Yeah. Losing Krejci is a big blow to them though.
- PLindbergh31

No doubt

Hmm, last time they lost Krejci worked out pretty well for us, so ya never know.

No doubt

Hmm, last time they lost Krejci worked out pretty well for us, so ya never know.

- BiggE

It sure did! Winning the next two would be awesome. Can't get the performances against Columbus and Buffalo out of my mind.

In the Flyers last 13 games, 7 (more than half) have been against playoff teams. Their record is 5-1-1 in those games. But yes, they're playing weak competition and it's all a mirage. SELL SELL SELL!
- jmatchett383

Why are you going back before the Allstar game? I can do that too and add the 3 losses to playoffs teams before the penguins game before the break.

Never said it was a mirage. I just stated this was an easy portion of the schedule. The team was mediocre before it and has been mediocre since. Yes they beat two playoffs teams the last two games but also lost the two games before that against two of the worst teams in the league. So are they good because the last games or lousy because of the games before it?

Do you think they can win the cup? If not, what's the point of the playoffs? Wouldn't clearing space and acquiring draft picks be more beneficial to the future?

Absolutely. Hell, he has been doing it routinely for us for the past month. Im not saying he IS a top pairing d-man, but he sure as poop has been playing like one..

Offensively since he got back in the line up he has been one of the most productive d-men in the game.
- jak521

I think it depends on the situation. Goaltender pulled, I want the more physical defensive defenseman on the ice. I think Del Zotto has played very well, and has added a crucial element to the Flyers 5 on 5 attack. He has also played solidly in his own end, but he's not playing at a first pair level defensively, and shouldn't be expected to. There are a number of defenseman who are better defensively in their own end to Del Zotto. That's not a knock on Del Zotto. Use players the right way.

It sure did! Winning the next two would be awesome. Can't get the performances against Columbus and Buffalo out of my mind.
- PLindbergh31

Yeah that's what scares me. Leaving points on the table against those teams was simply inexcusable. They have to stop playing to the level of their competition from here on in to have any prayer of getting into the playoffs.

Why are you going back before the Allstar game? I can do that too and add the 3 losses to playoffs teams before the penguins game before the break.

Never said it was a mirage. I just stated this was an easy portion of the schedule. The team was mediocre before it and has been mediocre since. Yes they beat two playoffs teams the last two games but also lost the two games before that against two of the worst teams in the league. So are they good because the last games or lousy because of the games before it?

Do you think they can win the cup? If not, what's the point of the playoffs? Wouldn't clearing space and acquiring draft picks be more beneficial to the future?
- psuhockey

Because the playoffs actually come down to playing the games, not who we think can win. Did you think the Flyers could win the Cup when they got into the playoffs in 2010? They got dam close.

Why are you going back before the Allstar game? I can do that too and add the 3 losses to playoffs teams before the penguins game before the break.

Never said it was a mirage. I just stated this was an easy portion of the schedule. The team was mediocre before it and has been mediocre since. Yes they beat two playoffs teams the last two games but also lost the two games before that against two of the worst teams in the league. So are they good because the last games or lousy because of the games before it?

Do you think they can win the cup? If not, what's the point of the playoffs? Wouldn't clearing space and acquiring draft picks be more beneficial to the future?
- psuhockey

No. Yes.

Ah getting sucked back in to this (frank)ed up season...

Love it!

Yeah that's what scares me. Leaving points on the table against those teams was simply inexcusable. They have to stop playing to the level of their competition from here on in to have any prayer of getting into the playoffs.
- BiggE

No doubt about it. They played solid team games against Nashville and Washington, if they can duplicate that tonight, and Thursday they will come away with 4 points.

more.
- hammarby31

more to come...

Ah getting sucked back in to this (frank)ed up season...

Love it!
- Marc D

Snider's wallet is getting a little excited as well.

No doubt about it. They played solid team games against Nashville and Washington, if they can duplicate that tonight, and Thursday they will come away with 4 points.
- PLindbergh31

Exactly. It shouldn't matter who they are playing. Every game, from here on out, is a playoff game. That's the mentality that they need to have.

Ah getting sucked back in to this (frank)ed up season...

Love it!
- Marc D

I'm glad they are making it more entertaining for us, but I'm still not convinced they are a playoff team.

If they beat the Rangers this Saturday, I may see it differently.

Did you think they had a shot of getting to the finals in 2010?
What about being done 3-0 to Boston , did you think they had a shot then?
If you can get in the playoffs then you have a chance.
- opeth_pa

The Flyers were picked by many publications as a Stanley Cup contender before the season started because they had the talent to compete. Pronger, Timonen, Coburn and Carle as a top 4 with Richards, Carter, Briere, and Giroux down the center is a much better team than this one.

Also they didn't win. Everybody likes to cite all these teams short on talent that made a miraculous run to the finals like the Devils in 2012 as examples of the just get in and anything can happen philosophy. Yet they didn't win. How about mentioning some winners as examples. Yes LA made a run from the eighth seed but unless Drew Doughty, Voynov, and Carter are joining the Flyers at the deadline, I wouldn't be holding my breath for a Stanley Cup parade.

Real simple. Beat the teams you are supposed to beat and try and find ways to get points off of the better teams and they can play hockey in late April.

Exactly. It shouldn't matter who they are playing. Every game, from here on out, is a playoff game. That's the mentality that they need to have.
- BiggE

How is this any different then what I posted earlier? Which you replied with

"You truly enjoy stating the obvious, don't you?"

The Flyers were picked by many publications as a Stanley Cup contender before the season started because they had the talent to compete. Pronger, Timonnen, Coburn and Carle as a top 4 with Richards, Carter, Briere, and Giroux down the center is a much better team than this one.

Also they didn't win. Everybody likes to cite all these teams short on talent that made a miraculous run to the finals like the Devils in 2012 as examples of the just get in and anything can happen philosophy. Yet they didn't win. How about mentioning some winners as examples. Yes LA made a run from the eighth seed but unless Drew Doughty, Voynov, and Carter are joining the Flyers at the deadline, I wouldn't be holding my breath for a Stanley Cup parade.
- psuhockey

He asked about getting to the Finals in 2010, not about winning it. I wasn't going to hold my breath for a parade in 2010 either, but they came dam close.

How is this any different then what I posted earlier? Which you replied with

"You truly enjoy stating the obvious, don't you?"
- MJL

He was agreeing with a poster whereas your post seemed somewhat confrontational.

I think it depends on the situation. Goaltender pulled, I want the more physical defensive defenseman on the ice. I think Del Zotto has played very well, and has added a crucial element to the Flyers 5 on 5 attack. He has also played solidly in his own end, but he's not playing at a first pair level defensively, and shouldn't be expected to. There are a number of defenseman who are better defensively in their own end to Del Zotto. That's not a knock on Del Zotto. Use players the right way.
- MJL

The whole first pair level thing is totally up to interpretation. He has been our best all situations d-man for the past month and a half. That to me means he is playing as a top pair level... for our team.

When you try use certain players as an example of a top pair d-man, guys like Doughty, Weber, etc.. Thats kinda not fair. They are elite d-men. Very few of them in the NHL.


EDIT: Also, were you referring to us having our goalie pulled or the other way around?

I'm glad they are making it more entertaining for us, but I'm still not convinced they are a playoff team.

If they beat the Rangers this Saturday, I may see it differently.
- johndewar

I'm enjoying it too.

I like seeing them play to their capabilities.

But lose to Carolina or Leafs and it will be right back to the suck fest.

One thing i dont understand with this team is why you have a guy like L. Schenn playing top 3 mins or sometimes top 2 mins when hes in the lineup and then he gets benched for the next 5+ games for a guy who is playing the least out of all 6 dman when in the lineup. same thing happen to MDZ he would be benched for 5 games come back in and play on the second power play and get 20mins.

One thing i dont understand with this team is why you have a guy like L. Schenn playing top 3 mins or sometimes top 2 mins when hes in the lineup and then he gets benched for the next 5+ games for a guy who is playing the least out of all 6 dman when in the lineup. same thing happen to MDZ he would be benched for 5 games come back in and play on the second power play and get 20mins.
- mace14

He was getting those minutes primarily because of his partner.

He asked about getting to the Finals in 2010, not about winning it. I wasn't going to hold my breath for a parade in 2010 either, but they came dam close.
- MJL

How about the Flyers build a team that not only comes close but wins it?

If Emery didn't get hurt IMO, they did build that team. But that is with ridiculous depth at center and a future hall of famer on defense with another defender who was an above average #1 on the majority of teams league wide leading the 2nd pair. But this group is nowhere near as talented so let's rebuild the roster so it is.

He also said the if you get in the playoffs you have a chance which is garbage if you don't have the talent.

He was getting those minutes primarily because of his partner.
- jak521

Then why not make him the 3rd pairing. Dont forget he plays on the top PK unit almost every night he is in the lineup.

Then why not make him the 3rd pairing. Dont forget he plays on the top PK unit almost every night he is in the lineup.
- mace14

Honestly? The main reason is because there are better options. Luke is our 8th best d-man right now.