i don't care about the remaining dollars owed to him...what's the cost in cap space and for how long, 6 years?

is it possible they could come to a mutual agreement to just terminate his contract, and then he could sign with another team...or is there a provision against that in the cba...like he'd have to go to the khl or somewhere other than north america in order for that to be kosher?
- hammarby31

The first three years is dead cap of $2.83mm, $2.83mm $2.33mm, if I recall capgeek. Then 3 years of $833K. It would be better if they can deal Vinny and eat half the contract, but if that means getting a very good return for Coburn or a poor one, I lean to the very good return & dead cap space

The first three years is dead cap of $2.83mm, $2.83mm $2.33mm, if I recall capgeek. Then 3 years of $833K. It would be better if they can deal Vinny and eat half the contract, but if that means getting a very good return for Coburn or a poor one, I lean to the very good return & dead cap space
- Jsaquella

Pretty sad on his part as the only player to be bought out, (if we do it), twice, but it has to be done.
He has a ring, what, 17 years in the league?
Not bad, I wouldn't hesitate to do it, this team has bought out, or dumped how many mistakes in the past?

Janmark and Backman... two really good prospects... for Erik Freakin' Cole... if I were a Wings fan, I'd be pissed.
- Tomahawk

They're not. They stalked as full as it gets with prospects to the points where they're comfortable with a splash and the fans here know it.

Pretty sad on his part as the only player to be bought out, (if we do it), twice, but it has to be done.
He has a ring, what, 18 years in the league?
Not bad, I wouldn't hesitate to do it, this team has bought out, or dumped how many mistakes in the past?
- puckhead17

I think he has to realize that even on a good team with a legit shot at the cup he isnt fitting in in a top nine role. If he did... Well then that team wouldn't be very good at all then, would they?

I have a hard time seeing him retire. These guys basically do what their agents tell them to do. He's got lots of money in front of him still. He probably just rides the storm out until the Flyers have enough and buy him out.

The first three years is dead cap of $2.83mm, $2.83mm $2.33mm, if I recall capgeek. Then 3 years of $833K. It would be better if they can deal Vinny and eat half the contract, but if that means getting a very good return for Coburn or a poor one, I lean to the very good return & dead cap space
- Jsaquella

jeez....those first three years are brutal. almost 3m in dead space. i don't know. i just don't know.

jeez....those first three years are brutal. almost 3m in dead space. i don't know. i just don't know.
- hammarby31

Neither choice is easy, but if they can get an unprotected 1st + for Coburn, I have no desire to see it drop to a 2nd because they're taking Vinny.

jeez....those first three years are brutal. almost 3m in dead space. i don't know. i just don't know.
- hammarby31

Another team would/could want almost, or the same in retained salary in a trade.

Brian Elliott just went Patrick Roy on Ken Hitchcock

Bernier to St Louis?

I think he has to realize that even on a good team with a legit shot at the cup he isnt fitting in in a top nine role. If he did... Well then that team wouldn't be very good at all then, would they?

I have a hard time seeing him retire. These guys basically do what their agents tell them to do. He's got lots of money in front of him still. He probably just rides the storm out until the Flyers have enough and buy him out.
- hereticpride

That's a good point, ego, & an agents advise.

Brian Elliott just went Patrick Roy on Ken Hitchcock

Bernier to St Louis?
- Jsaquella

or Marty from the front office.

or Marty from the front office.
- puckhead17

It was 5-2 Canucks when Elliott left. Jake Allen had started, Elliott went in and left and Allen came back.

now, it's 5-5

It was 5-2 Canucks when Elliott left. Jake Allen had started, Elliott went in and left and Allen came back.

now, it's 5-5
- Jsaquella

Wait, how many goalie changes is that? 4?

Wait, how many goalie changes is that? 4?
- hereticpride

Allen-elliott-Allen

It was 5-2 Canucks when Elliott left. Jake Allen had started, Elliott went in and left and Allen came back.

now, it's 5-5
- Jsaquella

Jesus, what a game!

Neither choice is easy, but if they can get an unprotected 1st + for Coburn, I have no desire to see it drop to a 2nd because they're taking Vinny.
- Jsaquella

think about the cap savings though, 4 mil per usually gets you a good player Vinny and Hamburger are the rare case.

Brian Elliott just went Patrick Roy on Ken Hitchcock

Bernier to St Louis?
- Jsaquella

did he yap at him coming to the bench? what happened?

Neither choice is easy, but if they can get an unprotected 1st + for Coburn, I have no desire to see it drop to a 2nd because they're taking Vinny.
- Jsaquella

so you'd rather have the first and eat $/cap space rather than not, and have the pick be a #2. yeah, i can see why over the long run.

did he yap at him coming to the bench? what happened?
- hammarby31

Yapped at him, blew him off went down the tunnel

so you'd rather have the first and eat $/cap space rather than not, and have the pick be a #2. yeah, i can see why over the long run.
- hammarby31

I'd rather have the better player and figure out a way to deal with the cap. Absolutely.

Canucks win in the gimmick

Canucks win in the gimmick
- Jsaquella

allen got abused. it's just not fair.

Yapped at him, blew him off went down the tunnel
- Jsaquella

good for him.

I'd rather have the better player and figure out a way to deal with the cap. Absolutely.
- Jsaquella

something tells me both coburn and vinny will still be here by end of day tomorrow.

something tells me both coburn and vinny will still be here by end of day tomorrow.
- hammarby31

Totally fine with the first, and you can be damn sure I'd deal with the second as soon as the buyout window opened

something tells me both coburn and vinny will still be here by end of day tomorrow.
- hammarby31

Flight delays due to inclement weather, right?