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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:00 PM ET
allegedly, he's been doing better work lately. I'm skeptical, but I do recall he was solid when he first hit the scene.
- BulliesPhan87


He certainly had potential. I hope he's coming around and leaving the Tim/Sam influence behind.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 24 @ 6:00 PM ET
Frank has been much better this season. Even when i have disagreed with his columns, he's usually provided a decent argument and food for thought.
- Jsaquella

I'll takes yous guys word for it then and upgrade him to probation status.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:01 PM ET
They've always had trouble putting pucks in the net even when they were going to the finals. This is just beyond anything I envisioned when the calendar turned. I imagined them moving up the standings, not opening themselves up to being on the outside looking in.

I wonder if Chiarelli is willing to move a piece to fill that center slot?

- mayorofangrytown


They were supposedly looking for D help before the Krejci news. Knowing how their game can sometimes come off the rails without him, it has to be a consideration for him.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:02 PM ET
The change to going back to that may have happened when he attended things other reporters didn't and wanted to use quotes from those events and Frank took issue with it.
- ob18


I hadn't heard that one. That might explain it.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:02 PM ET
Analyzing the value of NHL draft picks

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ng-value-nhl-draft-picks/
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 24 @ 6:03 PM ET
They were supposedly looking for D help before the Krejci news. Knowing how their game can sometimes come off the rails without him, it has to be a consideration for him.
- Jsaquella

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:03 PM ET
I have to say, I'm disappointed the Flyers did nothing more to send a message to Rinaldo. He was scratched two games, but pretty much the second they found somewhere to plug him in they made the move and got him back in the line up. Maybe I've missed something, but his play hasn't exactly forced Rube's hand, either.

Aside from a little lip service, there was no visible message sent to the player.

- BulliesPhan87


I honestly think the best thing for Rinaldo at this point is to go down to the AHL, and find his game. We know he can skate and play physically. In my view in order to be a more valuable player, he needs to find other ways to contribute. In the AHL he can work on his discipline, his play away from the puck, and even play on the PK. He'll get more icetime down there also, in the hopes that he can move forward as a player. I think Terry Murray can help him with those things, and it also sends a message to him that he needs to improve.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:03 PM ET
I hadn't heard that one. That might explain it.
- tangent_man


Think it was a game from Lightning to the Panthers and some took the early flight to make the morning skate other didn't but complained when the team didn't release stuff used from talking to the coaches and players because Frank said they should have took an earlier flight to be there for it.

I could be wrong.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:04 PM ET

- BulliesPhan87


I wonder what we'd have to take back, I know the B's don't have the best cap situation
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 24 @ 6:05 PM ET
I wonder what we'd have to take back, I know the B's don't have the best cap situation
- Jsaquella


GID
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 6:05 PM ET
None of those guys are on the roster right now, aside from Colaiacovo. The ball's in Hextall's court at the moment.
- BulliesPhan87

Luke Schenn is not on the roster?

Christ, just dress 7 D, Luke can chip in on the pk or when a game gets chippy, while Voracek, Raffl, Read, and Simmonds can all take an occasional shift with VDV and PEB. There's no way you're gonna convince me that its better to have an idiot like Rinaldo or the shell that is VLC in the lineup instead.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:05 PM ET
They were supposedly looking for D help before the Krejci news. Knowing how their game can sometimes come off the rails without him, it has to be a consideration for him.
- Jsaquella

They might have to move D now that they're relatively healthy to rent a center. You can probably envision making one more run with McQuaid, Siedenberg and Chara. Losing Boychuk really hurt them but they have some young D that might fetch a rental, then it's time to retool that back end.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:06 PM ET
Think it was a game from Lightning to the Panthers and some took the early flight to make the morning skate other didn't but complained when the team didn't release stuff used from talking to the coaches and players because Frank said they should have took an earlier flight to be there for it.

I could be wrong.

- ob18


Work ethic. You want the quotes, make the trip. I like it.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 24 @ 6:06 PM ET
I honestly think the best thing for Rinaldo at this point is to go down to the AHL, and find his game. We know he can skate and play physically. In my view in order to be a more valuable player, he needs to find other ways to contribute. In the AHL he can work on his discipline, his play away from the puck, and even play on the PK. He'll get more icetime down there also, in the hopes that he can move forward as a player. I think Terry Murray can help him with those things, and it also sends a message to him that he needs to improve.
- MJL

I'd like to see that (sincerely), but I get the impression the organization doesn't see anything wrong with him.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:06 PM ET

GID

- BulliesPhan87

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 24 @ 6:07 PM ET
I honestly think the best thing for Rinaldo at this point is to go down to the AHL, and find his game. We know he can skate and play physically. In my view in order to be a more valuable player, he needs to find other ways to contribute. In the AHL he can work on his discipline, his play away from the puck, and even play on the PK. He'll get more icetime down there also, in the hopes that he can move forward as a player. I think Terry Murray can help him with those things, and it also sends a message to him that he needs to improve.
- MJL


Not a crime to go into the AHL and improve your game

Rinaldo can is a plus-skater and hitter. He has courage. Those things are great starting points. He could make himself a better player

But I just couldn't put a guy on the ice who, at any second, might take a 2-5-10 -- and you aren't stunned when it happens
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:07 PM ET
They might have to move D now that they're relatively healthy to rent a center. You can probably envision making one more run with McQuaid, Siedenberg and Chara. Losing Boychuk really hurt them but they have some young D that might fetch a rental, then it's time to retool that back end.
- mayorofangrytown


True. Of course, Krejci should be back for the playoffs...but if they don't make it, what good is that?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 24 @ 6:08 PM ET
Luke Schenn is not on the roster?

Christ, just dress 7 D, Luke can chip in on the pk or when a game gets chippy, while Voracek, Raffl, Read, and Simmonds can all take an occasional shift with VDV and PEB. There's no way you're gonna convince me that its better to have an idiot like Rinaldo or the shell that is VLC in the lineup instead.

- BiggE

Schenn, Cola, it's still option 2. Laughton, Straka, et al aren't here, so Berube can't make those decision.

I hope you didn't get the impression I want Rinaldo in the line up
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:09 PM ET
Not a crime to go into the AHL and improve your game

Rinaldo can is a plus-skater and hitter. He has courage. Those things are great starting points. He could make himself a better player

But I just couldn't put a guy on the ice who, at any second, might take a 2-5-10 -- and you aren't stunned when it happens

- AllInForFlyers


That's the thing, you can't trust Rinaldo. Even ignoring that the refs seem to have an even tighter leash now, he's always prone to making a dumb play or taking a dumb penalty.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 6:09 PM ET
Not a crime to go into the AHL and improve your game

Rinaldo can is a plus-skater and hitter. He has courage. Those things are great starting points. He could make himself a better player

But I just couldn't put a guy on the ice who, at any second, might take a 2-5-10 -- and you aren't stunned when it happens

- AllInForFlyers

He's been a pro for how long now? 5 years? If he hasn't learned self discipline by now, its never going to happen.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 24 @ 6:09 PM ET
I wonder what we'd have to take back, I know the B's don't have the best cap situation
- Jsaquella



The B's cap situation is every bit as much of a mess as the Flyers' situation, and here's the thing: Krecji is supposed to be back before the playoffs start. So, its not like they can just make a move and worry about the salary consequences after the season. They have to worry about it in the first or second week of April.

If there were only 8 teams that could've swallowed Mike Richards' deal without moving salary out, what are the chances of the Flyers or Bruins being able to make a worthwhile deal to shed salary without taking on a bad contract in return?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 6:10 PM ET
The flyers are making the playoffs, ACCEPT IT
- funmaster18


BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 6:10 PM ET
Schenn, Cola, it's still option 2. Laughton, Straka, et al aren't here, so Berube can't make those decision.

I hope you didn't get the impression I want Rinaldo in the line up

- BulliesPhan87

We certainly agree on that!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:10 PM ET
The B's cap situation is every bit as much of a mess as the Flyers' situation, and here's the thing: Krecji is supposed to be back before the playoffs start. So, its not like they can just make a move and worry about the salary consequences after the season. They have to worry about it in the first or second week of April.

If there were only 8 teams that could've swallowed Mike Richards' deal without moving salary out, what are the chances of the Flyers or Bruins being able to make a worthwhile deal to shed salary without taking on a bad contract in return?

- Doc_Sarcasm


Flyers could take an expiring bad contract back.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:10 PM ET
True. Of course, Krejci should be back for the playoffs...but if they don't make it, what good is that?
- Jsaquella

Friday I heard Florida was in on Kessel.

I just laughed.
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