Yup, have to see who they end up getting with that pick. It just seemed to be too much considering the whole Kane drama in WPG.
- wolfhounds

Again, the player taken is irrelevant, and there's no guarantee that the Sabres take the same player. Just have to base it on it's value at the time of the trade.

They have that extra first now so they could package to move up or even maybe get another asset for the playoffs.
- J35Bacher

Step right over here, Mr. Coburn.

I don't know what you do for a living but if your title isn't "NHL GM" your talents are being wasted.
- Scoob

Agreed, but it's probably a 20-26 pick. Still nice, but not a lottery pick.
- jmatchett383

That's Giroux territory.

I don't know what you do for a living but if your title isn't "NHL GM" your talents are being wasted.
- Scoob

Step 1: Trade all of our players for draft picks
Step 2: Ice AHL team for the rest of the season
Step 3: If AHL players ever lose a game, trade all of the AHL players (except Stortini, who is untradeable) for more draft picks
Step 4: Ice team of draft picks
Step 5: At draft, use draft picks to draft players
Step 6: Trade all of the newly drafted players for draft picks.

That's Giroux territory.
- Scoob

It is. But it doesn't matter, because only top-5 picks ever yield superstars.

Step 1: Trade all of our players for draft picks
Step 2: Ice AHL team for the rest of the season
Step 3: If AHL players ever lose a game, trade all of the AHL players (except Stortini, who is untradeable) for more draft picks
Step 4: Ice team of draft picks
Step 5: At draft, use draft picks to draft players
Step 6: Trade all of the newly drafted players for draft picks.
- jmatchett383

Step 7: ??
Step 8: Win Cup every year

Step 7: ??
Step 8: Win Cup every year
- Scoob

Step 7 is "Complain that all of the players we trade win a Cup somewhere else."

Step 7 is "Complain that all of the players we trade win a Cup somewhere else."
- jmatchett383

Step 7b: Complain that they left their cooties in the building when they left and that's why the team still sucks

Step 7b: Complain that they left their cooties in the building when they left and that's why the team still sucks
- Scoob

Well, at some point, you need to demolish the building and build a new one to get the reek of Mike Richards out of there. They can play their home games at XFinity Live while the new arena is being built.

Again, the player taken is irrelevant, and there's no guarantee that the Sabres take the same player. Just have to base it on it's value at the time of the trade.
- jmatchett383

What then is the value of a 1st round pick?

Well, at some point, you need to demolish the building and build a new one to get the reek of Mike Richards out of there. They can play their home games at XFinity Live while the new arena is being built.
- jmatchett383

As bad as the Flyers are right now, it does bring me some solace knowing that the Maple Leafs are in even worse shape. Of course, they've won the last 4 December Cups.

What then is the value of a 1st round pick?
- wolfhounds

david perron.

flyers should be asking for JVR back

david perron.
- stayinthefnnet

He's been good for you guys, right? I liked that deal

As bad as the Flyers are right now, it does bring me some solace knowing that the Maple Leafs are in even worse shape. Of course, they've won the last 4 December Cups.
- jmatchett383

That is for sure. It's even better living in Toronto and listening to the fans and media cry about it

What then is the value of a 1st round pick?
- wolfhounds

The exact value of a first round pick is as feasible to figure out as the exact value of Braydon Coburn. It's totally debateable.

Like I was saying, the Flyers traded the 27th pick in 2008 for Steve Eminger. But they didn't trade John Carlson, that's just what Washington did with the pick. Had the Caps picked Daultan Leveille, it still didn't change the value of what the Flyers traded.

He's been good for you guys, right? I liked that deal
- AllInForFlyers

basically the only guy on the team that i dont want to kick in the Richard right now.

david perron.
- stayinthefnnet

I thought Klinkhammer was the centerpiece of that trade.

basically the only guy on the team that i dont want to kick in the Richard right now.
- stayinthefnnet

I'm sure Rinaldo would be more than happy to assist you in this.

The exact value of a first round pick is as feasible to figure out as the exact value of Braydon Coburn. It's totally debateable.

Like I was saying, the Flyers traded the 27th pick in 2008 for Steve Eminger. But they didn't trade John Carlson, that's just what Washington did with the pick. Had the Caps picked Daultan Leveille, it still didn't change the value of what the Flyers traded.
- jmatchett383

yeah. this, exactly. people dont understand this enough.

hindsight cant really factor into the equation. the value needs to be decided based at the current moment.

Step 7 is "Complain that all of the players we trade win a Cup somewhere else."
- jmatchett383

C'mon. That's over blown. Former Flyers have only had their names scratched into the Cup 16 times in the last 5 years.

I thought Klinkhammer was the centerpiece of that trade.
- jmatchett383

i actually liked him.

hes better than anyone on their 4th currently.

hell, half the people on this board probably are.

basically the only guy on the team that i dont want to kick in the Richard right now.
- stayinthefnnet

Ha! So, Pouliot looks good too, right? That's promising

The Pens might be playing possum a little, trying to conserve some energy for the playoffs -- you know I usually mock them, but I think they have a decent setup right now unless someone got hurt that I don't know about