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TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Feb 12 @ 2:02 PM ET
Keeping 7 or 8 guys in needed, there is a cap floor. You can't replace everyone with an ELC player.
- LeafMan



Isn't it amazing how, after the nuke, we will laud Clarkson's contract for helping get us to the floor



LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:03 PM ET
You can always Florida it up with large stupid short term deals.
- Bigzby

Like Bolland? ha!
sparky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.15.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:03 PM ET
Give him two years and tell him to show he deserves a big time deal
- Canada Cup


That was the conversation with him during the last contract when he wanted big money but didn't get it. Kadri hasn't shown that he deserves big money and term. He still has upside but how long do you wait for it? If you give him the money and term he wants and doesn't get any better then your stuck with him. I would only keep him if for some reason the offers they get are horrible. Sign him for two years and try to trade him next year.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:04 PM ET
Isn't it amazing how, after the nuke, we will laud Clarkson's contract for helping get us to the floor


- TheThrill


He's actually a great player if on ice performance and contract become irrelevant.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:04 PM ET
Isn't it amazing how, after the nuke, we will laud Clarkson's contract for helping get us to the floor


- TheThrill



It's silly to think you can just tear it down and play all ELC players, what will that get you to, 23 million cap floor.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 12 @ 2:05 PM ET
I agree.

I'd 100% move JVR he'll get a sexy return.

Remember fellas the we're nuclear storming this roster.

- Bigzby


Plus, as much as his deal is great compared to production, he is a huge liability defensively, floats far too much, and therefore part of the entitlement culture...
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:05 PM ET


It's silly to think you can just tear it down and play all ELC players, what will that get you to, 23 million cap floor.

- LeafMan


League would love it, more revenue to share lol

(I know that number is impossible)
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:06 PM ET
I agree.

I'd 100% move JVR he'll get a sexy return.

Remember fellas the we're nuclear storming this roster.

- Bigzby


you'd have to be getting a top 3 pick to move him imo

contract is awesome.. and he is a solid producing big body

Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:06 PM ET
He's actually a great player if on ice performance and contract become irrelevant.
- Jeffmt


Quite possibly our next captain
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Feb 12 @ 2:07 PM ET


It's silly to think you can just tear it down and play all ELC players, what will that get you to, 23 million cap floor.

- LeafMan


Komarov = 3
JVR = 4.1
Gardiner = 4.5
Clarkson = 5.25

There's 16 million already. Not counting what Kadri and Bernier will get.

Hitting the floor will not be an issue, methinks
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:07 PM ET
you'd have to be getting a top 3 pick to move him imo

contract is awesome.. and he is a solid producing big body

- Dozzer


I said sexy that's pretty sexy.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 12 @ 2:07 PM ET
Plus, as much as his deal is great compared to production, he is a huge liability defensively, floats far too much, and therefore part of the entitlement culture...
- aminnes

He was good defensively before Carlyle. I'd like to see if he can get that back.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 12 @ 2:08 PM ET
Quite possibly our next captain
- Bigzby


He should be Tank Captain for the next 4 years, he's the perfect fit...
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:08 PM ET
Quite possibly our next captain
- Bigzby


Sure, why not! He likes the city, he's got.... good hair I guess. I don't know, it all most doesn't matter for the next few years.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:08 PM ET
Yup. And sign more bargain bin guys you can deal at the deadline.
- Feeling Glucky?


load up on guys who can throw up 6 points in 5 weeks

i hear those guys are awesome!



... (frank) i'm incompetent some days
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:09 PM ET
Komarov = 3
JVR = 4.1
Gardiner = 4.5
Clarkson = 5.25

There's 16 million already. Not counting what Kadri and Bernier will get.

Hitting the floor will not be an issue, methinks

- TheThrill

I thought Clark W said to get rid of them all.
sparky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.15.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:10 PM ET
Clarkson will be one of our vets for a long time.
- Jeffmt


The only way Clarkson gets traded is if we trade a good prospect to go along with him to sweeten the pot. the return would be awful but we get rid of a contract, and also a good prospect.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 12 @ 2:10 PM ET
He was good defensively before Carlyle. I'd like to see if he can get that back.
- Feeling Glucky?


He is too lazy, that is not the coaches fault... Whole top line needs to be gone...
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 12 @ 2:10 PM ET
So JVR-Kadri-Clarkson is your first line next year?
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:10 PM ET
load up on guys who can throw up 6 points in 5 weeks

i hear those guys are awesome!



... (frank) i'm incontinent some days

- Dozzer

What?
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Feb 12 @ 2:11 PM ET
The only way Clarkson gets traded is if we trade a good prospect to go along with him to sweeten the pot. the return would be awful but we get rid of a contract, and also a good prospect.
- sparky



Well when we blow this poop up and JVR-Kadri-Clarkson is our top line and top PP unit, his production is BOUND to go up
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Feb 12 @ 2:11 PM ET
Keeping 7 or 8 guys in needed, there is a cap floor. You can't replace everyone with an ELC player.
- LeafMan


true...but JVR and bernier are very tradeable. we are keeping at least some dead money in clarkson etc..and we will fill out a team. But if we keep jvr and bernier, the rebuild takes MUCH longer. those are 2 of the most tradeable guys we have
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Feb 12 @ 2:11 PM ET
So JVR-Kadri-Clarkson is your first line next year?
- BINGO!



YYyyyyyyyyuP!
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:12 PM ET
So JVR-Kadri-Clarkson is your first line next year?
- BINGO!


Leivo Holland komarov #2

Nuked.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:12 PM ET
The only way Clarkson gets traded is if we trade a good prospect to go along with him to sweeten the pot. the return would be awful but we get rid of a contract, and also a good prospect.
- sparky


A rebuild makes his contract pretty irrelevant, and I'm pretty sure that's what you're getting at. I think he's probably a good guy to have around a young team, insane contract notwithstanding. I'm not concerned about Clarkson at all if they're going to tear this down.
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