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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 2 @ 7:59 AM ET
I am just happy I can type with some semblance of understandability.
I don't have the energy or will to fight with autocorrect right now

- nails


How's it going? I read that you're in a Championship round now?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 8:03 AM ET
Hextall only has to trade one more dman for MacDonald to become a regular!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:05 AM ET
You are gonna like Gudas a lot. Plus he is cheaper, younger and we got picks. Flyers won this deal
- GOA88


I'm fully aware of Gudas as a player. He's a solid 3rd pair guy. Flyers are a team that needs defense, and they just traded arguably their best defenseman.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 2 @ 8:05 AM ET
You are gonna like Gudas a lot. Plus he is cheaper, younger and we got picks. Flyers won this deal
- GOA88


Until they sign him to a 5 yr/$4mil contract then he will be just an expensive defensive Rinaldo.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 2 @ 8:05 AM ET
Waking up to this trade is like getting a 2nd Christmas this winter. Hexy you are the man.

Lots of picks to play with now. This is going to be a hell of a draft. That or he can target a specific player he wants via trade now. This move opens so many doors. Thanks Zhitnik!

Still holding out hope for a Rinaldo trade.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:05 AM ET
Hextall only has to trade one more dman for MacDonald to become a regular!
- PLindbergh31


I can't see anyone taking Mac D.. I can see him and Gudas on the 3rd pair..
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:07 AM ET
You don't love it? I could not have expected to get more for Coburn although I liked him here as a player.
- Hextall271


No, I don't love it. It's not a bad deal by any means. It's going to depend on what secondary moves are made now. They've gained a first round pick and a solid depth defenseman, but a team that needs defense now has a bigger hole on the backend.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:07 AM ET
I'm fully aware of Gudas as a player. He's a solid 3rd pair guy. Flyers are a team that needs defense, and they just traded arguably their best defenseman.
- MJL


I think they just traded their best 2 defenseman... problem is, Timonen wasn't coming back next year, and we're not that good with Coburn in the lineup, and we got a massive haul for him.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:07 AM ET
How's it going? I read that you're in a Championship round now?
- tangent_man

Yeah, swim just finished a week in Boston. Missed our national cut, so we are off for a week then start training for next year.
Basketball playoffs start on Tuesday so I expect to be conscripted for some duties there. That's always an good time though
You still doing your blog?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:08 AM ET
I think they just traded their best 2 defenseman... problem is, Timonen wasn't coming back next year, and we're not that good with Coburn in the lineup, and we got a massive haul for him.
- Hextall271


I wouldn't say massive. They could be good with Coburn if they make other moves. It's a catch 22.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 2 @ 8:08 AM ET
I'm fully aware of Gudas as a player. He's a solid 3rd pair guy. Flyers are a team that needs defense, and they just traded arguably their best defenseman.
- MJL

This defense had to be torn down and rebuilt.

They still have Streit and MDZ. They have cap room and a bunch of picks to play with. Hextall has a plan that he seems to be executing.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Mar 2 @ 8:09 AM ET
You don't love it? I could not have expected to get more for Coburn although I liked him here as a player.
- Hextall271


This.. I'm pretty ecstatic of that return! More than I would ever think he would bring in return... almost highway robbery. As much as I liked Coby, I love this deal.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 2 @ 8:09 AM ET
Coburn won't get us a first rounder...
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:10 AM ET
No, I don't love it. It's not a bad deal by any means. It's going to depend on what secondary moves are made now. They've gained a first round pick and a solid depth defenseman, but a team that needs defense now has a bigger hole on the backend.
- MJL


I'm pretty sure Hextall realizes that the D corps needs a massive retooling. You never know, some of those picks could be used at the draft to try and pry away a top 2 dman from someone..
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:10 AM ET
Yeah, swim just finished a week in Boston. Missed our national cut, so we are off for a week then start training for next year.
Basketball playoffs start on Tuesday so I expect to be conscripted for some duties there. That's always an good time though
You still doing your blog?

- nails


Love Boston/Cambridge. Hope you got to do some sightseeing.

I haven't been writing for some time now. I need to get back into it.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 2 @ 8:11 AM ET
I wouldn't say massive. They could be good with Coburn if they make other moves. It's a catch 22.
- MJL

2 things...

You overvalue Coburn.

You undervalue Gudas.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:11 AM ET
This.. I'm pretty ecstatic of that return! More than I would ever think he would bring in return... almost highway robbery. As much as I liked Coby, I love this deal.
- WarriorHockey21



If you look at what fans of other teams are saying about the deal on TSN and sportsnet, they think it's a king's ransom for Coby.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:11 AM ET
I think alot of people here would have been happy to just get a 1st rd pick.
- GOA88


They got a pick in the mid 20's(likely), a late third and a guy who is a cheap third pair defenseman. It's not a massive haul. It's also not a ton more than getting a couple of high second rounders, plus a third pair guy for him.

They got value for Coburn, I don't think they committed highway robbery.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 2 @ 8:12 AM ET
If you look at what fans of other teams are saying about the deal on TSN and sportsnet, they think it's a king's ransom for Coby.
- Hextall271

Yzerman was absolutely desperate to shore his D up this year. He knows he overpaid.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 2 @ 8:12 AM ET
This defense had to be torn down and rebuilt.

They still have Streit and MDZ. They have cap room and a bunch of picks to play with. Hextall has a plan that he seems to be executing.

- hereticpride



:
Just as I had hoped
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:13 AM ET
I think they just traded their best 2 defenseman... problem is, Timonen wasn't coming back next year, and we're not that good with Coburn in the lineup, and we got a massive haul for him.
- Hextall271


It's wierd not seeing the flyers mortgaging their future to win now. In the end it all comes down to how wisely they use their picks but I like what they've done this week so far. Hopefully he's not done.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 2 @ 8:15 AM ET
They got a pick in the mid 20's(likely), a late third and a guy who is a cheap third pair defenseman. It's not a massive haul. It's also not a ton more than getting a couple of high second rounders, plus a third pair guy for him.

They got value for Coburn, I don't think they committed highway robbery.

- Jsaquella

They've been playing better with him out of the lineup and still managed to get a 1st for him. That's huge any way you spin it.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:15 AM ET
Love Boston/Cambridge. Hope you got to do some sightseeing.

I haven't been writing for some time now. I need to get back into it.

- tangent_man

Wish there was time for that during that week.
But honestly, there wasn't much to see around MIT this year except snow snow and snow.
Watching people park on top on 5 foot snow piles was amusing.
Watching the cops have them towed from the top of said snow pile was hilarious.

The furry convention was also like a 24 hour entertainment channel
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Mar 2 @ 8:16 AM ET
That's 'Hedley'.


- tangent_man


No, That's Count De Money!!!
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:16 AM ET
It's highly doubtful we see him until next season.
- Jsaquella

he's out until early May.
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