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moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 1 @ 4:29 PM ET
Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak 11s11 seconds ago
Hearing Duclair, Moore, 2016 1st, 2nd for Yandle (50% salary retained).

- JAKEw1234



Thats a great deal for the rags. damn.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:30 PM ET
Dreger says Duclair, Moore and a 2016 1st rounder for Yandle, with ARZ eating 50% of Yandle's money
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 1 @ 4:30 PM ET
Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak 11s11 seconds ago
Hearing Duclair, Moore, 2016 1st, 2nd for Yandle (50% salary retained).

- JAKEw1234



Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:31 PM ET
Good news for Flyers...one less Defenseman on the market.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 1 @ 4:32 PM ET
Thats a great deal for the rags. damn.
- moylander


Good for both, I feel

Phoenix is going nowhere, with or without Yandle, and that's a good haul

But getting Yandle to play with that squad...eff eff eff
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 4:34 PM ET
What a tremendous deal for the yotes

Thrilled duclair is not a ranger prospect anymore.

Yandle so overrated
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:34 PM ET
Dreger says Duclair, Moore and a 2016 1st rounder for Yandle, with ARZ eating 50% of Yandle's money
- Jsaquella


Gotta give credit to Slats for going all in. I do like that d-man pool continues to dwindle. How good of a prospect is Duclair? Better then Krieder a few years back?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:34 PM ET
Also going to NYR is defenseman Chris Summers, and ARZ getting another pick (might be a 2nd)

EDIT: nope, just Summers to NYR

Final deal looks like Yandle & Summers to NYR for Duclair, Moore and 2016 1st rounder.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 1 @ 4:35 PM ET
Thats a great deal for the rags. damn.
- moylander


veto
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Mar 1 @ 4:36 PM ET
kimmo>Yandle
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:38 PM ET
Dreger says Duclair, Moore and a 2016 1st rounder for Yandle, with ARZ eating 50% of Yandle's money
- Jsaquella


1. One more reason to dislike the Rangers. They're going to be a handful for the Metro for a while now.
2. It seems like an even enough deal on players but AZ keeping half the salary is what tips it in the Rangers' favor imho
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 4:38 PM ET
1. One more reason to dislike the Rangers.
2. It seems like an even enough deal on players but AZ keeping half the salary is what tips it in the Rangers' favor imho

- Scoob


3 straight seasons without a first rounder is going to hurt
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 1 @ 4:39 PM ET
Good for both, I feel

Phoenix is going nowhere, with or without Yandle, and that's a good haul

But getting Yandle to play with that squad...eff eff eff

- AllInForFlyers


Yotes paying half the freight, and the main chip Rags are giving up is a player drafted after the Flyers selected Z2.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 1 @ 4:39 PM ET
3 straight seasons without a first rounder is going to hurt
- PhillySportsGuy


Draft's not the only way to build a team
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:40 PM ET
3 straight seasons without a first rounder is going to hurt
- PhillySportsGuy


That's how it is right now. They could deal to get one in the future if they feel it's a problem.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 1 @ 4:40 PM ET
3 straight seasons without a first rounder is going to hurt
- PhillySportsGuy


yes but that has no bearing on the individual deal in question

that deal is bullpoop
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:41 PM ET
1. One more reason to dislike the Rangers. They're going to be a handful for the Metro for a while now.
2. It seems like an even enough deal on players but AZ keeping half the salary is what tips it in the Rangers' favor imho

- Scoob


I like it more for Arizona. I like Yandle, but I could see Duclair being a 30 goal scorer, Moore is a big, nasty defenseman, could be a solid 4th guy and is only 24. Arizona only eating money for this year and next.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 1 @ 4:41 PM ET
The Rangers only have one 2nd rounder in the past couple years. If they gave up a 2nd rounder too, they'll only have one prospect from the first and second rounds over 3 drafts.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 1 @ 4:42 PM ET
I like it more for Arizona. I like Yandle, but I could see Duclair being a 30 goal scorer, Moore is a big, nasty defenseman, could be a solid 4th guy and is only 24. Arizona only eating money for this year and next.
- Jsaquella


You offset some of what they're eating by moving Summers, too
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Mar 1 @ 4:42 PM ET


save us
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:43 PM ET
Mixed emotions, pretty obvious the team wants to shoot the 3 ball. Carter-Williams didn't show that much improvement in accuracy. Its a great trade, if the first rounder is this year. If not, Western Conference is pretty stacked, can't see the Lakers improving that much to be a playoff contender. Probably looking at a 1st rounder in next year's draft about the same place they drafted MCW. I understood the deal, I think he sold a little low actually.

Hinkie better pick the correct PG at the top of the draft this season, and obviously Embiid is going to make or break him.

- ravishingone

solid analysis as always

thoughts on who you want in this year's draft?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 1 @ 4:44 PM ET
Dreger says Duclair, Moore and a 2016 1st rounder for Yandle, with ARZ eating 50% of Yandle's money
- Jsaquella

Didn't see this move coming. With the Rangers already Girardi, McDonough, Boyle and Staal on their blue line, looks like the Rangers are going all in.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:44 PM ET
You offset some of what they're eating by moving Summers, too
- AllInForFlyers


Summers is 27, taken in the same draft as Giroux. He's filler.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 4:46 PM ET
yes but that has no bearing on the individual deal in question

that deal is bullpoop

- -davies-


I dont think the Flyers are going to contend for a few years, so I'm happy the current Rangers are taking away from the future Rangers. Same with the Pens.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 1 @ 4:46 PM ET
The Rangers only have one 2nd rounder in the past couple years. If they gave up a 2nd rounder too, they'll only have one prospect from the first and second rounds over 3 drafts.
- JAKEw1234


But again: They got Kevin Hayes for free

Stepan's an '08, Brassard's an '06, Kreider and JT Miller are both as young, or younger, as Couturier and Schenn

McDonagh's an '07 -- he's the same age as Jake

Their good players are as young as ours, or younger -- would you rather have Kreider or Baby Schenn?

The narrative that they can't withstand losing picks would only matter if they're old, which they most definitely are not
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