I think we could see something like that.

Another possibility is that they flip Coburn.
- Michael_Stuart

Coburn has solid possession numbers and a solid HERO chart. Never know with Yzerman. Just trust him.

I don't think he fills a need, especially once Carle gets back. If they can flip him and get a guy like Wisniewski, then we're in business.
- Michael_Stuart

That would save the deals.

I don't think he fills a need, especially once Carle gets back. If they can flip him and get a guy like Wisniewski, then we're in business.
- Michael_Stuart

It does move Carle to the 3rd pair which is the level he has been playing at.

Wiz would be an intriguing piece.

For those questioning Yzerman

http://www.arcticicehocke...s-trades-cory-conacher-to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlqkT738XD8

wiz is just as good if not better than Yandle so if this is whats going down then i think we'll be happy but Coburn? I feel like im having a mid nights nightmare!

wiz is just as good if not better than Yandle so if this is whats going down then i think we'll be happy but Coburn? I feel like im having a mid nights nightmare!
- TheConsiglierre

Wiz isn't even in the same breath as Yandle. Coburn is much better than you think.

wiz is just as good if not better than Yandle so if this is whats going down then i think we'll be happy but Coburn? I feel like im having a mid nights nightmare!
- TheConsiglierre

Coburn isn't a bad player at all. If TB's roster had different needs I'd like this pickup. Just not sure it fits with this group right now.

Coburn has all the physical tools. Huge, very good skater, eats minutes, reliable. Key is, get him with a good solid partner and he's capable of being a good solid top 3.

The thing with Coburn, he's not a Batman. He's a fantastic Robin. With Hedman or Stralman, I could see him being worth the high cost. He got scapegoated in Philly, but he's a really solid guy.

Coburn isn't a bad player at all. If TB's roster had different needs I'd like this pickup. Just not sure it fits with this group right now.
- Michael_Stuart

What if they keep Coburn and somehow moved Garrison(NTC might be voided?) and picks for Wiz?

Brown and a 2nd for Petry?
- Mr_Underwood

sustr and a 2nd for petry would work lets do it

While Stevies burning the midnight Amalie oil with these trades its causing nightmares for us Bolts fans.

While Stevies burning the midnight Amalie oil with these trades its causing nightmares for us Bolts fans.
- TheConsiglierre

You don't like top 4 defenseman?

Or are you going to miss this? (Sorry Arty)

While Stevies burning the midnight Amalie oil with these trades its causing nightmares for us Bolts fans.
- TheConsiglierre

i'm sold that yzerman is not done steve always wins deals

What if they keep Coburn and somehow moved Garrison(NTC might be voided?) and picks for Wiz?
- Mr_Underwood

no way in hell garrison is going anywhere. besides stralman hes been our best dman this year. if we can flip carle and picks for wiz im all for it.

no way in hell garrison is going anywhere. besides stralman hes been our best dman this year. if we can flip carle and picks for wiz im all for it.
- boltsfan48

Carle isn't waiving his NTC to go to CBJ. My idea would result in this:

Hedman-Wiz
Coburn-Stralman
Carle-Sustr
Barberio

Carle isn't waiving his NTC to go to CBJ. My idea would result in this:

Hedman-Wiz
Coburn-Stralman
Carle-Sustr
Barberio
- Mr_Underwood

I think barberio or sustr and a 2nd for petry is what it will be

How is that package remotely close to what NYR gave up?
- Mr_Underwood

1st in this years draft has more value. Moore=Gudas. Dunclair is younger and more promising then Connolly but he hasnt shown anything in the NHL. With out the 4th comming back and with no retained salary it makes it kind of even. Throw in a couple of scrap parts and we get the same value.

1st in this years draft has more value. Moore=Gudas. Dunclair is younger and more promising then Connolly but he hasnt shown anything in the NHL. With out the 4th comming back and with no retained salary it makes it kind of even. Throw in a couple of scrap parts and we get the same value.
- Cloud

Moore>Gudas
Duclair>Connolly
Scrap parts don't get Yandles.

Moore>Gudas
Duclair>Connolly
Scrap parts don't get Yandles.
- Mr_Underwood

What makes Duclair better then Connolly? When Connolly was his age, they where equally hyped. Nothing says he will be a contributor in the nhl.

The scrapparts is to even out the value. Gudas + 3rd = John Moore i would say. I just think that if you look at the cost of Yandle and compare it to Coburn, we should have been in the talks with Arizona.

I feel like we could have gotten Yandle with the assets we gave up... Which would have been better than coburn.

I'm shocked! The price was very high for Coburn. Too expensive for my taste. I hope the Habs don't follow this madness.

While I think that Yzerman overpaid for Coburn, I don't think that he was fleeced in the deal.

Gudas? I haven't heard much about him as a player, to be honest, I would have if he was any good.

If Glencross fetches a 2nd and a 3nd then Coburn is worth a 1st and a 3rd.

I know 1st round picks are sexy, but they are not money in the bank.

Fact is, Tampa wasn't the only team in on Coburn. If you are going to make a push for a player you think might help you in the playoffs, then you have to be prepared to outbid other teams in acquiring said player.

I'm shocked! The price was very high for Coburn. Too expensive for my taste. I hope the Habs don't follow this madness.
- andrest

The Habs will give up a first and multiple pieces to the Leafs for Pole Axe and King Joffery Baratheon.

You don't like top 4 defenseman?

Or are you going to miss this? (Sorry Arty)

- Mr_Underwood

That was one goal. If there is a team this year that can beat Montreal it's Tampa.

The Habs will give up a first and multiple pieces to the Leafs for Pole Axe and King Joffery Baratheon.
- Viktory

God help us. I'd take my chances with Habs current squad and keep the 1st round pick. Polak for the right price maybe but only him!