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Ogilthorpe2
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Feb 17 @ 10:58 PM ET
Blowing anybody wearing a Blues uniform.
- wonthecup10

Oh.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Feb 17 @ 11:00 PM ET
Oh.
- Ogilthorpe2



Gotta catch up with the modern lingo Ogie. Its 2015! Gotta say Pang has become one of my least favorite people to listen to when its comes to game coverage. He is f'n rediculous.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 17 @ 11:11 PM ET
Well the Nashville Smoke and Mirrors smoked the sharks tonight 5-1 and 15-3-3 since Jan 1. And have won 6 in a row only giving up 9 goals.

These guys are the real deal...minimal playoff experience? Yep! No real studs on the forward line? Yep! But all they do is win!

- bogiedoc



The Canucks used to tear up the regular season too with their great special teams and goaltending .

The Preds do not have enough up front .

Where is LBR ? How many goals are they getting from their D men ? A lot right ?

bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 17 @ 11:17 PM ET
Q's presser today when asked about where the Hawks are at:

1. We like our team

2. All areas we have depth

3. Balance and scoring on all our lines.

4. Deeper goaltending.

But we need to better.....
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 17 @ 11:20 PM ET
The Canucks used to tear up the regular season too with their great special teams and goaltending .

The Preds do not have enough up front .

Where is LBR ? How many goals are they getting from their D men ? A lot right ?

- mrpaulish


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Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 17 @ 11:28 PM ET
Just for perspective sake, re: "don't trade away the future", 12 years of the future:

1998 Mark Bell 8th overall OK 3rd line player
1999 Steve McCarthy 23rd overall 55 points in 302 NHL games
2000 Mikhail Yakubov 10th overall 40 NHL games BUST
2000 Pavel Vorobiev 11th overall 57 NHL games BUST
2001 Tuomo Ruutu 9th overall OK top 6 forward
2001 Adam Munro 29th overall 17 NHL games BUST
2002 Anton Babchuk 21st overall OK 4-5 defenseman
2003 Brent Seabrook 14th overall NHL All Star HIT
2004 Cam Barker 3rd overall fringe NHL player BUST
2005 Jack Skille 7th overall 4th line journeyman BUST
2006 Jonathan Toews 3rd overall Franchise player HIT
2007 Patrick Kane 1st overall Elite player HIT
2008 Kyle Beach 11th overall 0 NHL games BUST
2009 Dylan Olsen 28th overall In AHL, fringe NHLer BUST?
2010 Kevin Hayes 24th overall Rangers, decent rookie yr HIT

- John Jaeckel


The list above is why given the chance almost every GM in the NHL would sacrifice a prospect or two to win a Cup.

The question isn't if to make the sacrifice but when.

On Twitter@AlCimaglia
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Feb 17 @ 11:28 PM ET
Rousell and jackass went at it....I hate jackman....
Ogilthorpe2
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Feb 17 @ 11:29 PM ET
Rousell and jackass went at it....I hate jackman....
- southernhawk

Those two deserve each other. I hope they concussed each other.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 17 @ 11:30 PM ET
Rousell and jackass went at it....I hate jackman....
- southernhawk

I was hoping they would knock each other out and both woke up two weeks later.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Feb 17 @ 11:33 PM ET
Those two deserve each other. I hope they concussed each other.
- Ogilthorpe2



I dont like either one....lol but funny thing....I was pulling fot Rousell....I cant cheer for anything in a blues jersey....except maybe a suicide bomber....in a blues jersey...thats a win win...
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 17 @ 11:35 PM ET
Eh, the timing of a Sharp trade either now or in the off-season will have no impact on signing Seabrook.

It's really simple imo. Moving Sharp in-season is not going to return his value/what CHI needs now. The teams that need Sharp now also need what CHI needs (a defenseman, maybe a center). The bottom-feeder teams that have the assets CHI needs do not need Sharp right now. And please do not counter with Eller-Emelin; one is bigger but less physical than our current 3C and the other is physical but slow and just really not good.

- L_B_R


Most people look for equal value in a trade with their favorite team....That's not the case here.

If Sharp is dealt it won't be for 1 or 2 or 3 players equally his value. It will be for hopes and dreams as in picks/prospects otherwise the math doesn't work. This will be a salary dump trade and when your looking at return see the package that was sent here in the Campbell and Leddy trades.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Feb 17 @ 11:37 PM ET
Those two deserve each other. I hope they concussed each other.
- Ogilthorpe2



http://youtu.be/bah-iUtSdAU
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Feb 17 @ 11:38 PM ET
Gotta catch up with the modern lingo Ogie. Its 2015! Gotta say Pang has become one of my least favorite people to listen to when its comes to game coverage. He is f'n rediculous.
- z1990z


Didn't Pang call Seabs a "cheap shot" artist a couple years ago?
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
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Feb 17 @ 11:39 PM ET
Roussel chased jackass 130ft before jackass would dropem
Ogilthorpe2
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Feb 17 @ 11:39 PM ET
Remember that day?
- Elbows15



Epic.
Ogilthorpe2
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Feb 17 @ 11:40 PM ET
Didn't Pang call Seabs one a "cheap shot" artist a couple years ago?
- ArlingtonRob

Apparently he was choking on something at the time.
Ogilthorpe2
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Feb 17 @ 11:40 PM ET
Douchssel chased jackass 130ft before jackass would dropem
- southernhawk

Fixed.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
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Feb 17 @ 11:41 PM ET
Fixed.
- Ogilthorpe2

Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 17 @ 11:48 PM ET
Most people look for equal value in a trade with their favorite team....That's not the case here.

If Sharp is dealt it won't be for 1 or 2 or 3 players equally his value
. It will be for hopes and dreams as in picks/prospects otherwise the math doesn't work. This will be a salary dump trade and when your looking at return see the package that was sent here in the Campbell and Leddy trades.

- Al

that would be unrealistic to say the least.

Campbell was a pure salary dump. As far as Leddy goes, I am not sure what people expected for a 6th D who didn't progress far enough to not be benched in the playoffs. People can point to his age all they want but the fact remains he had almost 300 games of NHL experience and should have progressed far enough to be able to play minimal minutes in big games. Well, we saw what happened when he had to play. It wasn't pretty.

For all the praise he gets his pace has fallen since the middle of December and he is on the 1st pair for the worse defensiive team in the league.
Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Feb 17 @ 11:50 PM ET
Didn't Pang call Seabs one a "cheap shot" artist a couple years ago?
- ArlingtonRob

Pang is a twit.
Ogilthorpe2
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Feb 17 @ 11:52 PM ET
that would be unrealistic to say the least.

Campbell was a pure salary dump. As far as Leddy goes, I am not sure what people expected for a 6th D who didn't progress far enough to not be benched in the playoffs. People can point to his age all they want but the fact remains he had almost 300 games of NHL experience and should have progressed far enough to be able to play minimal minutes in big games. Well, we saw what happened when he had to play. It wasn't pretty.

For all the praise he gets his pace has fallen since the middle of December and he is on the 1st pair for the worse defensiive team in the league.

- Elbows15

I'm not sure I see the correlation.
Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Feb 17 @ 11:55 PM ET
I'm not sure I see the correlation.
- Ogilthorpe2

you're not alone.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 17 @ 11:55 PM ET
that would be unrealistic to say the least.

Campbell was a pure salary dump. As far as Leddy goes, I am not sure what people expected for a 6th D who didn't progress far enough to not be benched in the playoffs. People can point to his age all they want but the fact remains he had almost 300 games of NHL experience and should have progressed far enough to be able to play minimal minutes in big games. Well, we saw what happened when he had to play. It wasn't pretty.

For all the praise he gets his pace has fallen since the middle of December and he is on the 1st pair for the worse defensiive team in the league.

- Elbows15


Leddy was a salary dump no matter what you think of him and the same with Campbell.
My point remains the same...Sharp isn't going to be traded for a roster player near his value.
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Feb 17 @ 11:58 PM ET
Leddy was a salary dump no matter what you think of him and the same with Campbell.
My point remains the same...Sharp isn't going to be traded for a roster player near his value.

- Al

Which is why it makes no sense to trade him until the summer, if at all.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 17 @ 11:59 PM ET
Which is why it makes no sense to trade him until the summer, if at all.
- Ogilthorpe2


Indeed...


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