We're all advocating for a tank here, but it seems that some have taken that same approach to their own thoughts...
- lumlums

almost every good team in the league is big and tough. STL,LA,Bos etc.

and those teams always excel come playoff time

You guys remember me telling you about my bro in law and how he was all about the goons?

This back-and-forth between you guys and mr. sir basically sounds like every single conversation I have with him

Great entertainment to top off my Sunday night

almost every good team in the league is big and tough. STL,LA,Bos etc.

and those teams always excel come playoff time
- mr.sir

Yes, but their tough players can also play the game for more than 4 mins a game. Darryl Sutter just said something about "if you can't get ten minutes from your fourth line, you're not a Stanley Cup contender"... And we could not even get five from Orr and FML...

I'd still take Dion over at least two of those guys if we look at it in a vacuum (away from contracts etc)...
- lumlums

Sure but Bieksa isnt as solid as he once was and Edler never regained his form after Erhoff left Van.

You guys remember me telling you about my bro in law and how he was all about the goons?

This back-and-forth between you guys and mr. sir basically sounds like every single conversation I have with him

Great entertainment to top off my Sunday night
- TheThrill

almost every good team in the league is big and tough. STL,LA,Bos etc.

and those teams always excel come playoff time
- mr.sir

Ahhh so close you could almost taste it.

The difference between our big and tough is that theirs have skill and can play a regular shift.

Sure but Bieksa isnt as solid as he once was and Edler never regained his form after Erhoff left Van.
- Jeropotato

Plus I don't think many of those guys would look good next to Holzer. kostka and Gunnarsson...

Vey, 0,735, 2 years left
Kassian, 1.75 Million, 2 years left
1st 1ound Pick,
Higgins, 2.5 Million, 3 years left
Richardson 1.5 Million, 2 Years Left

Total - about 5.5 million per

for

Kessel, 8 Million, like 28 years left
Phaneuf, 7 Milllion, like 28 years left
Kadri 2.9 Million, 2 years left
3rd Round Pick
Must take 50% of either Kessel or Phaneuf contract (Who gives 8 million dollar, 30 year contacts.... did you guys learn noting from Luongo?)

Total - About 17.9 million per - 4 million for Kessel = 13.9

Canucks then trade Burrows for picks freeing 4.5 and Miller is on LTD at 6.

Done Deal.


and no, we are not taking Olli and you might have to take Burrows at 4.5

Ahhh so close you could almost taste it.

The difference between our big and tough is that theirs have skill and can play a regular shift.
- systemtool

This x infinity

You guys remember me telling you about my bro in law and how he was all about the goons?

This back-and-forth between you guys and mr. sir basically sounds like every single conversation I have with him

Great entertainment to top off my Sunday night
- TheThrill

glad to make your weekend...

tough teams win.

Ahhh so close you could almost taste it.

The difference between our big and tough is that theirs have skill and can play a regular shift.
- systemtool

yes, agreed.
the philosophy should not change based on our current personnel

Vey, 0,735, 2 years left
Kassian, 1.75 Million, 2 years left
1st 1ound Pick,
Higgins, 2.5 Million, 3 years left
Richardson 1.5 Million, 2 Years Left

Total - about 5.5 million per

for

Kessel, 8 Million, like 28 years left
Phaneuf, 7 Milllion, like 28 years left
Kadri 2.9 Million, 2 years left
3rd Round Pick
Must take 50% of either Kessel or Phaneuf contract (Who gives 8 million dollar, 30 year contacts.... did you guys learn noting from Luongo?)

Total - About 17.9 million per - 4 million for Kessel = 13.9

Canucks then trade Burrows for picks freeing 4.5 and Miller is on LTD at 6.

Done Deal.


and no, we are not taking Olli and you might have to take Burrows at 4.5
- Beatle_john

You lost me at retain salary.

I'd rather 4-5 separate deals to get rid of our guys.

Good day, sir

glad to make your weekend...

tough teams win.
- mr.sir

When their tough guys don't suck poop, sure

Ahhh so close you could almost taste it.

The difference between our big and tough is that theirs have skill and can play a regular shift.
- systemtool

Yup. As much as I hate the (frank)er, I'd live to drop Chris Neil into the lineup as you can trust him on PP and to take 12 mins a game...

Vey, 0,735, 2 years left
Kassian, 1.75 Million, 2 years left
1st 1ound Pick,
Higgins, 2.5 Million, 3 years left
Richardson 1.5 Million, 2 Years Left

Total - about 5.5 million per

for

Kessel, 8 Million, like 28 years left
Phaneuf, 7 Milllion, like 28 years left
Kadri 2.9 Million, 2 years left
3rd Round Pick
Must take 50% of either Kessel or Phaneuf contract (Who gives 8 million dollar, 30 year contacts.... did you guys learn noting from Luongo?)

Total - About 17.9 million per - 4 million for Kessel = 13.9

Canucks then trade Burrows for picks freeing 4.5 and Miller is on LTD at 6.

Done Deal.


and no, we are not taking Olli and you might have to take Burrows at 4.5
- Beatle_john

Lolz....

I hope we claim Tye Mcginn.

Yup. As much as I hate the (frank)er, I'd live to drop Chris Neil into the lineup as you can trust him on PP and to take 12 mins a game...
- lumlums

Completely agree. Not anymore though, age is catching up and he's breaking down, but that's exactly the type of guy we need.

Vey, 0,735, 2 years left
Kassian, 1.75 Million, 2 years left
1st 1ound Pick,
Higgins, 2.5 Million, 3 years left
Richardson 1.5 Million, 2 Years Left

Total - about 5.5 million per

for

Kessel, 8 Million, like 28 years left
Phaneuf, 7 Milllion, like 28 years left
Kadri 2.9 Million, 2 years left
3rd Round Pick
Must take 50% of either Kessel or Phaneuf contract (Who gives 8 million dollar, 30 year contacts.... did you guys learn noting from Luongo?)

Total - About 17.9 million per - 4 million for Kessel = 13.9

Canucks then trade Burrows for picks freeing 4.5 and Miller is on LTD at 6.

Done Deal.


and no, we are not taking Olli and you might have to take Burrows at 4.5
- Beatle_john

Ban this guy.....forever

glad to make your weekend...

tough teams win.
- mr.sir

Skilled teams win. Toughness helps, but without skill you're screwed...

Skilled teams win. Toughness helps, but without skill you're screwed...
- lumlums

until the playoffs....

(see Presidents trophy winners)

Completely agree. Not anymore though, age is catching up and he's breaking down, but that's exactly the type of guy we need.
- systemtool

Yup. He'll retire a sen.

Tom Wilson looks to be in a similar mold, if not better. Would love to get someone like him...

Ban this guy.....forever
- MCharisma91

He's a fan of a team with as much future as the 2005 Maple Leafs. He's about to suffer a fate worse than being by banned.

Skilled teams win. Toughness helps, but without skill you're screwed...
- lumlums

Its like the late great Gorilla Monsoon used to say...
"A good big man beats a good little man any day of the week....but I have seen some good little men take some big men that werent very good, and make them look very,very, foolish".

until the playoffs....

(see Presidents trophy winners)
- mr.sir

I don't really count Chicago as being a tough team, and they've won two of the last four...

Yup. He'll retire a sen.

Tom Wilson looks to be in a similar mold, if not better. Would love to get someone like him...
- lumlums

how about 7 years - 36.75 m