What that deal gets you is the sound of laughter followed by a click, and then calls from the other 28 GMs laughing at you.
- Feeling Glucky?

Says the guy with the cute doggie picture.

But that's the thing, Leafs have other assets they could move out to help the rebuild along if they don't get something they like for Kessel.

JVR alone could get more than what these guys think Kessel is worth.


There are very few players like Kessel in he league, and even fewer available for trade, locked down long-term. If the Leafs are moving him, it's on their terms, which puts them in a position of strength. Especially if the other team is somewhat desperate to look like a legitimate franchise.
- Feeling Glucky?

to be honest, i don't think anyone really knows whether the leafs are in a position of strength or not.

as far as i can remember, since the salary cap has come into play, the only player traded who had a big money long term deal was luongo.....and he was basically given away for free.

nobody really knows what impact his contract will have on a trade. it's one thing to give that kind of money out on an extension or to an FA....it's entirely different to take that money on, while at the same time sending several valuable assets back in return.

IMO, it takes a lot of value away from the player (relatively speaking).......but in reality, nobody knows.

I would rather have Bjugstad
- Champ

Dale did a super job signing him long term, he's not being traded.

Lol definitely leave it in that case. Enjoy your first round sweep, if you even make the playoffs.

If you want Kessel, start with:

Huberdeau
Trochek
1st 2015

Take it or leave it.
- cesareborgia

Your proposal actual makes sense ...Hurbereau for Kessel straight up?????thats a joke

to be honest, i don't think anyone really knows whether the leafs are in a position of strength or not.

as far as i can remember, since the salary cap has come into play, the only player traded who had a big money long term deal was luongo.....and he was basically given away for free.

nobody really knows what impact his contract will have on a trade. it's one thing to give that kind of money out on an extension or to an FA....it's entirely different to take that money on, while at the same time sending several valuable assets back in return.

IMO, it takes a lot of value away from the player (relatively speaking).......but in reality, nobody knows.
- sensarmy_11

Luongo wanted out, only wanted to go to Florida, and plays a lower value position(in terms of the trade market).


Not exactly a comparable. Carter and Richards are much better comparables.

Dale did a super job signing him long term, he's not being traded.
- PanthersGoal

I know!

no way you trade huberdeau for kessel straight up let alone a first and bergenheim. if huberdeau is included M.R. is coming back the other way... a fair trade would be kessel, Phaneuf and Reilly for huberdeau, kulikov and a 1st. id say thats a wash across the board and all the players get a change of scenery.
- boltsfan48

You really have to stay away from your own stash...that's for the crack heads!!now stop being under the influence ,get your head out if the clouds and smartin the (frank) up...Kessel is a top 5 scorer,,he is a great passer and very fast,he is not injury prone

Says the guy with the cute doggie picture.
- PanthersGoal

Don't you try flattering your way out of this one, you perfectly reasonable poster.





Wait what?

You really have to stay away from your own stash...that's for the crack heads!!now stop being under the influence ,get your head out if the clouds and smartin the (frank) up...Kessel is a top 5 scorer,,he is a great passer and very fast,he is not injury prone
- Daddichronic

And makes Florida a contender at the rite time for Florida

Dale did a super job signing Bolland long term, he's not being traded.
- PanthersGoal

Fixed

Says the guy with the cute doggie picture.
- PanthersGoal

Much better than the previous eyebrows picture....

Dale did a super job signing him long term, he's not being traded.
- PanthersGoal

It was risky, but looks good so far. Could well be the forward equivalent of the Josi contract

Luongo wanted out, only wanted to go to Florida, and plays a lower value position(in terms of the trade market).


Not exactly a comparable. Carter and Richards are much better comparables.
- Feeling Glucky?

even they aren't good comparables, as their cap hits are around 3mil less than kessel's.

there really aren't any good comparables......that was kind of my point. nobody really knows the impact that his contract will have on his trade value.

personally (and it's just my opinion), i think it will be a relatively significant impact....unless the leafs are willing to eat some salary.

Did not read
- Iggysbff

Kessel is not going to Florida
done

a whole lot of Sheen winning going on in here

even they aren't good comparables, as their cap hits are around 3mil less than kessel's.

there really aren't any good comparables......that was kind of my point. nobody really knows the impact that his contract will have on his trade value.

personally (and it's just my opinion), i think it will be a relatively significant impact....unless the leafs are willing to eat some salary.
- sensarmy_11

No, they're good comparables. Their cap hits were closer to Kessel's than the numbers indicate at face value, because they were signed when the cap was lower, and they never showed the season by season high end offensive ability Kessel has.

even they aren't good comparables, as their cap hits are around 3mil less than kessel's.

there really aren't any good comparables......that was kind of my point. nobody really knows the impact that his contract will have on his trade value.

personally (and it's just my opinion), i think it will be a relatively significant impact....unless the leafs are willing to eat some salary.
- sensarmy_11

I think Kessel brings a 1st, top prospect and a roster player. Talent,skill and upside of said roster player is to be determined.

As for Carter and Richards I think they are comparable. Long term deals at hefty cap hits. We can't compare their cap hits to Kessels as it was done at a time of a different ceiling of cap.

Kessel is not going to Florida
done

a whole lot of Sheen winning going on in here
- the_eye

I agree. Then again, I've been wrong before. Like this one time at band camp......

I agree. Then again, I've been wrong before. Like this one time at band camp......
- Panthers88

that was wrong, but you had to know

Leave it. Later clown.
- PanthersGoal

And everyone says leaf fans are homers ?

that was wrong, but you had to know
- the_eye

Not to mention how right it felt...

I agree. Then again, I've been wrong before. Like this one time at band camp......
- Panthers88

Is that like when you're camping, sharing a tent with dudes, and it gets way colder at night than anticipated...

Kessel is not going to Florida
done

a whole lot of Sheen winning going on in here
- the_eye

kessel would look so much better with a tan

Is that like when you're camping, sharing a tent with dudes, and it gets way colder at night than anticipated...
- TonkaPhaneuf

They said I was their blanket!

kessel would look so much better with a tan
- Flyfreaky