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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Mar 1 @ 5:48 PM ET
The rags' highest pick n 2013 was a 3rd rounder (Duclair). The following season, their highest pick was a 2nd rounder.

The Marty St. Louis deal leaves the without a first round pick this year, and they traded away their 2nd this year as well in the Yandle deal. They get a 2nd rounder, though, if Callahan re-signs with TB before March 5th. Don't really see that happening though.

They're also without their 2nd round pick next season because of the Yandle trade.

If I'm a Rangers fan I'm starting to get concerned

- Giroux_Is_God


before or after the parade?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 5:48 PM ET
uote]In the history of the league, he sits 2nd for points and 1st for assists for a 14 year old player. Who's 1st in points in league history?
- JAKEw1234


No idea
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 1 @ 5:48 PM ET
Umberger's looked a lot better. Not enough to warrant his pay, but enough to make it somewhat bearable. Vinny should get moved, though. Maybe Edmonton will take him with a Dman.
- JAKEw1234


It will be very interesting to see what Edmonton does to shake things up. I really believe Hexy is moving 2 more dmen by the deadline, which two I have no idea.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 1 @ 5:49 PM ET
Too soon?

http://www.hockeyprospect...-nhl-draft-joseph-veleno/

- ob18

Yes. This is a kid that will be draft eligible by the time I'm Dr. GiG, PharmD.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 1 @ 5:49 PM ET
before or after the parade?
- puckhead17

They're not winning the Cup this year.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Mar 1 @ 5:50 PM ET
Conference champs this week, so I am very out of it.

Is Grossman injured?
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 1 @ 5:51 PM ET
The rangers d core: 24.8 million
-Girardi, McDonagh, Boyle, Staal, Klein, Yandle, Hunwick

The Flyers: 24.65 million.
-Streit, MacDonald, Coburn, Luke Schenn, Grossmann, MDZ, Schultz

Why thank you Paul. Job well done.

- flyer_nutter


That's a tough one to take.. But yeah. Thanks Mr Holmgren
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 5:51 PM ET
Conference champs this week, so I am very out of it.

Is Grossman injured?

- nails


He was well enough to participate at the carnival.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 1 @ 5:51 PM ET
Hedman has been back for a while. Stralman is still playing high minutes.
- MJL


Since I said Hedman was hurt, not is still out, I knew that he has been back, and we were talking about point production and not minutes played, so your post is not germane
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 5:51 PM ET
Long term cash, MJL...long term

Can't extend Yandle if you are paying Callahan in 2019...which they will not be doing, nor will they be paying St.Louis

- AllInForFlyers


Is St. Louis coming back? Or sign another forward to replace him?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 5:52 PM ET
Since I said Hedman was hurt, not is still out, I knew that he has been back, and we were talking about point production and not minutes played, so your post is not germane
- AllInForFlyers


The post you replied to stated that Stralman was playing 22 minutes a game, so it was about minutes played.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 1 @ 5:52 PM ET
He was well enough to participate at the carnival.
- ob18


That's encouraging, it didn't look good last night. I really hope he didn't get hit in the head, he has taken some real shots since being acquired by the Flyers.

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
Only some people on this site would try to argue that Anton Stralman is as productive as Victor Hedman when Hedman has played 20 fewer games and has one fewer point
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 1 @ 5:54 PM ET
before or after the parade?
- puckhead17

To pur it another way, the Rangers have a pretty good shot to end up like the Phillies between lack of pipeline, lack of picks, and impending contracts.

Gonna be interesting.

I hope they end up sucking for 30 years. (frank) em.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 5:55 PM ET
Only some people on this site would try to argue that Anton Stralman is as productive as Victor Hedman when Hedman has played 20 fewer games and has one fewer point
- AllInForFlyers


Nobody was arguing that, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 1 @ 5:56 PM ET
The post you replied to stated that Stralman was playing 22 minutes a game, so it was about minutes played.
- MJL


In your zeal to argue, did you miss the part about Stralman "leading the Lightning in scoring," which was part of the same damn sentence?


Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Mar 1 @ 5:57 PM ET
when is carnival ovewr?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 1 @ 5:57 PM ET
Nobody was arguing that, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
- MJL


Because your back-reading skills suck, that's why
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 5:58 PM ET
In your zeal to argue, did you miss the part about Stralman "leading the Lightning in scoring," which was part of the same damn sentence?
- AllInForFlyers


I didn't miss anything. I clearly posted and stated an opinion towards the minutes played aspect of the conversation. I did not in anyway state that Stralman would be at any time more productive then Hedman would be, or compare Stralman to Hedman in any way whatsoever.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Mar 1 @ 5:58 PM ET
He was well enough to participate at the carnival.
- ob18

But well enough to trade?

Are any legit sources reporting that they might be able to package VL with a D man or is that an Ek pipe dream?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 1 @ 5:59 PM ET
I didn't miss anything. I clearly posted and stated an opinion towards the minutes played aspect of the conversation. I did not in anyway state that Stralman would be at any time more productive then Hedman would be, or compare Stralman to Hedman in any way whatsoever.
- MJL


Then feel free to butt the hell out, because you CLEARLY didn't understand what I was responding to before you jumped in
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 6:03 PM ET
But well enough to trade?

Are any legit sources reporting that they might be able to package VL with a D man or is that an Ek pipe dream?

- nails


I say yes, but I got my medical degree from a crack jack box.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Mar 1 @ 6:04 PM ET
This place
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 6:04 PM ET
But well enough to trade?

Are any legit sources reporting that they might be able to package VL with a D man or is that an Ek pipe dream?

- nails


Has to be a pipe dream. What would the Flyers have to include, or take back in any deal that looks like that, is what I'm wondering. I'd love to be able to listen to those conversations.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 6:04 PM ET
Then feel free to butt the hell out, because you CLEARLY didn't understand what I was responding to before you jumped in
- AllInForFlyers


Do you honestly believe Stralman isn't a top 4 dman though? Thats all I was disagreeing with you about. I think the trade for Yandle is fair value. Not overpayment, but certainly not underpayment.

I just think this trade and the MSL could come back to haunt them in the future.
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