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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 12 @ 1:58 AM ET
I've never seen a more divisive trade... some think the jets got robbed, some think that bogosian sucks, Kane is overrated and the Sabres got owned... it's uncanny...
- lumlums


If the Jets waited a bit longer, they could have got somebody else to give them more. What they did was a "win now" type of move but the guys they got aren't even going to really help them do that either.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 12 @ 1:59 AM ET
Says John Ferguson Jr....
- Byfuglien Ate Me


If anybody knows what a robbery is, it's JFJ.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:03 AM ET
If anybody knows what a robbery is, it's JFJ.
- JohnFergusonJr




I dunno, that Bernier Trade looks to have been a big deal for Nonis.

Bernier was a steal.
Lee Denault
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Time to get Schwifty
Joined: 11.16.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:10 AM ET
2 prospects (one a top prospect) and a 1st...how is this just a win now move?

Its both present and future move.

Jfj with another gem
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:10 AM ET
Says John Ferguson Jr....


Edit: The Jets hustled Buffalo like Tim Murray got dropped off at Selikirk Ave in the North End of WPG.

- Byfuglien Ate Me

Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 12 @ 2:11 AM ET
If the Jets waited a bit longer, they could have got somebody else to give them more. What they did was a "win now" type of move but the guys they got aren't even going to really help them do that either.
- JohnFergusonJr

Bah....Jets got an awfully good deal.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:12 AM ET
If the Jets waited a bit longer, they could have got somebody else to give them more. What they did was a "win now" type of move but the guys they got aren't even going to really help them do that either.
- JohnFergusonJr


Kane was clearly a guy who the team wanted gone, and Armia is a good guy to get as a prospect in return. Myers replaces bogosian (who is overrated IMO), and 'Peg gets another pick in a good draft... that might be what defines the trade...
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:14 AM ET
Bah....Jets got an awfully good deal.
- Jeropotato


As it stands I gotta think that Jets win this. Buffalo got the guy they wanted, but he's gonna have to sort his poop out and become a pro real fast there....
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:35 AM ET
Kane was clearly a guy who the team wanted gone, and Armia is a good guy to get as a prospect in return. Myers replaces bogosian (who is overrated IMO), and 'Peg gets another pick in a good draft... that might be what defines the trade...
- lumlums


If Bogosian is overrated and overpaid, so is Myers. Stafford is garbage and a UFA. That leaves it to a couple of middle prospects and a late 1st rounder to be better than a guy who has already proven to be a 20-30 goal scorer.

Tyler Seguin got moved for "attitude" problems too and now he's 2nd in the league in points. P. Kane didn't get moved by Chicago and he's in 1st. E. Kane won't be as good as Seguin or P. Kane but it won't be very hard for Kane to be better than mid/late 1st round / 2nd round type prospects who look to be 2nd/3rd line players at best.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 12 @ 6:40 AM ET
I hate how Champs only have Kessel, Phaneuf, JVR, Kadri. Clarkson, Lupul jerseys.

I went yesterday looking for Rielly, and nothing.

I look at them and I say...

Phaneuf - might get traded.
Kessel - might get traded
JVR - you never know..
Clarkson - lol
Kadri - might get traded
Lupul - always hurt, most likely gone after this year


only two jerseys I'd purchase are Rielly & Nylander.

- MCharisma91


and what did they say?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 12 @ 7:07 AM ET
and what did they say?
- dt99999


"(frank) cares brah?"
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 12 @ 7:28 AM ET
Conviction is the key word here. Legally an employer cannot dismiss an employee based on initial charges. After the person maybe found guilty, yes, they have the right to dismiss.
- sloppyseconds2




It's a good thing that's exactly what I said.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 12 @ 7:30 AM ET
It's a good thing that's exactly what I said.
- burn



what's this all about? are you guys prosecuting players for their lousy play now?
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 12 @ 7:31 AM ET
PHIL KESSEL!! FOR YOUR CRIMES YOU ARE SENTENCED TO.... A CONTRACT EXTENSION WITH THE LEAFS!!!!!!





NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 12 @ 7:37 AM ET
PHIL KESSEL!! FOR YOUR CRIMES YOU ARE SENTENCED TO.... A CONTRACT EXTENSION WITH THE LEAFS!!!!!!





NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- dt99999



Good one.. Anything else..?
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Feb 12 @ 7:37 AM ET
No, I am totally against violence against women. What I'm saying, some of these gold-diggers get their hooks into some of these high end athlete's and then want to take half of their earnings, while bringing nothing into the relationships. It's been seen in many sports and entertainment personalities. It's their own fault, but sometimes blackmail comes into the equation and sometimes, the trophy girlfriend decides to make their quarry jealous. Yes, it's totally wrong, but there is more to some of these stories than you'll ever know. That's why they usually get settled out of court and a non disclosure agreement follows. The gold-digger wins and the entertainer/sports personality gets hosed.
- PrinceLH


Someone's watching too much Bill Burr stand-up.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 12 @ 7:44 AM ET
Good one.. Anything else..?
- bixll

i've got TONS more just like this one
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 12 @ 7:46 AM ET
i've got TONS more just like this one
- dt99999



Give us more of this GOLD..
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 12 @ 7:49 AM ET
Give us more of this GOLD..
- bixll


I dole out this torture slowly
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 12 @ 7:50 AM ET
If the Jets waited a bit longer, they could have got somebody else to give them more. What they did was a "win now" type of move but the guys they got aren't even going to really help them do that either.
- JohnFergusonJr


Win now?

How is it a win now move when they acquired prospects, a first round pick and replaced Bogosian with Myers?

I don't get it.

Also, pretty sure Kane has been on the market for quite some time now. Not sure they could have gotten more.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 12 @ 7:50 AM ET
If the Jets waited a bit longer, they could have got somebody else to give them more. What they did was a "win now" type of move but the guys they got aren't even going to really help them do that either.
- JohnFergusonJr



Getting a 1st and prospects is only win now?
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:01 AM ET
Win now?

How is it a win now move when they acquired prospects, a first round pick and replaced Bogosian with Myers?

I don't get it.

Also, pretty sure Kane has been on the market for quite some time now. Not sure they could have gotten more.

- Pecafan Fan



they made out pretty good all things considered.

I think Buffalo wins the trade based on the skill they got back but really for Win they had to make a deadline-seller deal without blowing their chances this year completely.

WOuld have been tough to do with any other team that that tire fire in Buffalo
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Feb 12 @ 8:02 AM ET
Getting a 1st and prospects is only win now?
- burn


Yeah, they really set themselves up well. E. Kane has a higher ceiling, but with Buf and Meyers back there, and getting picks and prospects? I'm super-jealous.

Will be rooting for the Jets in the playoffs if they make it.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 12 @ 8:04 AM ET
If Bogosian is overrated and overpaid, so is Myers. Stafford is garbage and a UFA. That leaves it to a couple of middle prospects and a late 1st rounder to be better than a guy who has already proven to be a 20-30 goal scorer.

Tyler Seguin got moved for "attitude" problems too and now he's 2nd in the league in points. P. Kane didn't get moved by Chicago and he's in 1st. E. Kane won't be as good as Seguin or P. Kane but it won't be very hard for Kane to be better than mid/late 1st round / 2nd round type prospects who look to be 2nd/3rd line players at best.

- JohnFergusonJr

I think Winnipeg won that deal by a fair margarin. Kane is injured all the time and has a terrible attitude. Seguin just wanted to party. Kane just is a douche to everyone on the team. Myers is a top 4 D who will probobly become a top pairing, Armia(in the Sabres thread they raved about this kid before the trade), Lemieux a first round pick last year, Stafford a layer who can be used in the top 9, and a first in a deep draft
Popcorn Kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.21.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:10 AM ET
lets just get it over and grab the 3rd round pick for Santorelli and the 3rd round pick for Winnik and the 2nd and some scrub who will never leave the AHL for Franson.. You know its coming and that is all it will be E5
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