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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Feb 18 @ 8:39 PM ET
That turnover by Vinny was absolutey brutal. My heart sunk. It was like I watched the last lititle chance we had at the playoffs wither away right before my eyes....
- mochoson


AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 18 @ 8:48 PM ET
That turnover by Vinny was absolutey brutal. My heart sunk. It was like I watched the last lititle chance we had at the playoffs wither away right before my eyes....
- mochoson


It was a soul-crusher

Won't lie: I kinda sat there for a second, numb and dazed

He wasn't the only one to turn the puck over, so I'm not singling him out. But that one was a straight-up gut punch
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 18 @ 8:52 PM ET
It was a soul-crusher

Won't lie: I kinda sat there for a second, numb and dazed

He wasn't the only one to turn the puck over, so I'm not singling him out. But that one was a straight-up gut punch

- AllInForFlyers


Exactly. Kinda just stared at the TV with my mouth open in shok and disappointment
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 18 @ 8:53 PM ET
It was a soul-crusher

Won't lie: I kinda sat there for a second, numb and dazed

He wasn't the only one to turn the puck over, so I'm not singling him out. But that one was a straight-up gut punch

- AllInForFlyers


I was pissed. (frank)ing Jackets were sitting on that pass all Goddamned night. The Flyers reviewed it in their video session, as Lecavalier and others said.

What really sucks is, that might have been the best overall game they had played in the last 4 or 5, and they came away empty handed.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:01 PM ET
I was pissed. (frank)ing Jackets were sitting on that pass all Goddamned night. The Flyers reviewed it in their video session, as Lecavalier and others said.

What really sucks is, that might have been the best overall game they had played in the last 4 or 5, and they came away empty handed.

- Jsaquella


they were skating circles around them for several solid minutes prior. timing was horrific.

IMHO
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 18 @ 9:02 PM ET
they were skating circles around them for several solid minutes prior. timing was horrific.

IMHO

- -davies-


Yep, it crushed them. They couldn't sustain anything for awhile after that.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:04 PM ET
I'm a glutton for punishment I guess.
- Hextall271

You need to go glutton free
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:10 PM ET
I was pissed. (frank)ing Jackets were sitting on that pass all Goddamned night. The Flyers reviewed it in their video session, as Lecavalier and others said.

What really sucks is, that might have been the best overall game they had played in the last 4 or 5, and they came away empty handed.

- Jsaquella


Brutal in the first, but much better in the second and most of the third
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:14 PM ET
You need to go glutton free
- vejim



i lolled
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 18 @ 9:17 PM ET
Brutal in the first, but much better in the second and most of the third
- AllInForFlyers


More breakdowns than brutal in the first. They had some chances and got burned on breakdowns rather than the sustained pressure that Montreal was getting, for example
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:30 PM ET
More breakdowns than brutal in the first. They had some chances and got burned on breakdowns rather than the sustained pressure that Montreal was getting, for example
- Jsaquella


Fair enough; hate seeing them hemmed up like that.

Don't hold out much hope, but maybe Edmonton does us a solid tonight

Yeah, I know...eight points out, it is
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 18 @ 9:53 PM ET
Uncle Lou is posturing.
- MJL

decorticate posturing
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 18 @ 9:56 PM ET
happy for schultz

will be happier when they re-up mdz

missed my first game of the season last night, good one to miss by the sound of things
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 18 @ 10:02 PM ET
happy for schultz

will be happier when they re-up mdz

missed my first game of the season last night, good one to miss by the sound of things

- Marc D


hopefully mdz squeezes out a few more dimes than 2.5 per
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
hopefully mdz squeezes out a few more dimes than 2.5 per
- stayinthefnnet


Not much more or he can walk on an offer sheet. We'll take the 1st round + compensation
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Feb 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
hopefully mdz squeezes out a few more dimes than 2.5 per
- stayinthefnnet


Didn't his negotiation with Rangers get pretty testy? I dont see him coming back for what he made this season that's for sure. I know he is still RFA but I would expect his yearly salary to have a 3 in front of it. Which is fair since big Schenn is making what 3.5 per
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 18 @ 10:10 PM ET
I was pissed. (frank)ing Jackets were sitting on that pass all Goddamned night. The Flyers reviewed it in their video session, as Lecavalier and others said.

What really sucks is, that might have been the best overall game they had played in the last 4 or 5, and they came away empty handed.

- Jsaquella


The radio call made no mention of the vinny turnover
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 18 @ 10:12 PM ET
Not much more or he can walk on an offer sheet. We'll take the 1st round + compensation
- Just5


yeah true. i could be wrong but doesnt it go up from 2nd and then once it gets to around 3.5 or so, it jumps up to a first and a third?

i really cant see someone wanting to give up a first and third for him. he has played pretty well, but thats a decent investment for such a quick turnaround.

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 18 @ 10:13 PM ET
hopefully mdz squeezes out a few more dimes than 2.5 per
- stayinthefnnet

On a 1 yr deal don't look for too much more

If they decide to offer a multi yr deal then it will be more certainly
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
yeah true. i could be wrong but doesnt it go up from 2nd and then once it gets to around 3.5 or so, it jumps up to a first and a third?

i really cant see someone wanting to give up a first and third for him. he has played pretty well, but thats a decent investment for such a quick turnaround.

- stayinthefnnet


Yea I doubt anyone would too. I kinda just want him back on another 1 year deal.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 10:16 PM ET
hopefully mdz squeezes out a few more dimes than 2.5 per
- stayinthefnnet


That'd be the max or I'd sit tight and tell him go out and find something better & review it at that time.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 18 @ 10:21 PM ET
Yea I doubt anyone would too. I kinda just want him back on another 1 year deal.
- Just5


i know.

its tough to say. i sure as hell dont know what hes thinking.

does he do another one year bridge type deal now and really try to showcase himself in the hopes that his next deal is a bigger one, or does he look for 3 years or so right around 3?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 18 @ 10:24 PM ET
That'd be the max or I'd sit tight and tell him go out and find something better & review it at that time.
- ob18


should he leave/be traded, how close do you think that ghost can come to filling his role next year?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 18 @ 10:25 PM ET
i know.

its tough to say. i sure as hell dont know what hes thinking.

does he do another one year bridge type deal now and really try to showcase himself in the hopes that his next deal is a bigger one, or does he look for 3 years or so right around 3?

- stayinthefnnet

I don't think the Flyers will offer more then a 2 yr deal to him at this point.

He may be stuck accepting a 1 yr deal and trying to showcase for the big UFA deal the following year.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 18 @ 10:27 PM ET
should he leave/be traded, how close do you think that ghost can come to filling his role next year?
- stayinthefnnet

I don't see Ghost stepping right in next year.

Ideally he has most of next season in the AHL with some call ups as needed.
To count on him as a regular next year would be a mistake I believe.
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