About Comeau, we tend to base future deals a little bit based on what deal they are coming off of. But, with UFA's you can't do that.

If he keeps playing this second half of the season like he was pre-injury, he'd be on like a 29 goal/52 point pace (for 82 games). He will still probably get 20 goals and close to 40 points.

Brandon Dubinsky just got a 6 year $5.85 mil per year extension off a 16 goal/50 point season. Radim Vrbata got a 2 year $5 mil deal as a UFA off a 20 goal/51 point season. Matt Mouslon got a 5 year $5 mil deal as a UFA off a 23 goal/51 point season.

Granted, Comeau has had a few tough years, and he might not want to mess up a good thing, but if he keeps playing well, it's going to take $4+ mil per to keep him around.
- rival22

All 3 of those guys you used as examples had multiple decent seasons. They did not get those deals based off of one season.

About Comeau, we tend to base future deals a little bit based on what deal they are coming off of. But, with UFA's you can't do that.

If he keeps playing this second half of the season like he was pre-injury, he'd be on like a 29 goal/52 point pace (for 82 games). He will still probably get 20 goals and close to 40 points.

Brandon Dubinsky just got a 6 year $5.85 mil per year extension off a 16 goal/50 point season. Radim Vrbata got a 2 year $5 mil deal as a UFA off a 20 goal/51 point season. Matt Mouslon got a 5 year $5 mil deal as a UFA off a 23 goal/51 point season.

Granted, Comeau has had a few tough years, and he might not want to mess up a good thing, but if he keeps playing well, it's going to take $4+ mil per to keep him around.
- rival22

Comeau also had two very good goal scoring years with the Islanders in this past. This season will make his 3rd of a ~20+ goal season. He can command some money most likely

All 3 of those guys you used as examples had multiple decent seasons. They did not get those deals based off of one season.
- PensFan1103

Pouliot?

He had more hustle than the last 4 or 5 games he played... but I still see him being traded very soon. It doesn't even feel right watching him now
- Guile

BB looked like he had no idea what to do on that 1on1. It was tough to watch. His line was terrible, the 4th was a better line TBH. BB tried to forecheck at one point and somehow knocked him self off the player on a hit from behind, as he came to someone else knocked him over. It was not a good night for BB.

I didn't get to see much. If I my intention was to trade him I'd prop him up by playing with 87/71 not demote him to the 4th.
- dbell646

Yeah, I don't think they are going to move him for the sake of moving him, but I think GMJR lets teams know he is available and if he gets a good enough deal he will be gone, but they aren't going to sell low on him. They will see if anyone is still high enough on him to think he might just need a change of scenery and do a deal there. Otherwise I wouldn't be surprised if he is sent down (If he is eligible, I am not sure of his waiver status) or he is probably riding the pine the majority of the rest of the season.

About Comeau, we tend to base future deals a little bit based on what deal they are coming off of. But, with UFA's you can't do that.

If he keeps playing this second half of the season like he was pre-injury, he'd be on like a 29 goal/52 point pace (for 82 games). He will still probably get 20 goals and close to 40 points.

Brandon Dubinsky just got a 6 year $5.85 mil per year extension off a 16 goal/50 point season. Radim Vrbata got a 2 year $5 mil deal as a UFA off a 20 goal/51 point season. Matt Mouslon got a 5 year $5 mil deal as a UFA off a 23 goal/51 point season.

Granted, Comeau has had a few tough years, and he might not want to mess up a good thing, but if he keeps playing well, it's going to take $4+ mil per to keep him around.
- rival22

Wow $4+ mil ?? The last couple years he has been a spare part in Calgary and Columbus while the other players you listed had/have some what proven track records. At this stag of his career I think he'd be happy to ride shotgun with Geno for a couple years at a fair price ($2.5-$2.73 mil). But I guess as long as there are desperate GMs you just never know

Wow $4+ mil ?? The last couple years he has been a spare part in Calgary and Columbus while the other players you listed had/have some what proven track records. At this stag of his career I think he'd be happy to ride shotgun with Geno for a couple years at a fair price ($2.5-$2.73 mil). But I guess as long as there are desperate GMs you just never know
- willi

Yeah, I'm hoping other GM's consider the Geno effect.....which they should. I think you nailed the price range. Seriously, would it surprise anyone if this goal scoring dried up? He should take that money and run.

All 3 of those guys you used as examples had multiple decent seasons. They did not get those deals based off of one season.
- PensFan1103

I'll give you Moulson and Vrbata, as they have been consistant producers, but Dubinsky has had 2 20 goal seasons and 2 50 point seasons in his career. Not exactly a world beater.

Benoit Pouliot was another good example from dbell... He had a 15 goal season, was visible in the playoffs and he got $4 mil per season.

Who knows what Comeau will take, but if I'm his agent, I'm bringing those sorts of examples to the negotiation.

Yeah, I don't think they are going to move him for the sake of moving him, but I think GMJR lets teams know he is available and if he gets a good enough deal he will be gone, but they aren't going to sell low on him. They will see if anyone is still high enough on him to think he might just need a change of scenery and do a deal there. Otherwise I wouldn't be surprised if he is sent down (If he is eligible, I am not sure of his waiver status) or he is probably riding the pine the majority of the rest of the season.
- PensFan1103

I think he has to clear waivers.

As much as bennett looked lost to some MJ had good things to say about him. So hopefully he keeps playing him.

Is winnik a center? I thought he was a winger.... and as much as I think comeau is doing good things with malkin, I hope they still go after someone younger...

Hopefully we will see a perron sid horn line soon. I'm really intrigued to see horn setup in front of net with sid and perron working the perimeter

Pouliot?
- dbell646

Pouliot is probably a more relevant comparison. But his was probably largely based off of a pretty solid playoff performance on top of pretty consistent 15 goal 30 pt seasons. Also Edmonton typically has to overpay to attract free agents. Pouliot should probably realistically be a $2.5 million dollar player, add in an extra $750,000 based off of a strong playoff performance for a team that reached the cup final and then another $750,000 over payment to get him to Edmonton and you end up at $4 million. That's kinda just the way I see it. That is how I would see Comeau if his strong season carried over to the playoffs and the Pens made a deep run. Realistically I would see him in the $2.5 range, maybe even slightly more. Some team likes his playoff performance, gives him $3.25 - $3.5. A team who struggles to bring in free agents over pays a little more.

I don't think a 5th year player can have a "sophomore slump." But yeah, he's better than his numbers indicate. Think you'd have to give up Sutter+ to get him, though.
- jmatchett383

I know this board is down on Sutter's play of of late, but come on, Sutter + for Hodgeson!!??!! Talk on TSN the other day was Hodgeson is a buy-uot canidate this summer. Hodgeson is of the same mold as Sutter, soft and over rated...but even more so. I personally want no part of him, he's pretty well a bust at this point in his career. Maybe a flyer on Robbie Schremp while we are at it? He showed some skill in juniour... LOL

I'll give you Moulson and Vrbata, as they have been consistant producers, but Dubinsky has had 2 20 goal seasons and 2 50 point seasons in his career. Not exactly a world beater.

Benoit Pouliot was another good example from dbell... He had a 15 goal season, was visible in the playoffs and he got $4 mil per season.

Who knows what Comeau will take, but if I'm his agent, I'm bringing those sorts of examples to the negotiation.
- rival22

I'd like to keep him but hey you have to cash in on a big season. Now a guy who has made 50-60 mil he might just be happy where he is

Yeah, I'm hoping other GM's consider the Geno effect.....which they should. I think you nailed the price range. Seriously, would it surprise anyone if this goal scoring dried up? He should take that money and run.
- madmike71

The flip side of that is that if he makes it through the season playing well, why not take the biggest deal on the open market and not look back? It would be a lot more than $2.5 mil.

Wow $4+ mil ?? The last couple years he has been a spare part in Calgary and Columbus while the other players you listed had/have some what proven track records. At this stag of his career I think he'd be happy to ride shotgun with Geno for a couple years at a fair price ($2.5-$2.73 mil). But I guess as long as there are desperate GMs you just never know
- willi

Ride shotgun with Geno or get 2x the cash? You can't walk away from that much more money.

Is winnik a center? I thought he was a winger
- nh4442

Winnik can play all 3 forward positions.

I'll give you Moulson and Vrbata, as they have been consistant producers, but Dubinsky has had 2 20 goal seasons and 2 50 point seasons in his career. Not exactly a world beater.

Benoit Pouliot was another good example from dbell... He had a 15 goal season, was visible in the playoffs and he got $4 mil per season.

Who knows what Comeau will take, but if I'm his agent, I'm bringing those sorts of examples to the negotiation.
- rival22

Yeah, only 2 20 goal seasons and 2 50 pt seasons, but he has plenty more in the 40 pt range, which isn't a huge difference. Plus he is known as a pretty solid defensive forward with some leadership.

As far as Pouliot I just responded to Dbell's post.

Pouliot is probably a more relevant comparison. But his was probably largely based off of a pretty solid playoff performance on top of pretty consistent 15 goal 30 pt seasons. Also Edmonton typically has to overpay to attract free agents. Pouliot should probably realistically be a $2.5 million dollar player, add in an extra $750,000 based off of a strong playoff performance for a team that reached the cup final and then another $750,000 over payment to get him to Edmonton and you end up at $4 million. That's kinda just the way I see it. That is how I would see Comeau if his strong season carried over to the playoffs and the Pens made a deep run. Realistically I would see him in the $2.5 range, maybe even slightly more. Some team likes his playoff performance, gives him $3.25 - $3.5. A team who struggles to bring in free agents over pays a little more.
- PensFan1103

If 1 team would pay him 4 then that is his value. I think his game translates well in the playoffs so I expect him to play descently. I hope he does sign for 2.5 with us. He can slide down the line up and still have a descent cap hit. What's spaling making around 2.2?

I'd like to keep him but hey you have to cash in on a big season. Now a guy who has made 50-60 mil he might just be happy where he is
- dbell646

Wish Jagr would have taken a 1 million contract from us.. Guy has made his money, what's another 3 million going to get you when you are the top earning NHL player of all time?

The flip side of that is that if he makes it through the season playing well, why not take the biggest deal on the open market and not look back? It would be a lot more than $2.5 mil.
- rival22

I'm not saying he won't. Just saying that he's playing with one of the top few centers in the world. Other GM's would be crazy to not consider that. He and his agent would be crazy not to consider that too.

most talented pens winger since Hossa, sorry Neal was good but not 200ft good.
- usethe1-2-2

Perron is a better player than Neal, easily. Neal just has one of the best wristers in the NHL.

About Comeau, we tend to base future deals a little bit based on what deal they are coming off of. But, with UFA's you can't do that.

If he keeps playing this second half of the season like he was pre-injury, he'd be on like a 29 goal/52 point pace (for 82 games). He will still probably get 20 goals and close to 40 points.

Brandon Dubinsky just got a 6 year $5.85 mil per year extension off a 16 goal/50 point season. Radim Vrbata got a 2 year $5 mil deal as a UFA off a 20 goal/51 point season. Matt Mouslon got a 5 year $5 mil deal as a UFA off a 23 goal/51 point season.

Granted, Comeau has had a few tough years, and he might not want to mess up a good thing, but if he keeps playing well, it's going to take $4+ mil per to keep him around.
- rival22

I'm saying what I would sign him for, not for what he would sign for. He will easily get 4 on the open market, but I wouldn't touch that. 2 mill is my limit.

Wish Jagr would have taken a 1 million contract from us.. Guy has made his money, what's another 3 million going to get you when you are the top earning NHL player of all time?
- znagle

Another $3 million.

As much as bennett looked lost to some MJ had good things to say about him. So hopefully he keeps playing him.

Is winnik a center? I thought he was a winger.... and as much as I think comeau is doing good things with malkin, I hope they still go after someone younger...

Hopefully we will see a perron sid horn line soon. I'm really intrigued to see horn setup in front of net with sid and perron working the perimeter
- nh4442

To me actions speak louder than words and swapping him for Adams in the 3rd can't be a good sign. I really hope they give him some time to work things out, but I just have a hard time believing it when they think Adams is the better option.

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