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GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 2 @ 10:12 AM ET
I like Coburn and I'm not a huge fan of Gudas, but I have an open mind on him. Not going to immediately re-sign him to being a waste. At the very least, he's a cheaper option to replace Schenn or Grossmann, which is a definite positive.

And I'm happy with the trade overall. If Gudas can be as solid as you and Tomahawk think he can, it's an even bigger win.

- Jsaquella

We shall see, way I look at it. This defense needed to be rebuilt completely. I think Coby needed a change as well. Coburn has been on the decline.....
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 2 @ 10:12 AM ET
I went to look up Radko Gudas on youtube and it's nothing but fight after fight!
- SuperSchennBros

The fans are going to love him. Trust me.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 2 @ 10:12 AM ET
I'm guessing Luke Schenn is next to go. At least thats what Hextall is hoping. Having Gudas now leaves Schenn useless. Hell he's been almost useless with the current crop of D-men. How about that turnover against the Rangers. Good gawd!!
- GOA88

except Gudas wont be able to play this season.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 2 @ 10:12 AM ET
I'm guessing Luke Schenn is next to go. At least thats what Hextall is hoping. Having Gudas now leaves Schenn useless. Hell he's been almost useless with the current crop of D-men. How about that turnover against the Rangers. Good gawd!!
- GOA88



from your keyboard to god's ear.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 2 @ 10:12 AM ET
The fans are going to love him. Trust me.
- BulliesPhan87


shut up, HOLMGER.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 2 @ 10:13 AM ET
If you can trade Grossmann for picks and sign Gudas...you essentially replaced Grossmann at a cut cost rate with a cheaper d man... Although, right now, I acknowledge that Grossmann is a more rounded at this point
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 2 @ 10:13 AM ET
shut up, HOLMGER.
- hammarby31

Get a li-- *gets promoted*
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 10:13 AM ET
Now we can pester ob on a daily basis about potential Flyers picks for the next three months.

- Doc_Sarcasm


Pester away, I'm happy with all these picks

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 2 @ 10:13 AM ET
Hell yeah, much rather have him next year than Luke Schenn at 4 times the cap hit.
- BiggE


He kind of is Luke Schenn at the time of the trade, without all the baggage. Unlike Schenn, let's hope he actually develops further and gets better.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 2 @ 10:13 AM ET
I like Coburn and I'm not a huge fan of Gudas, but I have an open mind on him. Not going to immediately re-sign him to being a waste. At the very least, he's a cheaper option to replace Schenn or Grossmann, which is a definite positive.

And I'm happy with the trade overall. If Gudas can be as solid as you and Tomahawk think he can, it's an even bigger win.

- Jsaquella


I think I'd trade Grossmann before Luke Schenn. Schenn is younger, less injury prone. Grossmann seems more moveable with the year he's having.


Schenn has also been scratched and paired with almost everyone outside of Streit all season. I'd at least have him settle in with one D partner.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 2 @ 10:13 AM ET
Get a li-- *gets promoted*
- BulliesPhan87


hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 2 @ 10:13 AM ET
Get a li-- *gets promoted*
- BulliesPhan87


Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 2 @ 10:14 AM ET
The fans are going to love him. Trust me.
- BulliesPhan87


Last time someone said that about a newly acquired player it wasn't long before I wanted the guy shipped out of town.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 2 @ 10:14 AM ET
If you can trade Grossmann for picks and sign Gudas...you essentially replaced Grossmann at a cut cost rate with a cheaper d man... Although, right now, I acknowledge that Grossmann is a more rounded at this point
- nonpoint22

Agreed.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 2 @ 10:14 AM ET
except Gudas wont be able to play this season.
- jak521

So whats your point? Playoffs arent happening and I'm sure Hextall sees that too
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 2 @ 10:14 AM ET
are you drunk already?
- hammarby31


I wish, sadly I've got to get through work first.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 10:14 AM ET
are you drunk already?
- hammarby31


Is it accurate to say already if it's continuous?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 2 @ 10:15 AM ET
Last time someone said that about a newly acquired player it wasn't long before I wanted the guy shipped out of town.
- Scoob

benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Mar 2 @ 10:15 AM ET
Thats literally cut and pasted from his scouting report.

Assets: Is a great open-ice hitter and very good at disrupting offensive players' flow in the game. Will punish players with physicality. Also owns a heavy point shot.
Flaws: Doesn't have high-end puck skills, so he has a tendency to make mistakes with the disc on his blade. Also needs to harness his physicality and avoid bad penalties.
Career Potential: Aggressive defenseman with upside.

- jak521


I honestly like the sounds of him. Nothing wrong with adding a little physicality to the lineup cuz god knows this team has lacked some this season. Aside from rinaldo's "game changing" hits
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 2 @ 10:15 AM ET
Pester away, I'm happy with all these picks
- ob18


Just keeping score... we're now rooting for Tampa to lose in the 1st-round, and cheering for Chicago to make the WCF?

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 2 @ 10:15 AM ET
Is it accurate to say already if it's continuous?
- Jsaquella

JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 2 @ 10:15 AM ET
Oh my god I love sexy hexy. No one will say Tampa came out on top here.

Here are their hero charts for comparison:

Gudas:


Coburn:


So Gudas is a top 4 shutdown guy. He'll be a perfect compliment to Streit or MDZ. I'm so happy with this trade that it hurts a little. For just Timonen and Coburn, Hextall's added Gudas, a 1st, a 3rd, a 2nd, and a 4th that can possibly become another 2nd. Long live Hextall, like really.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 2 @ 10:16 AM ET
If you can trade Grossmann for picks and sign Gudas...you essentially replaced Grossmann at a cut cost rate with a cheaper d man... Although, right now, I acknowledge that Grossmann is a more rounded at this point
- nonpoint22

Still different players.

Gudas is different than anyone the Flyers currently have. He isnt a big guy.. Hell I'm a bigger d-man then him and im just over 6'1 foot and 210. He is vicious though. Hits really hard. Good fighter.

GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 2 @ 10:16 AM ET
Just keeping score... we're now rooting for Tampa to lose in the 1st-round, and cheering for Chicago to make the WCF?


- Tomahawk

Which both are a legitimate possibility
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 2 @ 10:16 AM ET
The fans are going to love him. Trust me.
- BulliesPhan87


Omg! They said the same thing about Carcillo!!!

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