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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 11:56 AM ET
If the Flyers are 1 point out of a spot by the deadline... I am still trading him.

Out of respect for him, and for future investments.

- jak521



I think it all revolves around what Timonen wants. If he wants to be moved, they'll try and accomodate him.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 11:58 AM ET
Also I seem to remember Read saying something about seeing the ice better as RW, but he's seemed to work fine on LW side with Coots and Simmer at RW, right?
- mcefalu


Yeah. I don't get it. When I played, I played both wings and sometimes was used on D. Granted, it was nowhere near the level of the NHL and going from wing to D was always an adjustment, but switching wings was never a big deal. Sure when you play the off wing you're on your backhand a bit more, but other than that, I never really felt any difference.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 11:58 AM ET
were you rooting for the jumbotron to fall on the ice?
- Marc D

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 12:00 PM ET
Lightening are looking for defense and possible PP quarterback. Kimmo could be a help for them. Also Coburn(not the PP part). TB has 2 first rounders and some decent prospects. Could they maybe get a slater Koekkoek or namestnikov or Erne? I don't know. Probably not but I would be hitting up these playoff teams because they will want to sure up the d for playoffs. Anaheim lost Beleksy and Vatenen. How about Coburn and B.Schenn for a first and Shea Theodore or Etem or Karlsson or Ritchie.

Not sure if it can happen but I think some of these playoff teams might get desperate

- J35Bacher


Tampa doesn't have a ton of cap room so I don't know how realistic Coburn would be without us taking back a roster player. Not much interest in Koekkoek. He's too similar to LSchenn from what I've seen. Namestnikov probably not likely as they don't have much depth at Center in their system.

I'd either be putting a huge package together for Drouin or I'd be looking at their picks. Maybe they put Vasilevsky on the block for D help but I kind of doubt it.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 12:00 PM ET
Not sure if it was posted, but here's the board that got Morin a 2-game suspension and the brawl that ensued:


- jmatchett383


Yup, born to be a Flyer
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 12:01 PM ET
Yeah. I don't get it. When I played, I played both wings and sometimes was used on D. Granted, it was nowhere near the level of the NHL and going from wing to D was always an adjustment, but switching wings was never a big deal. Sure when you play the off wing you're on your backhand a bit more, but other than that, I never really felt any difference.
- BiggE



The NHL game is infinitely faster, as well as the talent level and ability, so it makes sense to me. Wayne Simmonds also struggled when moved to the left side.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 17 @ 12:03 PM ET
Tampa doesn't have a ton of cap room so I don't know how realistic Coburn would be without us taking back a roster player. Not much interest in Koekkoek. He's too similar to LSchenn from what I've seen. Namestnikov probably not likely as they don't have much depth at Center in their system.

I'd either be putting a huge package together for Drouin or I'd be looking at their picks. Maybe they put Vasilevsky on the block for D help but I kind of doubt it.

- hereticpride



You could be right.

My main thing is looking at some of these playoff teams who need to shore up d and try to get all I can. LA could use d. I just look back at how teams get desperate at the deadline and when push comes to shove sometimes they make desperate deals.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Feb 17 @ 12:03 PM ET
Flyers schedule before the deadline: Blue Jackets, Sabres, Predators, Capitals, Hurricanes, Leafs, and Rangers

Bruins schedule before the deadline: Oilers, Blues, Blackhawks, Canucks, Devils, Coyotes

The Bruins will probably get at least 6 pts since the Oilers, Devils, and Coyotes are beyond putrid but the other 3 games are tough ones. The flyers on the other hand only have 2 tough games against the Rangers and Predator. If they can't close to 4 pts on less by the deadline, they need to sell.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:03 PM ET
Yeah. I don't get it. When I played, I played both wings and sometimes was used on D. Granted, it was nowhere near the level of the NHL and going from wing to D was always an adjustment, but switching wings was never a big deal. Sure when you play the off wing you're on your backhand a bit more, but other than that, I never really felt any difference.
- BiggE


Idk what level you played at, but I know for me, it was rough the past 4 years in college. High school and travel hockey I could play either wing no problem. In college, it took me almost 3 seasons to get comfortable playing LW, which I actually preferred (I'm a righty).

I use to play a lot of D before college too; that didn't last long at all. It obviously depends on the player, but I noticed huge differences as the speed of the game was ramped up. Probably very similar to how some guys can score bundles in the AHL, but in the NHL they're bottom six guys. It's all about the pace of the game. Some can adjust as they move up, others hit a wall.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 17 @ 12:04 PM ET
Not sure if it was posted, but here's the board that got Morin a 2-game suspension and the brawl that ensued:


- jmatchett383


Wow, serious overreaction
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:06 PM ET
Man, I hope not. Heck, I'll take Corpseburger over Rinaldo
- BiggE


No doubt. At least Umberger will occasionally score a goal by accident and won't take a mind numbing penalty that just drains your will to watch the Flyers.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:06 PM ET
Wow, serious overreaction
- Scoob


I kinda thought so too.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 12:08 PM ET
Idk what level you played at, but I know for me, it was rough the past 4 years in college. High school and travel hockey I could play either wing no problem. In college, it took me almost 3 seasons to get comfortable playing LW, which I actually preferred (I'm a righty).

I use to play a lot of D before college too; that didn't last long at all. It obviously depends on the player, but I noticed huge differences as the speed of the game was ramped up. Probably very similar to how some guys can score bundles in the AHL, but in the NHL they're bottom six guys. It's all about the pace of the game. Some can adjust as they move up, others hit a wall.

- mochoson


I never got past north American junior, but I hear ya. It is funny how some players, at the pro level, have no prob whatsoever switching wings and others really struggle with it.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:10 PM ET
Tampa doesn't have a ton of cap room so I don't know how realistic Coburn would be without us taking back a roster player. Not much interest in Koekkoek. He's too similar to LSchenn from what I've seen. Namestnikov probably not likely as they don't have much depth at Center in their system.

I'd either be putting a huge package together for Drouin or I'd be looking at their picks. Maybe they put Vasilevsky on the block for D help but I kind of doubt it.

- hereticpride


Slater Koekkoek is nothing like Luke Schenn, completely different kind of player. I'd be stoked if the Flyers got a 2nd and him for Coburn. Namestnikov is also very intriguing.

If we call about Vasilevsky or Drouin, Yzerman probably hangs up. Those two aren't going anywhere.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:12 PM ET
I never got past north American junior, but I hear ya. It is funny how some players, at the pro level, have no prob whatsoever switching wings and others really struggle with it.
- BiggE


Biggest thing for me was timing. That extra second you may need to cradle a pass in your own zone on your back hand on the off wing needs to be more like a half or quarter of a second. It's not an easy adjustment, especially when your playing against really good teams.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 17 @ 12:21 PM ET
What are the odds the Flyers trade any of the following at the TDL? Matt Read, Braden Schenn, Nick Schultz or Grossmann.
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Feb 17 @ 12:21 PM ET
it would be nice to see the top unit show up on the scoresheet tonight
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 17 @ 12:22 PM ET
The combo of coburn,grossman, and l schenn all dressing for this team is just not a good idea. The speed that Columbus brings on the forecheck isn't good for that group.

If Amac is sitting. I really am wondering if it is berubes decision or not

This is way more of a head scratcher than MDZ earlier in the year
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:23 PM ET
What are the odds the Flyers trade any of the following at the TDL? Matt Read, Braden Schenn, Nick Schultz or Grossmann.
- mickel25


Schultz, Grossman, Coburn have a decent shot of getting moved.

Read and Schenn I doubt it. If they go, we're involved in a pretty significant deal.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 17 @ 12:24 PM ET
Schultz, Grossman, Coburn have a decent shot of getting moved.

Read and Schenn I doubt it. If they go, we're involved in a pretty significant deal.

- mochoson


Yeah are probably right. Read and Schenn seem like draft moves if a move is to be made. I hope 2 or 3 of the D-men get moved but I think Schultz will ultimately be the only one who does.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 12:25 PM ET
What are the odds the Flyers trade any of the following at the TDL? Matt Read, Braden Schenn, Nick Schultz or Grossmann.
- mickel25


Read 25-1 - no point selling low

B. Schenn 50-1 - if he's going to get moved it's likely to happen at the draft

Schultz 3-1, odds increase to 2-1 if he's not re-signed before 3/02

Grossmann 4-1
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 12:25 PM ET
The combo of coburn,grossman, and l schenn all dressing for this team is just not a good idea. The speed that Columbus brings on the forecheck isn't good for that group.

If Amac is sitting. I really am wondering if it is berubes decision or not

This is way more of a head scratcher than MDZ earlier in the year

- Just5


Almost have to think they are showcasing guys before the deadline.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Feb 17 @ 12:27 PM ET
If we havent had a real "must win" game yet this season, then this is it. A loss tonight would cut our playoff chances nearly in half. A win would help us pretty substantially.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 17 @ 12:32 PM ET
Almost have to think they are showcasing guys before the deadline.
- BiggE


That's the only thing I can think of. I guess we all know where Hexy priorities are and I love it. I just think they will go back to looking like crap cause it's a bad mix.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 17 @ 12:35 PM ET
Dave Isaac @davegisaac ยท 2 hours ago
Colaiacovo-MacDonald the extra pair.

Ohhhhhhh helllllll yeahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

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