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OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

Mar 1 @ 10:11 AM ET
Thanks Bill. MDZ is really making a case for himself. I just hope that the Flyers don't miss the opportunity to sign him; for a few years, and not the next twenty..lol.

It was an odd injury to Grossmann last night. From the 15 angles that were shown on NBC, it seemed to hit him in the upper back. I hope that he gets well soon, and doesn't have a head injury.

Sloppy play last night, and the Flyers were lucky that Mason was able to bail them out on several occasions. Players were letting Rangers get behind them, there was lazy passing, and the forwards did not always help the D out. On one series, I saw the forwards just watching the puck. On another, I saw a forward quit going after the puck once the Ranger had passed him up. I really don't know why the forwards are inconsistent with their play or not willing to go to the net. It would be interesting to count the number of shots on goal that were made without a Flyer in the crease. And Schenn is starting to drive me nuts. #10 can shoot a hole through a barn, but can't hit a barn door. His accuracy has a lot to be desired. Maybe he should work on shooting with Danny B, and try shooting at glass windows like the commercial that he made a while back.

Take the win guys, but work on your effort. Even if you did make it into the playoffs, with that type of effort, you won't go far.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 1 @ 10:14 AM ET
That's what I was trying to say.. Raffl could easily be a 20 plus goal guy. He does not get the PP time of Schenn. If he could just finish a little better his numbers would be great.
I think it's time to package the Schenn's up as a part of a deal for Dhelp

- 3flyerkids


Gotcha. Your phrasing caused a hiccup in my brain.

Raffl has a pretty good shooting percentage - 3rd best while being #8 in shots taken - but I agree, for some of the looks he gets, burying a few more goals would be sweet. And I'd have him in front of the net on the 2nd PP ala Simmonds on the 1st.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 1 @ 10:23 AM ET
Gotcha. Your phrasing caused a hiccup in my brain.

Raffl has a pretty good shooting percentage - 3rd best while being #8 in shots taken - but I agree, for some of the looks he gets, burying a few more goals would be sweet. And I'd have him in front of the net on the 2nd PP ala Simmonds on the 1st.

- wolfhounds



Raffl should be on the 2nd PP way before RJ Hamburglar. That is for sure.
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

Mar 1 @ 10:24 AM ET
Speaking about Raffl, what about Read? He has less than 10 goals this season. Is he worth the pay raise that he received? I don't know if he took the season off or is blaming the "mystery" injury that he had earlier on. If you noticed, he picked up his play once the trade deadline starting coming up. I like his D play most nights, but his offense has taken a step back. I was hoping for maybe the 20 goal mark, but now I just hope that he breaks the into the double digits.

And, Coots has the same problem as Schenn does at hitting the barn door. However, I think he's just trying too hard, because of the pressure from Berube.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 10:26 AM ET
I think Hexy has brought some relief to the fan base by making that kimmo deal. Now we are armed with a 2nd rounder this year and another solid pick next year. It would be nice to try and get another pick, but I'll understand if he decides to stand pat if the offers on grossman/coburn aren't to his liking.

It wouldn't surprise me if a hockey trade to shake up the forward mix is made but he time the draft is through
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 1 @ 10:30 AM ET
Raffl should be on the 2nd PP way before RJ Hamburglar. That is for sure.
- 3flyerkids


No doubt. I give him RJ's, Vinny's or Read's spot and not worry about a drop off in effort or production.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 1 @ 10:32 AM ET
Speaking about Raffl, what about Read? He has less than 10 goals this season. Is he worth the pay raise that he received? I don't know if he took the season off or is blaming the "mystery" injury that he had earlier on. If you noticed, he picked up his play once the trade deadline starting coming up. I like his D play most nights, but his offense has taken a step back. I was hoping for maybe the 20 goal mark, but now I just hope that he breaks the into the double digits.
And, Coots has the same problem as Schenn does at hitting the barn door. However, I think he's just trying too hard, because of the pressure from Berube.

- OrangeAndBlack1


Gotta hope this season was an anomaly and not the new norm for Read.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 1 @ 10:33 AM ET
Speaking about Raffl, what about Read? He has less than 10 goals this season. Is he worth the pay raise that he received? I don't know if he took the season off or is blaming the "mystery" injury that he had earlier on. If you noticed, he picked up his play once the trade deadline starting coming up. I like his D play most nights, but his offense has taken a step back. I was hoping for maybe the 20 goal mark, but now I just hope that he breaks the into the double digits.
And, Coots has the same problem as Schenn does at hitting the barn door. However, I think he's just trying too hard, because of the pressure from Berube.

- OrangeAndBlack1


He picked up his play since his injury has healed.
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

Mar 1 @ 10:34 AM ET
Raffl should be on the 2nd PP way before RJ Hamburglar. That is for sure.
- 3flyerkids


id put him on the first PP unit ahead of B Schenn
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 1 @ 10:35 AM ET
Speaking about Raffl, what about Read? He has less than 10 goals this season. Is he worth the pay raise that he received? I don't know if he took the season off or is blaming the "mystery" injury that he had earlier on. If you noticed, he picked up his play once the trade deadline starting coming up. I like his D play most nights, but his offense has taken a step back. I was hoping for maybe the 20 goal mark, but now I just hope that he breaks the into the double digits.
And, Coots has the same problem as Schenn does at hitting the barn door. However, I think he's just trying too hard, because of the pressure from Berube.

- OrangeAndBlack1



Read, Raffl, B Schenn, and Couturier all have had a hard time " finishing" and I guess that is one of the reasons why we are where we are. I think we see one of B Schenn or Coots as part of a package for the MUCH needed blueline help.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 1 @ 10:37 AM ET
There is no rush to re-sign him. He will get his qualifying offer and then the two sides can decide whether there is a multi-yeqr deal to be made or if he signs another one year with the leverage of UFA status in 2016. Either which way, there is no need to rush into something.
- bmeltzer


The Mason deal (3-years, ~$4.1M/per) seems fair for both sides.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 10:42 AM ET
The Mason deal (3-years, ~$4.1M/per) seems fair for both sides.
- Tomahawk


$3.5 sounds better.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 10:46 AM ET
The Mason deal (3-years, ~$4.1M/per) seems fair for both sides.
- Tomahawk


It's definitely complicated. Not much precedent for this situation
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 1 @ 10:46 AM ET
He picked up his play since his injury has healed.
- MBFlyerfan


He looked great last night. The whole line did.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 1 @ 10:51 AM ET
Read, Raffl, B Schenn, and Couturier all have had a hard time " finishing" and I guess that is one of the reasons why we are where we are. I think we see one of B Schenn or Coots as part of a package for the MUCH needed blueline help.
- 3flyerkids


There is no chance they trade Couturier.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 1 @ 10:52 AM ET
It's definitely complicated. Not much precedent for this situation
- PhillySportsGuy


Still can't believe NSH didn't QO him and he was left hanging out there for months... sometimes you wonder if the people calling the shots around the league have a (frank)ing clue at all. It often seems like just a lot of group think.

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 10:53 AM ET
Still can't believe NSH didn't QO him and he was left hanging out there for months... sometimes you wonder if the people calling the shots around the league have a (frank)ing clue at all. It often seems like just a lot of group think.


- Tomahawk


6 points for Marner last night
MatveiDmitrii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 01.16.2015

Mar 1 @ 10:55 AM ET
There is no chance they trade Couturier.
- Feanor


I wouldn't day no chance, but there is definitely no chance Couturier gets dealt before B Schenn.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 1 @ 10:56 AM ET
6 points for Marner last night
- ob18


6 more reasons to trade up?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 1 @ 10:59 AM ET
Cobie played well enough last night that I almost didn't want him traded.
- section32



Besides MDZ, Coburn is the one that I least want to see moved but if the right deal happens upon them I would go for it. They are going to need to try to unload a dman or two
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 10:59 AM ET
Still can't believe NSH didn't QO him and he was left hanging out there for months... sometimes you wonder if the people calling the shots around the league have a (frank)ing clue at all. It often seems like just a lot of group think.


- Tomahawk


I wouldn't be surprised if it had more to do with his personality. He had 1 bad year on the ice. I think Nashville knew he wasn't going to develop with them because he clearly didn't want to be there.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 11:00 AM ET
6 more reasons to trade up?
- Tomahawk


Did you even take advantage of the 2 free days to watch the OHL?
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Mar 1 @ 11:01 AM ET
No, first they watched Luke Schenn for a few shifts, laughed, and then left.
- BiggE


Sorry he is struggling but isn't much of a skater.

What is the main issue with LeCavalier? Too old or too undisciplined on playing a 200 foot game?

Good luck in playoffs.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 11:07 AM ET
Speaking about Raffl, what about Read? He has less than 10 goals this season. Is he worth the pay raise that he received? I don't know if he took the season off or is blaming the "mystery" injury that he had earlier on. If you noticed, he picked up his play once the trade deadline starting coming up. I like his D play most nights, but his offense has taken a step back. I was hoping for maybe the 20 goal mark, but now I just hope that he breaks the into the double digits.

And, Coots has the same problem as Schenn does at hitting the barn door. However, I think he's just trying too hard, because of the pressure from Berube.

- OrangeAndBlack1


There is no mystery injury. His play is picking up simply because he is getting healthy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 11:08 AM ET
The Mason deal (3-years, ~$4.1M/per) seems fair for both sides.
- Tomahawk


There is simply no reason to pay Del Zotto that much next season.
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