Shanaban , Please trade the following ....


Santo
Winnick
Bozak
Kessel
Clarkson
Lupul
Franson
Phaneuf
Gardiner
Reimer

and the (frank)ing kitchen sink !
- .HOHO.

Phaneuf, in the right deal can bring back a 1st.
- Mr_Smokey

the right deal doesn't include a brittle aging scorer for a young potentially star forward with size

FWIW, Steve Simmons wrote a similar article earlier this week.
- fifty__missions

So did our very own Walshy. Walshy has more insider accuracy than Simmons.

FWIW, Steve Simmons wrote a similar article earlier this week.
- fifty__missions

I think that his wife wrote it and put his name on it.

Just like Nonis. Any good move is Shanny's doing....

I think that his wife wrote it and put his name on it.

Just like Nonis. Any good move is Shanny's doing....
- lumlums

Simmons has opinions usually different than most people for the sake of being different. I have to listen to him sometimes when tuning into TSN radio.

He actually thought signing Franson NOW is better than a 2nd rounder because it only gives a 23% chance of getting a top 6 forward or top 4 D in 4 years.

Yet, he doesn't seem to understand Franson stops us from winning in the next four years anyway and then he's crap and walks as UFA or retires.

the right deal doesn't include a brittle aging scorer for a young potentially star forward with size
- dt99999

Where to start... well Lupul and Toffoli both have size. Toffoli is going to be a star now? You've ascertained that with his 100 NHL games? Lupul is 31, not exactly old. The only thing you're right about is him being brittle.

Phaneuf, in the right deal can bring back a 1st.
- Mr_Smokey

the only first he's bringing back is the first pick in the second or third round.

Where to start... well Lupul and Toffoli both have size. Toffoli is going to be a star now? You've ascertained that with his 100 NHL games? Lupul is 31, not exactly old. The only thing you're right about is him being brittle.
- Mr_Smokey

ok make the trade.

ok make the trade.
- dt99999

You could just admit you're wrong.

Where to start... well Lupul and Toffoli both have size. Toffoli is going to be a star now? You've ascertained that with his 100 NHL games? Lupul is 31, not exactly old. The only thing you're right about is him being brittle.
- Mr_Smokey

whether 31 is old or not, it's defeinitely "aging". it's an age where a player is reaching the end of his prime, if he's even still in it. between that, his injury history and his contract, his value is not high. you're certainly not getting a 22 year old on pace for nearly 30 goals.

no, I admit I'm arguing with an imbecile.
- dt99999

That proved you wrong....

in terms of player personnel? i highly doubt that. he is in no way qualified to have any say in that. personnel should be left up to Nonis, Dubas and Hunter. that's the management team. the president's job is to put together a management team, not micromanage player personnel.

there's all this talk about Babcock but IMO the best thing for the Leafs would be for them to remove Nonis, install a GM with full autonomy and have the assistants report directly to him. you need one person with the responsibility of putting the hockey club together. committees are trouble.
- DoubleDown

my post stated exactly what you are saying..shanny has a lot of connections and help around him to make these big decisions on players..ie Dubas,Hunter..plus friends like Rob Blake ect..........

Fixed

Now PISS OFF
- .HOHO.

No adult supervision around here today..

no, I admit I'm arguing with an imbecile.
- dt99999

That is worthy of a timeout.

That is worthy of a timeout.
- LeafMan

RIP bro

That is worthy of a timeout.
- LeafMan

Testing 1 ... 2 ... 3

my post stated exactly what you are saying..shanny has a lot of connections and help around him to make these big decisions on players..ie Dubas,Hunter..plus friends like Rob Blake ect..........
- Daddichronic

my assumption is that he brings in a qualified head honcho this summer the way Burke did with Treliving and Linden did with Benning.

my assumption is that he brings in a qualified head honcho this summer the way Burke did with Treliving and Linden did with Benning.
- DoubleDown

His name will be Mr. Mike Babcock. Just an FYI

whether 31 is old or not, it's defeinitely "aging". it's an age where a player is reaching the end of his prime, if he's even still in it. between that, his injury history and his contract, his value is not high. you're certainly not getting a 22 year old on pace for nearly 30 goals.
- DoubleDown

Ageing is open to anyones interpretation. A 31 year old player is not old in my opinion. And An almost 30 goal pace isn't 30 goals and it means nothing until you see how many he finishes with. Maybe 20/25...

His name will be Mr. Mike Babcock. Just an FYI
- bixll

oh great another guy with no NHL front office experience.

my assumption is that he brings in a qualified head honcho this summer the way Burke did with Treliving and Linden did with Benning.
- DoubleDown

I think regardless of what happens with Nonis, we are in for a pretty bad couple years.

We are all on board with tanking and shedding as much of this dead weight as we can. the reality is that we are going to get very little that is exciting or interesting in return. Draft picks aren't going to keep us entertained for at least a few years.

If they do this right, I think I am going to have to pick a new team to cheer for for a while.

oh great another guy with no NHL front office experience.
- DoubleDown

But we will give him a chance and all the support he wants.

...err...real trade?
- Colin Dambrauskas

NHL officials an everything

Broll and Ashton for conditional 7th

I think regardless of what happens with Nonis, we are in for a pretty bad couple years.

We are all on board with tanking and shedding as much of this dead weight as we can. the reality is that we are going to get very little that is exciting or interesting in return. Draft picks aren't going to keep us entertained for at least a few years.

If they do this right, I think I am going to have to pick a new team to cheer for for a while.
- Aetherial

WPG!

my hopes for babcock just went up
he will want to coach mcdavid