.

Trading away all goalies in-season to roll with a guy whose SV% and GAA (.875 and 3.71) are so bad they don't even rank league-wide on NHL.com, trading the only healthy centerman you have over 14 points on the season, and sending down Mark Pysyk for no reason after trading Myers away for another defensman who can't drive the play up-ice....wow.

TM is not (frank)ing around.
- TommyDeVito

I'm surprised the league hasn't commented on it..but this is pretty bad.

They're tanking the same way cleveland tanked to get lebron...embarrassing.

With that being said..its Mcdavid. I'm sure sabres fans are ok with this.

Call me crazy, but I get this feeling the further the coyotes slide, the more likely they are to get mcdavid..I feel Bettman will give them that pick if they end up in the bottom 2..

Has any team ever tanked as hard as the sabres are right now intentionally? I mean, you're competing with the Penguins legendary Lemieux tank at this point.

Trading away all goalies in-season to roll with a guy whose SV% and GAA (.875 and 3.71) are so bad they don't even rank league-wide on NHL.com, trading the only healthy centerman you have over 14 points on the season, and sending down Mark Pysyk for no reason after trading Myers away for another defensman who can't drive the play up-ice....wow.

TM is not (frank)ing around.
- TommyDeVito

I give credit to Murray for taking advantage of the situation he is in, but the league needs to fix this garbage. The integrity of the game is being affected. Making deals, sending decent players down, for the purposes of trying to loose should not be allowed. It's borderline embarrassing to watch.

I'm surprised the league hasn't commented on it..but this is pretty bad.

They're tanking the same way cleveland tanked to get lebron...embarrassing.

With that being said..its Mcdavid. I'm sure sabres fans are ok with this.

Call me crazy, but I get this feeling the further the coyotes slide, the more likely they are to get mcdavid..I feel Bettman will give them that pick if they end up in the bottom 2..
- Trilla

This year is different though- the bottom team is guaranteed 1 or 2, but just because you're at the bottom of the barrel, it's not automatic you're getting McDavid. The odds are the worst they've ever been.

There's an 80% chance that the #1 overall pick doesn't go to the worst team.

Those are pretty good odds!!

This year is different though- the bottom team is guaranteed 1 or 2, but just because you're at the bottom of the barrel, it's not automatic you're getting McDavid. The odds are the worst they've ever been.

There's an 80% chance that the #1 overall pick doesn't go to the worst team.

Those are pretty good odds!!
- Jordo

Yeah, this about the best the league can do, in my opinion. I'm not fan of making the the lottery 100% even for all teams that miss the playoffs as has been suggested in the past.

Conacher on the move again.

And it looks like no trades by the Sens, would of liked to see someone get moved even if it was for low to very low picks.

Oh well, better than bringing in rentals.

3:06... Murray better do something!!

3:06... Murray better do something!!
- King_Karlsson

Do what? Not just directed at you, but what do Sens fans expect?

Are Weircioch or Gryba worth a 3rd rounder?
Condra for a 5th?

To me, there is no point in trading guys who can play in this league and are cheap for late round draft picks that have less than 20% chance of even suiting up one game in the NHL.

Once Murray said Neil and Phillips likely aren't going anywhere, I figured we'd do nothing.

Do what? Not just directed at you, but what do Sens fans expect?

Are Weircioch or Gryba worth a 3rd rounder?
Condra for a 5th?

To me, there is no point in trading guys who can play in this league and are cheap for late round draft picks that have less than 20% chance of even suiting up one game in the NHL.

Once Murray said Neil and Phillips likely aren't going anywhere, I figured we'd do nothing.
- Charliebox

Trading either of those Defense makes room for younger players down the road. The return is not the whole story.
Methot, Karlsson, Ceci and Cowen likely here to stay.

If Phillips doesn't retire, than at least one of Weircioch, Gryba or Boro will have to be on the move if we want to see some players from Bingo come up next season. Of course, trades can happen in the offseason and draft.

3:06... Murray better do something!!
- King_Karlsson

I know .... I was really hoping that Kessel would be in a Sens sweater tomorrow night ..... just to p!ss off Spats

I know .... I was really hoping that Kessel would be in a Sens sweater tomorrow night ..... just to p!ss off Spats
- SensnRBs

Everybody has seen Chaisson play this year right? He doesn't have a place in this franchise. We have Ryan, Hoffman, Stone, Macarthur all as top 6 forwards going forward. Chiasson would fall into the bottom half of the line up. He doesn't have great tools. Signing him in the summer would create yet another overpaid underachieving player on this team. We got into that issue with our log jam on defence with mediocre guys. Let's not start that with our forwards. I'll eat my crow of course if we sign him and he becomes a 40+ point guy like we thought we were getting in the Spezza trade.

We all want to get rid of Legwand, Michalek, Greening, and Neil, but people need to wake up and realize no one wants them. Have to think realistically.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

I completely agree with you about Chiasson. Unless his skating improves he is a 3rd liner at best and possibly a 4th liner.

Has any team ever tanked as hard as the sabres are right now intentionally? I mean, you're competing with the Penguins legendary Lemieux tank at this point.

Trading away all goalies in-season to roll with a guy whose SV% and GAA (.875 and 3.71) are so bad they don't even rank league-wide on NHL.com, trading the only healthy centerman you have over 14 points on the season, and sending down Mark Pysyk for no reason after trading Myers away for another defensman who can't drive the play up-ice....wow.

TM is not (frank)ing around.
- TommyDeVito

It is embarrassing that a team can blatantly tank like Buffalo is doing. Makes the NHL look like a bush league.

I don't blame Buffalo. They are playing within the rules the NHL alllows and they want to guarantee they will get either McDavid or Eichal by finishing dead last. But it sure makes the NHL look bad.

Trading either of those Defense makes room for younger players down the road. The return is not the whole story.
Methot, Karlsson, Ceci and Cowen likely here to stay.

If Phillips doesn't retire, than at least one of Weircioch, Gryba or Boro will have to be on the move if we want to see some players from Bingo come up next season. Of course, trades can happen in the offseason and draft.
- david22

This is what I'm thinking. If the cap doesn't go up much, teams are going to be dumping salary (and decent players) in the offseason. Having a bunch of 5-6 pairing Dmen can actually benefit us at that point.

We may be able to upgrade over the offseason by packaging some of those players with prospects and/or draft picks.

As long as Eugene is willing to take on some salary that is.....

Also, on the outside chance we do make the playoffs, we need depth at that position anyways.

I know the odds are slim that we make it, but on the off chance we do, I'd rather have Gryba and Weircioch at our disposal, instead of some meaningless 3rd or 4th rounder.

This is what I'm thinking. If the cap doesn't go up much, teams are going to be dumping salary (and decent players) in the offseason. Having a bunch of 5-6 pairing Dmen can actually benefit us at that point.

We may be able to upgrade over the offseason by packaging some of those players with prospects and/or draft picks.

As long as Eugene is willing to take on some salary that is.....

- Charliebox

If there was a well thought out plan like this in place I would feel much better. My worry is there is no long-term strategy to win a Stanley Cup.

The team went on a 5 game winning streak and that was enough for Murray to change his mind on what he would do today. If that is the case, this team will be forever mediocre with him at the helm. You can not run a successful business without a long term strategy in place.

If there was a well thought out plan like this in place I would feel much better. My worry is there is no long-term strategy to win a Stanley Cup.

The team went on a 5 game winning streak and that was enough for Murray to change his mind on what he would do today. If that is the case, this team will be forever mediocre with him at the helm. You can not run a successful business without a long term strategy in place.
- maaddmike

So by not adding or deleting players from the lineup, it means there's no long term strategy?

I don't get it.

Right now, the Sens needs are a #1 center and a top 4 Dman. Good luck getting a #1 center at the deadline. As for a top 4 Dman, if we do find one through trade, the price will be a lot lower in the offseason, than it is now.

To sell off pieces just for the sake of making moves, makes no sense to me.

So by not adding or deleting players from the lineup, it means there's no long term strategy?

I don't get it.

Right now, the Sens needs are a #1 center and a top 4 Dman. Good luck getting a #1 center at the deadline. As for a top 4 Dman, if we do find one through trade, the price will be a lot lower in the offseason, than it is now.

To sell off pieces just for the sake of making moves, makes no sense to me.
- Charliebox

Yup- are people really upset at missing out on ANY of the players that changed teams today? Honestly, look at the list of trades, and name one of them that you would want on the Sens....

With the exception of the Yandle deal- which obviously had some huge pieces being exchanged.

MAYBE Z.Michalek?? I was actually surprised that he went for relatively nothing- but still.


There's absolutely no point in getting involved for spare pieces. Even though I would have liked to see some of the dead weight moved out...

So by not adding or deleting players from the lineup, it means there's no long term strategy?

I don't get it.

Right now, the Sens needs are a #1 center and a top 4 Dman. Good luck getting a #1 center at the deadline. As for a top 4 Dman, if we do find one through trade, the price will be a lot lower in the offseason, than it is now.

To sell off pieces just for the sake of making moves, makes no sense to me.
- Charliebox

Murray publicly stated that the way the team played recently changed how he was approaching today. To me, that is having no long term plan in place that you are executing.

Right now, the Sens needs are a #1 center and a top 4 Dman. Good luck getting a #1 center at the deadline. As for a top 4 Dman, if we do find one through trade, the price will be a lot lower in the offseason, than it is now.


- Charliebox

They blew their shot at a #1 center over the last two weeks.

Dear God Murray needs to be fired

Dear God Murray needs to be fired
- Maverick1818

Why? He did what I expected. Now he needs to get Condra on board, everything else can be done at the Draft.

Can anyone name the only NHL team that has not made a trade in the last month?