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Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 12 @ 1:17 PM ET
I only saw one squinty brown one.
- Der Kaiser

tipe faster
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 12 @ 1:17 PM ET
Chinese woman with green eyes
- homiedclown


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wr-pp6W9hs
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 12 @ 1:17 PM ET
If you look at your roster you had Tavares and Okposo and that's it. You signed more depth guys this offseason and got a goalie.

McEichel will be Tavares. Reinhart Girgensons Moulson Ennis Kane will round out our top 6 not to mention another move could be had like Sharp. I just see the Sabres turning it around a lot faster. Especially with guys like Pysyk playing over Benoit and Mezaros.

The pieces that you are saying that aren't NHL ready would be whom? The only question mark is Reinhart and I think he will be fine. This rebuild started 3 years ago.

A lineup like:

Sharp McEichel Kane
Moulson Reinhart Ennis
Gionta Girgensons Foligno
Deslauriers Mitchell Flynn

Risto Zadorov
Pysyk Bogosian
Gorges McCabe

is a VAST improvement just on paper alone. Not to mention getting a real coach.

The PP improves dramatically the only question mark is in net.

If its not Sharp its a player like him. If no deal is made then Girgensons moves up to play winger and Moulson goes to line one and then a player is signed in FA

- Stripes77

You're joking right?

(Martin, Cizikas, Clutterbuck, DeHaan, Hamonic, Nielsen, Nelson, Strome, Lee)
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 12 @ 1:18 PM ET
tipe faster
- Pierceme69


Think in full sentances.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 12 @ 1:20 PM ET
Chinese woman with green eyes
- homiedclown

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 1:20 PM ET
So a two players that have played little or no time in the NHL and Evander Kane vault you into the conversation for the eighth seed next year? Not trying to be a douche I just don't understand how this happens?
- Cptmjl

Tavares put up 24 goals and 54 points his rookie season

The sabres are adding 2 rookies of similar skill next season and adding a first line winger to go with them


there was a boom for the islanders for Tavares's rookie year (18 points)

no reason not to expect a sonic boom when you add 3 players like that

the 2 biggest issues on the sabres are goals scored, and special teams
if you do not think these 3 players improve the sabres big time, the conversation ends here


I also feel the sabres will bring in 2 to 3 more upper end players before august



plus I expect a big dip from the rangers and bruins next season
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 12 @ 1:20 PM ET
Brown eye
- Pierceme69

{insert picture here}
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 1:21 PM ET
http://youtu.be/_4G1O49QY1I
- dadeadhead

Indeed


leonwaldo420
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Never In Canada
Joined: 06.30.2008

Feb 12 @ 1:21 PM ET
Only Buffalo would make a trade for an oft injured, locker room cancer with a sense of entitlement. Amazing.
- blacksheep1

HAHAHA, glad to see the only Blue Jacket fan checkin in.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 12 @ 1:21 PM ET
Wow…you really don’t know the Isles roster at all.

We had Tavares, Okposo, Nielson, Grabner (who’s been hurt most of the year) and depth in martin, cizikas and clutterbuck. Add Grabovski, Kulemin and it looks better but the key was having Nelson, Lee and Strome all ready and contributing. We also had Hamonic and Dehaan on defense (who took time to be NHL ready) and added Boychuk and Leddy, and still have Reinhart and Pulock coming.

It’s not just add a couple guys and go, we took a long time drafting and developing essentially a second line of top six forwards before we had enough depth up front.

You’ve got Sharp added into your roster which is a big if, a ton of teams would like him. If you’re putting Moulson up top next to Kane both your top line wingers are scoring at about a 15 goal pace, both inconsistent and then you’re putting a rookie between them to play top line minutes in the NHL with a rookie center behind him.

Better, yes, playoffs, I don’t see you within 10 points of the final spot, which in itself would be a massive improvement over this season. Walk before you run.

- Isles_since_6


Nobody likes their roster being dismissed, especially in a great year, just like nobody likes to hear that the Sabres team in the 90s was "Dominik Hasek and 22 other guys". The reality is, however, without those guys, the team isn't close. I think we are going to end up seeing that the guys you mentioned above are good players that are all having very good to great years. The Islanders acquired a lot of good depth, and that's what has vaulted them into the success they are having. The question is, how much longer does that last beyond this season?
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Feb 12 @ 1:22 PM ET
So two players that have played little or no time in the NHL and Evander Kane vault you into the conversation for the eighth seed next year? Not trying to be a douche I just don't understand how this happens?
- Cptmjl


They're definitely going to talk playoffs next year during training camp. Trade deadline isn't over, draft hasn't happened yet, UFA signings haven't happened yet. As of now, you're right. And I don't EXPECT to make the playoffs. I just genuinely believe that's the GM's lofty goal for next season.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 1:22 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wr-pp6W9hs
- Der Kaiser

one of the best concerts I ever went to

Frampton was playing lead guitar

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 1:23 PM ET
Indeed
- homiedclown



Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 12 @ 1:23 PM ET
one of the best concerts I ever went to

Frampton was playing lead guitar

- homiedclown


I never really "got" Bowie.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 1:28 PM ET
Nobody likes their roster being dismissed, especially in a great year, just like nobody likes to hear that the Sabres team in the 90s was "Dominik Hasek and 22 other guys". The reality is, however, without those guys, the team isn't close. I think we are going to end up seeing that the guys you mentioned above are good players that are all having very good to great years. The Islanders acquired a lot of good depth, and that's what has vaulted them into the success they are having. The question is, how much longer does that last beyond this season?
- buffalofan19

05-06 Sabres. That's who they are.

Thin defense, great forward depth
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 1:31 PM ET
I never really "got" Bowie.
- Der Kaiser



http://youtu.be/O43emEpUrRs
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 12 @ 1:31 PM ET
If this does end up ringing true its a huge mistake.

Not just that, but it makes Murray and Pegula look like some pretty huge douchebags.

Hire a guy so he can take the fall, while the guy that orchestrated putting this poopty roster together with all of his wasted moves this past summer that Teddy has been forced to coach is let go?

The guy that wants to stand in front of the media and act like he is shocked at what a bad team this is, or how bad it is?

He should know, he brought Gorges, Neuvirth, Benoit, Meszaros , Strachan in here to be this bad, and just let his best goalie leave to bring in another waste of roster space in Lindbach.

(frank)ing hypocrite scumbag son of a female dog.

If Nolan is not given next season with a roster not set up to fail by the GM, i'll never respect the guy, ever.

It's a piece of poop move if indeed happens.

I can't even stand the nerve and arrogance of that beady eyed (frank) for placing all the blame on Nolan and none besides in a "matter of fact manner during the interview" on himself.

I can't even wrap my head around this and the arrogance of that fool.
- BuffaloHardHat

You're constantly beating this drum, who cares if Nolan is let go, he's nothing special.

How do you know that he wasn't brought in and told we are gonna have a bad roster so if you want the job you'll have to deal with that. I'm sure Nolan understood the plan on the rebuild and accepted the challenge to win with scrubs. Thats his MO and he failed to succeed time to move on. I don't think he's a good coach. Stop saying he doesn't have talent he's got some good youth that are not progressing like they should.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Feb 12 @ 1:31 PM ET
Tavares put up 24 goals and 54 points his rookie season

The sabres are adding 2 rookies of similar skill next season and adding a first line winger to go with them


there was a boom for the islanders for Tavares's rookie year (18 points)

no reason not to expect a sonic boom when you add 3 players like that

the 2 biggest issues on the sabres are goals scored, and special teams
if you do not think these 3 players improve the sabres big time, the conversation ends here


I also feel the sabres will bring in 2 to 3 more upper end players before august



plus I expect a big dip from the rangers and bruins next season

- homiedclown


Matching Tavares rookie production sets a pretty big expectation for Reinhart.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 12 @ 1:32 PM ET
Tavares put up 24 goals and 54 points his rookie season

The sabres are adding 2 rookies of similar skill next season and adding a first line winger to go with them


there was a boom for the islanders for Tavares's rookie year (18 points)

no reason not to expect a sonic boom when you add 3 players like that

the 2 biggest issues on the sabres are goals scored, and special teams
if you do not think these 3 players improve the sabres big time, the conversation ends here



I also feel the sabres will bring in 2 to 3 more upper end players before august



plus I expect a big dip from the rangers and bruins next season

- homiedclown


There’s plenty of reason to be optimistic as a sabres fan with all the picks and prospects, but I think you’re setting yourself up in a big way.

You guys will be a playoff team, but it might not be for another 2-3 years. Projecting your point totals for this year over 82 games works out to 52-53. Most years the last team making the playoffs is around 94 points. That’s a 42 point improvement just to possibly be the 8th seed. You’re going to need one heck of a transformation over the summer.

Now if Kane doesn’t score more than 15 goals, and Moulson can’t get more than the 12 or so he’s on pace for…that’s a hell of a lot of pressure on two rookie centers to produce…then you need a goalie…about 2-3 more top four defensemen….(or your prospects need to take a big leap forward)

The Isles huge season is going to likely net us a 20-25 point improvement over last year…42 is…yeah. Unlikely is the kindest way to put it if you expect them to be in the conversation next year.

Give it time, you’re not going to get worse, but it’s not instant.

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 12 @ 1:33 PM ET
Tavares put up 24 goals and 54 points his rookie season

The sabres are adding 2 rookies of similar skill next season and adding a first line winger to go with them


there was a boom for the islanders for Tavares's rookie year (18 points)

no reason not to expect a sonic boom when you add 3 players like that

the 2 biggest issues on the sabres are goals scored, and special teams
if you do not think these 3 players improve the sabres big time, the conversation ends here


I also feel the sabres will bring in 2 to 3 more upper end players before august



plus I expect a big dip from the rangers and bruins next season

- homiedclown

Who are the 2 rookies with similar skill sets to Tavares you're adding I figured one is Mceichel who is the other one? Also do you have Martin, Cizikas, Clutterbuck, DeHaan, Hamonic, Nielsen, Nelson, Strome, Lee and that's just who we had last time we went to the playoffs minus the rookies in a shortened season. Forget about adding Boychuck, Leddy, Halak, Grabovski, Kulemin in the offseason this year to be competitive.

As far as knowing that those 3 players will instantly improve your team I have no idea? I have never seen them play an NHL game? How could myself or anyone else claim that it'd instantly make your special teams better? Who is your goaltender? Who do you have on defense minus Weber and Gorges that's not a first yr player and haven't exactly been lighting it up? Bogosian? I like him but he's a legit top 4.


Murray would have to move heaven and earth for you guys to even be a bubble team next year IMO I have no idea how anyone could possibly think otherwise and with this UFA market and teams penchant for signing players before they even reach UFA I'd expect this free agency to be the slimmest in years considering it is now today at this very moment forget about factoring in who signs with their teams before July. Sorry this comes off as me throwing a dagger which isn't my ambition but I think I just stated a whole lot of fact just don't know how else to deliver it?
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 12 @ 1:34 PM ET
05-06 Sabres. That's who they are.

Thin defense, great forward depth

- sbroads24

You also said we were still going to be a lottery pick near the end of November, so your opinion doesn’t mean much of anything.
99odekkedo
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 06.06.2014

Feb 12 @ 1:35 PM ET
Next up for Buffalo's to do list...
Get Mike Richards
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 12 @ 1:35 PM ET
Matching Tavares rookie production sets a pretty big expectation for Reinhart.
- RonPielep


The thing he has going for him, is he will not be center of attention. That will be McEichel.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 1:37 PM ET
You also said we were still going to be a lottery pick near the end of November, so your opinion doesn’t mean much of anything.
- Isles_since_6

05-06 Sabres made the ECF.

And I said they were a bubble team
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Feb 12 @ 1:37 PM ET
Gorges not at practice today.


- TheSabresTaco



...cuz he's out having lunch?


(jk)
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