It's easy to say Sather should've signed him to a deal earlier this season but 10 days ago everyone here was ready to let him walk or trade him. I do agree that a deal should've been worked out over the summer, but he would've commanded Brassard-like money (close to $6M a year) coming off his performance last season so there was just no way. And before someone says "well if we didn't sign Glass, we could've afford to pay him $6M a year"....no, we couldn't.
- rangerdanger94

Almost everyone I have been advocating signing him all year. To me, the wild card is really MSL, as to how much he wants, e.g. if he is willing to accept an incentive-laden deal and how badly does he want to stay with the Rangers.

http://deadspin.com/where...ook&utm_medium=socialflow

Sorry guys. I don't see Zucc as a $6M player. MSL will have to take one heck of a team friendly deal to return.

This being the case what do you guys think of going all in, pull a sign and trade of Zucc, along with Moore,+ for Kessel?

Here's the thought (cap crunching TBD obviously):

Kessel is an upgrade over MSL or Zucc and may be the type of player to put the Rangers over the top this season.

Would you rather have Zucc at $6M or Kessel at $8M?...both are 27 years old

Puts pressure on MSL to take a hefty cut to stay given the cap crunch situation as well as the real possibility of winning another cup (or two if they win this year)

Teams cannot just focus on Nash anymore. No one wants to leave a guy who has scored 30 goals in each of the last 5 full seasons (soon to be 6) running wild against bottom pairing D.

Stepan and Brassard are both playmakers more than scorers. Now each of them can have true scorers in their prime to work with at their side

Kreider, Nash, MSL, Kessel, Stepan, Brassard? That is scary before you even get to Hagelin, Hayes, and Miller who are on fire.

Worst case scenario, thank Kessel in advance for his service this year while we have some LTIR space and trade him at the draft.

Sorry guys. I don't see Zucc as a $6M player. MSL will have to take one heck of a team friendly deal to return.

This being the case what do you guys think of going all in, pull a sign and trade of Zucc, along with Moore,+ for Kessel?

Here's the thought (cap crunching TBD obviously):

Kessel is an upgrade over MSL or Zucc and may be the type of player to put the Rangers over the top this season.

Would you rather have Zucc at $6M or Kessel at $8M?...both are 27 years old

Puts pressure on MSL to take a hefty cut to stay given the cap crunch situation as well as the real possibility of winning another cup (or two if they win this year)

Teams cannot just focus on Nash anymore. No one wants to leave a guy who has scored 30 goals in each of the last 5 full seasons (soon to be 6) running wild against bottom pairing D.

Stepan and Brassard are both playmakers more than scorers. Now each of them can have true scorers in their prime to work with at their side

Kreider, Nash, MSL, Kessel, Stepan, Brassard? That is scary before you even get to Hagelin, Hayes, and Miller who are on fire.

Worst case scenario, thank Kessel in advance for his service this year while we have some LTIR space and trade him at the draft.
- Maskdman3

Not even a question. It's Zuccarello. Look at teams that Kessel is on. They never ever win. He doesn't back check and he's horrid when rarely seen in the defensive zone. If Kessel played with Zucc's type of willingness, he'd be the best player in the world. He doesn't care. that's when he'll soon be on his 3rd team.

Sorry guys. I don't see Zucc as a $6M player. MSL will have to take one heck of a team friendly deal to return.

This being the case what do you guys think of going all in, pull a sign and trade of Zucc, along with Moore,+ for Kessel?

Here's the thought (cap crunching TBD obviously):

Kessel is an upgrade over MSL or Zucc and may be the type of player to put the Rangers over the top this season.

Would you rather have Zucc at $6M or Kessel at $8M?...both are 27 years old

Puts pressure on MSL to take a hefty cut to stay given the cap crunch situation as well as the real possibility of winning another cup (or two if they win this year)

Teams cannot just focus on Nash anymore. No one wants to leave a guy who has scored 30 goals in each of the last 5 full seasons (soon to be 6) running wild against bottom pairing D.

Stepan and Brassard are both playmakers more than scorers. Now each of them can have true scorers in their prime to work with at their side

Kreider, Nash, MSL, Kessel, Stepan, Brassard? That is scary before you even get to Hagelin, Hayes, and Miller who are on fire.

Worst case scenario, thank Kessel in advance for his service this year while we have some LTIR space and trade him at the draft.
- Maskdman3

I'd want no part of Kessel, no thank you! He doesn't put us over the top, a one dimensional player who's a major liability on the defensive end. We need balance throughout, 4 really solid lines that can come in waves.

Regarding Zucc, not sure he'll get anything close to $5 mil from Sather. And I'm not sure how he can ask for that still being so inconsistent, he might not even reach 50 points. $5m mil for a 40ish point guy?

I'd want no part of Kessel, no thank you! He doesn't put us over the top, a one dimensional player who's a major liability on the defensive end. We need balance throughout, 4 really solid lines that can come in waves.

Regarding Zucc, not sure he'll get anything close to $5 mil from Sather. And I'm not sure how he can ask for that still being so inconsistent, he might not even reach 50 points. $5m mil for a 40ish point guy?
- MatzCT

Led the team last year with 57 points, so he can do it. Up to his point in time he's a .63 ppg player in the NHL. Those numbers will never come cheap.

Led the team last year with 57 points, so he can do it. Up to his point in time he's a .63 ppg player in the NHL. Those numbers will never come cheap.
- tomburton99

I realize he's done it once (he had 59), that's why I brought up the 50 point mark. I'm just saying that Sather usually pays for consistency and proven performance, and Zucc is currently at 32. That's why I think he'll again play hardball with him.

The first 23 shooters in the Bos/Edm game missed before Martin Marincin scored to end it as the 24th shooter

Sorry guys. I don't see Zucc as a $6M player. MSL will have to take one heck of a team friendly deal to return.

This being the case what do you guys think of going all in, pull a sign and trade of Zucc, along with Moore,+ for Kessel?

Here's the thought (cap crunching TBD obviously):

Kessel is an upgrade over MSL or Zucc and may be the type of player to put the Rangers over the top this season.

Would you rather have Zucc at $6M or Kessel at $8M?...both are 27 years old

Puts pressure on MSL to take a hefty cut to stay given the cap crunch situation as well as the real possibility of winning another cup (or two if they win this year)

Teams cannot just focus on Nash anymore. No one wants to leave a guy who has scored 30 goals in each of the last 5 full seasons (soon to be 6) running wild against bottom pairing D.

Stepan and Brassard are both playmakers more than scorers. Now each of them can have true scorers in their prime to work with at their side

Kreider, Nash, MSL, Kessel, Stepan, Brassard? That is scary before you even get to Hagelin, Hayes, and Miller who are on fire.

Worst case scenario, thank Kessel in advance for his service this year while we have some LTIR space and trade him at the draft.
- Maskdman3

Zucc's salary wouldn't go into effect until next season but I'm personally not paying even $5 million, as for Kessel the only way we could get that salary under the cap is trading Nash and I would't trade JT Miller for Kessel, I hate that fat turd, tremendous talent and shot with the work ethic of a homeless person

Sorry guys. I don't see Zucc as a $6M player. MSL will have to take one heck of a team friendly deal to return.

This being the case what do you guys think of going all in, pull a sign and trade of Zucc, along with Moore,+ for Kessel?

Here's the thought (cap crunching TBD obviously):

Kessel is an upgrade over MSL or Zucc and may be the type of player to put the Rangers over the top this season.

Would you rather have Zucc at $6M or Kessel at $8M?...both are 27 years old

Puts pressure on MSL to take a hefty cut to stay given the cap crunch situation as well as the real possibility of winning another cup (or two if they win this year)

Teams cannot just focus on Nash anymore. No one wants to leave a guy who has scored 30 goals in each of the last 5 full seasons (soon to be 6) running wild against bottom pairing D.

Stepan and Brassard are both playmakers more than scorers. Now each of them can have true scorers in their prime to work with at their side

Kreider, Nash, MSL, Kessel, Stepan, Brassard? That is scary before you even get to Hagelin, Hayes, and Miller who are on fire.

Worst case scenario, thank Kessel in advance for his service this year while we have some LTIR space and trade him at the draft.
- Maskdman3

c'mom man, we aren't trading for Kessel, Jesus Christ already

The first 23 shooters in the Bos/Edm game missed before Martin Marincin scored to end it as the 24th shooter
- nyrangers9479

man the Bruins are terrible, that's why the Devils still think they are in the playoff hunt.

Which is great, I hope the Devils get nothing for their team of 35 year olds

I could be wrong but don't see the Rangers moving their 2016 first rounder, nor do I see them dealing Miller.
- airjan23

Agreed. Maybe Miller but not for a rental...ROR perhaps?

The first 23 shooters in the Bos/Edm game missed before Martin Marincin scored to end it as the 24th shooter
- nyrangers9479

Boston just hit rock bottom

I think Boychuk to them was what Marc Staal is to us. Basically, a top pairing caliber 25 minute a night defenseman capable of shutting down the top offensive players in the league but playing on the "2nd pairing" due to depth. They dealt him and all of a sudden went from one of the top defensive teams in the league thanks to that depth to average or even below average. That was my argument for the past year and a half against trading Staal or Girardi....with those 2 plus McDonagh, we have 3 top-pairing defensemen on our team. You deal just one of them and our defense turns really average really quickly.

Boston just hit rock bottom

I think Boychuk to them was what Marc Staal is to us. Basically, a top pairing caliber 25 minute a night defenseman capable of shutting down the top offensive players in the league but playing on the "2nd pairing" due to depth. They dealt him and all of a sudden went from one of the top defensive teams in the league thanks to that depth to average or even below average. That was my argument for the past year and a half against trading Staal or Girardi....with those 2 plus McDonagh, we have 3 top-pairing defensemen on our team. You deal just one of them and our defense turns really average really quickly.
- rangerdanger94

I said from the start the smart move was to move 38 year old Chara

With Boston in free fall mode, no way Florida sells off before the deadline

With Boston in free fall mode, no way Florida sells off before the deadline
- TPC

yeah, but I still think they'll trade Bergenheim because he asked for a trade.

I would love to play Florida in the playoffs. I have family that lives right there, could easily fly down there and go to the games.

yeah, but I still think they'll trade Bergenheim because he asked for a trade.

I would love to play Florida in the playoffs. I have family that lives right there, could easily fly down there and go to the games.
- jimbro83

Is he a UFA at the end of the season? If I was the Florida GM I would keep him for the stretch run for depth and try to trade him in the offseason if he is still under contract.

Is he a UFA at the end of the season? If I was the Florida GM I would keep him for the stretch run for depth and try to trade him in the offseason if he is still under contract.
- TPC

UFA

Is he a UFA at the end of the season? If I was the Florida GM I would keep him for the stretch run for depth and try to trade him in the offseason if he is still under contract.
- TPC

UFA I think

UFA
- KreiderBomb

Florida will likely want an NHL roster player coming back in the deal though. Would you do the trade if it's bergenheim and a 4th for Fast?

Or maybe they'd take Stempniak and a 4th for Bergy straight up?

I said from the start the smart move was to move 38 year old Chara
- KreiderBomb

Chara has 3 more years on his contract with a full no movement clause though, don't know if it's possible.

here is a link to the full no trade clause list in NHL

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/no_trade_list.html

Chara has 3 more years on his contract with a full no movement clause though, don't know if it's possible.

here is a link to the full no trade clause list in NHL

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/no_trade_list.html
- jimbro83

I miss cap geek

I miss cap geek
- TPC

it sucks, we took it for such granted

Florida will likely want an NHL roster player coming back in the deal though. Would you do the trade if it's bergenheim and a 4th for Fast?
- rangerdanger94

No I wouldn't trade Fast at this point, I'd trade a 3rd and a prospect like Kristo or Bourque

it sucks, we took it for such granted
- jimbro83

I wonder if they closed it up to honor the founder of it or if he was just so good that no one could run it like him