Sharp, Prospect and Draft pick.
- EnzoD

Thank the (frank)ing lord you're not our GM.
- CBHawks88

Amen to that!

Sharp, Prospect and Draft pick.
- EnzoD

Does trading Sharp for Vermette make the team any better for long playoff run? I don't see Stan trading one forward for another, that doesn't make sense. I know Stan needs to dump some salary, but I see that being done in the off season, not now.

Stan's not the type of GM to acquire a short term rental of any significance. Even Oduya and Handzus were re-signed after they were acquired.

The team's immediate need is defense, guys like Wiericoch (one more season then RFA), Gryba (one more season then UFA) and Borowiecki (3 more seasons then UFA) make more sense.

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I wish capgeek was here


If it were Shaw prospect and a #1 pick . Arizona.could retain 1.5 m making Shaw and Vermettes cap hits a wash right ?
- mrpaulish

2015 Roster

Toews 10.5 Saad 4.5? Hossa 5.275= 20.275
open $ Kane 10.5 open $ = 10.5
Shaw 2.0 Versteeg 2.2 TT .895 = 5.095
Kreuger 2.2? Smith 1.5 open $ = 3.7
Seabrook Keith =11.34
Hjalmarsson open $ =4.1
TVR open $ = .925
CC Darling/Raanta 6.75

62.69 spoken for 9M or less to fill 3 fowards and 2 d men,
With Richards, Oduya gone for nothing and Bickell, Sharp for
prosepct/picks. At least 2 Ice hog D men are up next year 1.54 million
and 2 O men 1.73 million
That leaves just over 5 million for one experienced Dman and Oman
and raise for Seabs (which needs to be done this off season)
Say hello to your Chicago RockHawks

Edit 5% escalator 69.258 still need Oman,Dman Seabrook raise, SB's Cap hell nightmare. So moving Bic/Sharp for anything more than prospect picks =rental

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2015 Roster

Toews 10.5 Saad 4.5? Hossa 5.275= 20.275
open $ Kane 10.5 open $ = 10.5
Shaw 2.0 Versteeg 2.2 TT .895 = 5.095
Kreuger 2.2? Smith 1.5 open $ = 3.7
Seabrook Keith =11.34
Hjalmarsson open $ =4.1
TVR open $ = .925
CC Darling/Raanta 6.75

62.69 spoken for 9M or less to fill 3 fowards and 2 d men,
With Richards, Oduya gone for nothing and Bickell, Sharp for
prosepct/picks. At least 2 Ice hog D men are up next year 1.54 million
and 2 O men 1.73 million
That leaves just over 5 million for one experienced Dman and Oman
and raise for Seabs (which needs to be done this off season)
Say hello to your Chicago RockHawks

Edit 5% escalator 69.258 still need Oman,Dman Seabrook raise, SB's Cap hell nightmare. So moving Bic/Sharp for anything more than prospect picks =rental
- Cup-Bearer

Seabs new contract wouldn't hit the books until 2016

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- Al

Please post link or come back and sum it up lae
ter. No XM at work....

Seabs new contract wouldn't hit the books until 2016
- CBHawks88

I stand corrected, but need to take care of that this offseason.

I stand corrected, but need to take care of that this offseason.
- Cup-Bearer

No doubt.

Does trading Sharp for Vermette make the team any better for long playoff run? I don't see Stan trading one forward for another, that doesn't make sense. I know Stan needs to dump some salary, but I see that being done in the off season, not now.

Stan's not the type of GM to acquire a short term rental of any significance. Even Oduya and Handzus were re-signed after they were acquired.

The team's immediate need is defense, guys like Wiericoch (one more season then RFA), Gryba (one more season then UFA) and Borowiecki (3 more seasons then UFA) make more sense.
- DarthKane

Some fans get frustrated with Bowman's refusal to make the huge deal. Quite frankly the way he makes trades, as you point out, is the right way to do it. Factoring in the long and short term benefits is exactly what we want, or should want, as fans. I believe if there was a short term deal that would give the Hawks a real good chance in the playoff that he couldn't pass up, that Bowman would make it.

There are plenty of great candidates at HB. Think of how much fun it would be, we'd have a trade every day and blockbusters on a weekly basis. The star players would all have great contracts with great term and when Toews or Kane go three games with only 2 points they could be traded. Of course the team the Hawks trade with would retain salary in every deal and would send back triple the value of the player they received. The Hawks would have 4 first lines, 3 sets of first pairing defense, 2 number one goalies. And best of all the team would have cap space!!! The New GM could fire Q, hire Babcock and then when Babcock does something not liked by the HB Board he could be fired and Q rehired. I figure this could be done all season. When it comes to the draft I figure with all the deals the Hawks would win the draft lottery against themselves as they would have 27 of 30 picks including the first 15. Why are the Hawks messing around with the hired help when the HB community could run the Hawks like clockwork?
- paulr[/quote

Brilliant! All of it! The sinking ship that is the Blackhawks will finally be set on course.

Thank the (frank)ing lord you're not our GM.
- CBHawks88

We are going to get nothing for Sharp this summer so we'll see who's laughing when StanBo ships Sharp for a former 1st round bust like Tim Erixson or David Rundblad. Vermette is exactly what the doctor ordered for the Hawks. A career AHL player and a mid round draft pick is well worth it if the Hawks win the cup. Considering what teams have given up for Jagr, Iginla and other deadline rentals who are past their prime, Vermette for that price is very fair (but probably not enough for the Yotes GM)

We are going to get nothing for Sharp this summer so we'll see who's laughing when StanBo ships Sharp for a former 1st round bust like Tim Erixson or David Rundblad. Vermette is exactly what the doctor ordered for the Hawks. A career AHL player and a mid round draft pick is well worth it if the Hawks win the cup. Considering what teams have given up for Jagr, Iginla and other deadline rentals who are past their prime, Vermette for that price is very fair (but probably not enough for the Yotes GM)
- EnzoD

Did those teams who got Jägr and Iginla win the cup afterwards? Didn't think so.

We are going to get nothing for Sharp this summer so we'll see who's laughing when StanBo ships Sharp for a former 1st round bust like Tim Erixson or David Rundblad. Vermette is exactly what the doctor ordered for the Hawks. A career AHL player and a mid round draft pick is well worth it if the Hawks win the cup. Considering what teams have given up for Jagr, Iginla and other deadline rentals who are past their prime, Vermette for that price is very fair (but probably not enough for the Yotes GM)
- EnzoD

Will that laughter be on condition of a cup win?

Please post link or come back and sum it up lae
ter. No XM at work....
- mrpaulish

I will post on Twitter as well...

its the trade deadline, everything is an overpay. Also, I didnt said the draft pick and prospect would be high value assets going the other way. How about a mid-level prospect and 3rd/4th round pick? I'd take it given Sharp's current role on the team.
- EnzoD

You realize it's literally been 3 games since Sharp was playing on the 2nd and producing, yeah? And he played with them most of the 3rd against PIT and some of the game against VAN. Sharp is still 4th among forwards in terms of TOI/GP and 3rd for even strength time (which is 2-3 minutes more ev time than Saad and Versteeg).

But yeah, let's give him away for a 2 month rental and throw in a pick and prospects too.

We are going to get nothing for Sharp this summer so we'll see who's laughing when StanBo ships Sharp for a former 1st round bust like Tim Erixson or David Rundblad. Vermette is exactly what the doctor ordered for the Hawks. A career AHL player and a mid round draft pick is well worth it if the Hawks win the cup. Considering what teams have given up for Jagr, Iginla and other deadline rentals who are past their prime, Vermette for that price is very fair (but probably not enough for the Yotes GM)
- EnzoD

How does Vermette fill the Hawks needs? Is it 2011? Are we still looking for a 2C? He's also a UFA when the season ends, so we will have traded Sharp+ for nothing.

Did those teams who got Jägr and Iginla win the cup afterwards? Didn't think so.
- biegs

Yeah! But those teams DID make a trade! What's more important to you, a cup win or a trade, especially a trade that wows the fans?? Get your priorities straight!

We are going to get nothing for Sharp this summer so we'll see who's laughing when StanBo ships Sharp for a former 1st round bust like Tim Erixson or David Rundblad. Vermette is exactly what the doctor ordered for the Hawks. A career AHL player and a mid round draft pick is well worth it if the Hawks win the cup. Considering what teams have given up for Jagr, Iginla and other deadline rentals who are past their prime, Vermette for that price is very fair (but probably not enough for the Yotes GM)
- EnzoD

Why would a Hawks fan be laughing about a situation that is bad for the team? Just because you might have been right on a message board once. Dude.

Also, how did those trades for Jagr and Iginla work out for those teams? Oh that's right, the team that made only a minor move won that year. On top of that, one of those teams had to trade an extremely gifted player and one of those GMs is without a job now too. Fancy that.

You realize it's literally been 3 games since Sharp was playing on the 2nd and producing, yeah? And he played with them most of the 3rd against PIT and some of the game against VAN. Sharp is still 4th among forwards in terms of TOI/GP and 3rd for even strength time (which is 2-3 minutes more ev time than Saad and Versteeg).

But yeah, let's give him away for a 2 month rental and throw in a pick and prospects too.
- L_B_R

You may have to do that next year anyways, minus the rental coming back.

Did those teams who got Jägr and Iginla win the cup afterwards? Didn't think so.
- biegs

No but did those teams have Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, and Seabrook? talk about a worthless point to bring up. Obviously a trade does not guarantee a cup win. All it does is guarantee that the Hawks are a better team that has center depth and a quality forward that plays a 200 foot game, can kill penalties and chip in on offense. Also, Sharp has 1 goal in 20 games or so and was also on the 3rd/4th lin in the playoffs last year. Tell me again how a 5.9 mil/year player is providing value in the bottom six of a cap-strapped team??

You may have to do that next year anyways, minus the rental coming back.
- StLBravesFan

I just don't think there's any way Stan can't find a buyer for Sharp in the off-season that doesn't involve giving up a pick/prospect. Mostly because the actual experts, like McKenzie, keep saying that the market for players with cap and term is bad right now but will be better in the off-season. I'll believe his opinion about trades/markets more than almost anyone tbh.

No but did those teams have Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, and Seabrook? talk about a worthless point to bring up. Obviously a trade does not guarantee a cup win. All it does is guarantee that the Hawks are a better team that has center depth and a quality forward that plays a 200 foot game, can kill penalties and chip in on offense. Also, Sharp has 1 goal in 20 games or so and was also on the 3rd/4th lin in the playoffs last year. Tell me again how a 5.9 mil/year player is providing value in the bottom six of a cap-strapped team??
- EnzoD

And Vermette has 3 goals in his last 20 games (also a -10 in those games).

Get it done, Stan.

No but did those teams have Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, and Seabrook? talk about a worthless point to bring up. Obviously a trade does not guarantee a cup win. All it does is guarantee that the Hawks are a better team that has center depth and a quality forward that plays a 200 foot game, can kill penalties and chip in on offense. Also, Sharp has 1 goal in 20 games or so and was also on the 3rd/4th lin in the playoffs last year. Tell me again how a 5.9 mil/year player is providing value in the bottom six of a cap-strapped team??
- EnzoD

Your point is about this season, the cap doesn't affect the Hawks this season and Sharp is by far the better player to have this season. So what is the benefit of reducing the cap now when it doesn't matter, to get a lesser player who isn't as good this season and won't be with the team next year?

Your point is about this season, the cap doesn't affect the Hawks this season and Sharp is by far the better player to have this season. So what is the benefit of reducing the cap noe when it doesn't matter, to get a lesser player who isn't as good this season and won't be with the team next year?
- paulr

Because trades, man. We need more trades!