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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 3:36 PM ET
Bourque better/more important player than Hasek to their respective cup winning teams? Both had to leave their poop teams to win a cup but that Colorado team was as stacked as they come. Of course one's a goalie and one a Defenseman, but what did Bourque ever really do for Boston? 1700p on an original six franchise in a large market but no cup. Hasek played for a small market team and VISA commercial.

- DynamicThreads



Tom Barrasso and Colin Chisholm for 4 games of Rick Martin.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 12 @ 3:39 PM ET
I brought it back to the game.

And shut up.

- nfph


Don't you tell me what to do mister!!!! I (think) am older than you!!
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 12 @ 3:40 PM ET
Then its settled. Kozlov for Hasek most lopsided trade EVAR.
- DynamicThreads


How about the trade to actually get Hasek in blue and gold?

Stefan Beauregard
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 3:40 PM ET
Bourque better/more important player than Hasek to their respective cup winning teams? Both had to leave their poop teams to win a cup but that Colorado team was as stacked as they come. Of course one's a goalie and one a Defenseman, but what did Bourque ever really do for Boston? 1700p on an original six franchise in a large market but no cup. Hasek played for a small market team and VISA commercial.

- DynamicThreads



Robert Picard for the pick that became Patrick Roy
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 12 @ 3:42 PM ET
How about the trade to actually get Hasek in blue and gold?

Stefan Beauregard

- Stripes77

hasek was bought for nothing and given away for nothing.. i guess we deserved it?
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 12 @ 3:45 PM ET
not Darcy,don't be negative
- SABRES 89[ he built this franchise according to some

Courtesy of Wikipedia

In his years in Buffalo, he has been in charge when the Sabres drafted and developed such players as Maxim Afinogenov, Henrik Tallinder, Aleš Kotalík, Ryan Miller, Paul Gaustad, Derek Roy, Jason Pominville and Thomas Vanek. He has also made some important acquisitions as well, such as trading for Chris Drury, Tim Connolly, Daniel Brière and Jean-Pierre Dumont while trying to maintain a strict budget.

Never said he"built the franchise".

However, I did say that he built some very exciting, and very entertaining hockey clubs for which he does not get enough credit for being on the strict budget he was on.
Some of you claim that I continue on and on, but factually speaking, I am only replying to what is posted directly at or about me.

Stop beating that dead horse and perhaps I would have no need to participate.

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 3:45 PM ET
How about the trade to actually get Hasek in blue and gold?

Stefan Beauregard

- Stripes77



Ruuttu for Beauregard (Winnipeg didn't want to lose him in the expansion draft)
Beauregard for Hasek
Beauregard for Ruuttu(Chicago tried to get him earlier in the year)


Strange how a trade works out.
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Feb 12 @ 3:45 PM ET
hmm idk. In my mind Hasek is the best goaltender of all time by a landslide. So idk.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 12 @ 3:45 PM ET
Lyle Richardson is speculating that Washington could go after RW, and mentions Tlusty from Carolina as a good fit.
The Caps bargaining chip... Burmistrov
Says they're also interested in Stewart

If we can get Burmistrov for Stewart I'd REALLY like that
Even if we have to add a 2nd or something like that
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 12 @ 3:46 PM ET
Arizona joining in on the "Out for the season" tank job!

Bob McKenzie retweeted
Arizona Coyotes ‏@ArizonaCoyotes 11m11 minutes ago
UPDATE: G.M. Don Maloney says center Martin Hanzal will have back surgery and the likelihood of him playing again this season is "remote."

- stashu

don't you trade for him too!
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 12 @ 3:46 PM ET
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 12 @ 3:48 PM ET
Courtesy of Wikipedia

In his years in Buffalo, he has been in charge when the Sabres drafted and developed such players as Maxim Afinogenov, Henrik Tallinder, Aleš Kotalík, Ryan Miller, Paul Gaustad, Derek Roy, Jason Pominville and Thomas Vanek. He has also made some important acquisitions as well, such as trading for Chris Drury, Tim Connolly, Daniel Brière and Jean-Pierre Dumont while trying to maintain a strict budget.

Never said he"built the franchise".

However, I did say that he built some very exciting, and very entertaining hockey clubs for which he does not get enough credit for being on the strict budget he was on.
Some of you claim that I continue on and on, but factually speaking, I am only replying to what is posted directly at or about me.

Stop beating that dead horse and perhaps I would have no need to participate.


- BuffaloHardHat


And when the strict budget went away he paid Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff both of whom are being paid millions of dollars NOT to play hockey for the Buffalo Sabres.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 12 @ 3:50 PM ET
hasek was bought for nothing and given away for nothing.. i guess we deserved it?
- IndianaSabresFan


Koslov and Paille for Hasek...it is a bit better than what we gave up to get him but not by much
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 12 @ 3:51 PM ET
How about the trade to actually get Hasek in blue and gold?

Stefan Beauregard

- Stripes77
Hašek was traded to the Buffalo Sabres for goalie Stephane Beauregard and future considerations, which later materialized into a draft pick used to obtain Éric Dazé
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 12 @ 3:52 PM ET

- Stripes77

I think I reacted in a similar way when we traded pierre turgeon for kirk muller way back when. Same reaction as stepping in dog poop.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 12 @ 3:52 PM ET
don't you trade for him too!
- Isles_since_6


Sabres next trading partners:

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 12 @ 3:52 PM ET
Courtesy of Wikipedia

In his years in Buffalo, he has been in charge when the Sabres drafted and developed such players as Maxim Afinogenov, Henrik Tallinder, Aleš Kotalík, Ryan Miller, Paul Gaustad, Derek Roy, Jason Pominville and Thomas Vanek. He has also made some important acquisitions as well, such as trading for Chris Drury, Tim Connolly, Daniel Brière and Jean-Pierre Dumont while trying to maintain a strict budget.

Never said he"built the franchise".

However, I did say that he built some very exciting, and very entertaining hockey clubs for which he does not get enough credit for being on the strict budget he was on.
Some of you claim that I continue on and on, but factually speaking, I am only replying to what is posted directly at or about me.

Stop beating that dead horse and perhaps I would have no need to participate.


- BuffaloHardHat



Any future success the Sabres have will partly be BC of Darcy
Anyone who tries to deny that is foolish
The trades he made while selling off our assets were nothing short of BRILLIANT
Murray has mentioned multiple times how the cupboard was fully stocked with picks & good prospects when he got here.
If Murray can see that,
I think we should recognize it as well



Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 12 @ 3:53 PM ET
Hašek was traded to the Buffalo Sabres for goalie Stephane Beauregard and future considerations, which later materialized into a draft pick used to obtain Éric Dazé
- BuffaloHardHat

I liked eric...I thought he might turn into a consistent goal scoring power forward. whoops.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Feb 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
Don't you tell me what to do mister!!!! I (think) am older than you!!
- stashu

37 - go.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
Any future success the Sabres have will partly be BC of Darcy
Anyone who tries to deny that is foolish
The trades he made while selling off our assets were nothing short of BRILLIANT
Murray has mentioned multiple times how the cupboard was fully stocked with picks & good prospects when he got here.
If Murray can see that,
I think we should recognize it as well

- jdfitz77


I think you missed the conversation.

It was
Darcy - Brilliant has earned respect. Crafting masterful winners

Murray - Stupid idiot douchebag, No respect. Cant fight out of wet paper bag.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 12 @ 3:56 PM ET
I think you missed the conversation.

It was
Darcy - Brilliant has earned respect. Crafting masterful winners

Murray - Stupid idiot douchebag, No respect. Cant fight out of wet paper bag.

- ImThatGuy

Last year’s trades for the blues and isles 1sts prove he’s not a dummy, but this trade makes him look like a bit of a riverboat gambler. Interesting anyway.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 12 @ 3:57 PM ET
Any future success the Sabres have will partly be BC of Darcy
Anyone who tries to deny that is foolish
The trades he made while selling off our assets were nothing short of BRILLIANT
Murray has mentioned multiple times how the cupboard was fully stocked with picks & good prospects when he got here.
If Murray can see that,
I think we should recognize it as well

- jdfitz77


Darcy did do a good job of getting what he could out of trades, what he failed to do however was pull the trigger on a trade at the deadline to push the Sabres over the hump...Bob Corkum anyone?

Darcy was always afraid of moving prospects and picks he didn't do the bold move to help the team win and win now.

While Murray inherited a ton of picks and prospects that were acquired under Darcy because Darcy failed to rebuild the core and then realized he has to tear down the entire team due to his poor judgment in turning the team over to Derek Roy, Thomas Vanek and Drew Stafford. So yes while Murray is enjoying the fruits of Darcy so to say its because Darcy set the team up to fail and ownership told him to tear it all down.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 12 @ 3:57 PM ET
And when the strict budget went away he paid Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff both of whom are being paid millions of dollars NOT to play hockey for the Buffalo Sabres.
- Stripes77


Leino was obv a bust, but Darcy was "going for it" an when Richards Fd us, Leino was the next best target... That said, horrible horrible deal
The Ehrhoff signing was outstanding
Murray IMO screwed that up when he bought him out... We could've gotten a good return for him. I understand he was worries about the possibility of the "cap recapture" penalty... But I still think it was a big mistake.
1) players rarely retire with years left on their contracts
2) we're doubtful to be near the cap to the point where it would really hurt us (it's gonna take years for our young guys to work their way towards huge contracts)
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 12 @ 3:58 PM ET
37 - go.
- nfph


I win
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 12 @ 3:59 PM ET
And when the strict budget went away he paid Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff both of whom are being paid millions of dollars NOT to play hockey for the Buffalo Sabres.
- Stripes77

But I am not focusing on the after which some with tunnel vision seem to want to do.
I am saying that there are some posters here that simply refuse to give the man any credit at all which is absurd and yet give all the respect in the world to an unproven nobody rookie GM in Murray which is mind blowing in it of itself.

That being said, I also remember a lot of people on here and in Sabre land that were very happy with the Leino and Ehrhoff signings.
Some people here fought for Ehrhoff like he was their father.
Some moves work and some moves don't work out, it's the life of a GM in any sport.
The problem with Darcy in the end , just like Lindy, he had worn out his welcome and the owner felt the pressure to finally let him go as well as Lindy previous to Darcy.

Some of the deals that Darcy made or was able to swing were fantastic.
Gaustad for a 1st round pick is up there as maybe one of the best.
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