Wait, what if you trade Vinny and Coburn and retain a large amount of Coburn's salary to a team that can afford to buyout Vinny? Hexy, you genius.


- hereticpride

Sounds amazing, but Coburn has to get you a tangible return, doesn't he?

Sounds amazing, but Coburn has to get you a tangible return, doesn't he?
- AllInForFlyers

$6.25mm in cap space next season & 4.5mm in each successive season on Vinny.

$6.25mm in cap space next season & 4.5mm in each successive season on Vinny.
- Jsaquella

Trust me, I understand and would dearly love that contract to be gone

Sounds amazing, but Coburn has to get you a tangible return, doesn't he?
- AllInForFlyers

It's definitely an interesting point by heretic

Flyers would be wiped clean In 2 years. But the other team still has a substantial cap hit on vinnys buyout Without a signed coburn, or a signed coburn and them taking on allhis salary

One thing is for sure, if Hextall is trying to make teams take Vinny in the deal it must mean there is some really heavy interest in Coburn.

If they can trade VL that would be great. However, it'll be easier next year after the signing bonus.

If they can trade VL that would be great. However, it'll be easier next year after the signing bonus.
- jstross

IMO i don't think Vinny or the team want him back at all next season probably obvious i know..... guessing Hexy is doing everything possible to accommodate that.

IMO i don't think Vinny or the team want him back at all next season probably obvious i know..... guessing Hexy is doing everything possible to accommodate that.
- flyerfan28

Agreed...don't see how you bring him back

One thing is for sure, if Hextall is trying to make teams take Vinny in the deal it must mean there is some really heavy interest in Coburn.
- hereticpride

6-5, 220, skates well, turned 30 two days ago, proven Top 4 defender who can eat minutes

He isn't Superman, but he could really help a team

6-5, 220, skates well, turned 30 two days ago, proven Top 4 defender who can eat minutes

He isn't Superman, but he could really help a team
- AllInForFlyers

I still have a feeling Tampa is gunning hard for him. The amount of Flames scouts at last nights game makes you think they must be in on him too.

IMO i don't think Vinny or the team want him back at all next season probably obvious i know..... guessing Hexy is doing everything possible to accommodate that.
- flyerfan28

Id hate to buy him out though or lose multiple picks. I'm going to trust hextall at this point.

Down Goes Brown ‏@DownGoesBrown
They say the night before the deadline is like Christmas Eve so I guess it makes sense to include a wandering Sheppard and a lump of Cole.
- ob18

They're calling Cole a "bruiser" here in Detroit, which is incorrect.

With this said, they are looking for offensive defenseman or a two way over here. The run a pretty good system in terms of development, their cuberts are full and they can't graduate everyone. I'd pick the wings pocket.

I still have a feeling Tampa is gunning hard for him. The amount of Flames scouts at last nights game make you think they must be in on him too.
- hereticpride

Would be interesting to see what any of those teams would offer....Getting a team to take on Vinny say all of his salary is worth it alone. Would be nice to get a decent prospect or roster player out of it though.

$6.25mm in cap space next season & 4.5mm in each successive season on Vinny.
- Jsaquella

Cap hit will be 4.5 but he only makes 4.5mill next season and then 3 mill for the remainder

I still have a feeling Tampa is gunning hard for him. The amount of Flames scouts at last nights game make you think they must be in on him too.
- hereticpride

That would be an interesting dynamic if Vinny went with him, because Tampa would essentially be paying him twice....

I still have a feeling Tampa is gunning hard for him. The amount of Flames scouts at last nights game make you think they must be in on him too.
- hereticpride

I think there are teams who are looking at the prices being paid and wondering what they hell they're going to do to acquire a missing piece

I get it: Nobody wants to give up firsts and prospects without a guarantee of a deep run

But if I'm Tampa, I have to understand something:

Yeah, maybe you can beat McDonagh-Girardi, Staal-Yandle and Klein-Boyle, with Lundqvist in net

But it's gonna be harder to do that when all you're bringing to the fight is Hedman, Stralman and Garrison, with Matt Carle banged up

Mark Barberio, Radko Gudas and Andrej Sustr aren't bad players, and Ben Bishop is in the top half of goaltenders, as well. But at some point, you gotta acknowledge when you're bringing a knife to a gun fight, and you need to pay for what you don't have

Cap hit will be 4.5 but he only makes 4.5mill next season and then 3 mill for the remainder
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Flyers are far more concerned with cap space than salary

That would be an interesting dynamic if Vinny went with him, because Tampa would essentially be paying him twice....
- MBFlyerfan

I wonder if the mercy buyouts are still around, if Tampa has one and could you buy-out the same player twice,

I wonder if the mercy buyouts are still around, if Tampa has one and could you buy-out the same player twice,

- Steelmanpa

Amnesty buyouts are no longer in place, even if you didn't use them. They expired last offseason

Flyers are far more concerned with cap space than salary
- Jsaquella

Thanks for the pic.....Priceless

I wonder if the mercy buyouts are still around, if Tampa has one and could you buy-out the same player twice,

- Steelmanpa

Even if they were I think Tampa has zero interest in Vinny, regardless of what player you tie him to.

Even if they were I think Tampa has zero interest in Vinny, regardless of what player you tie him to.
- hereticpride

It almost has to be Calgary that they would try to bundle Coburn and Vinny to. They are almost the only team out there with that kind of cap space to burn who might be willing to use it on a straight buyout

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC
DET sending two prospects and a second for Cole and a third.
- ob18

Janmark and Backman... two really good prospects... for Erik Freakin' Cole... if I were a Wings fan, I'd be pissed.