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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 11 @ 12:56 PM ET
how do you think they got their defense
omg by making trades and dumping spare parts like gomez

- 2Real


How do you think the Flyers got their defense?

Coburn, Streit, AMac, Grossmann, Luke Schenn?

OMG BY MAKING TRADES!

The Gomez deal was horrible at the time, but remember that McDonagh was a spare part throw in, Higgins was the big piece.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 11 @ 12:57 PM ET
well i get you're not one of those blind homers
- 2Real

hab fans didn't like that on the other sites. One said Giroux for Gal
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 11 @ 12:57 PM ET
I thought Steve Mason was the best goalie in the league according to some here
also people here say coburn is a number 1 defender

- 2Real


There isn't a person on this boad who has said either of these things
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 11 @ 12:57 PM ET
That's where I am, especially short term because Rick Nash Jr. isn't even playing
- AllInForFlyers



still goes to show you that someone was going to pay the freight.

although the inclusion of bogo is big.

i dont know. im torn on it. im not a huge myers guy, but i do think he could have pulled in a good bit himself.

stafford isnt worth much to me. as a rental he could have been moved for maybe a 3rd?

then you have the two prospects. not too familiar with the one, but armia at least had some buzz about him. nothing earth shattering though.

a first is nothing to laugh at, even if it was the lowest one they had.

but kane and bogo are 2 solid, solid assets.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 11 @ 12:57 PM ET
No, cause they wanted our 2014 1st and our 2015 1st as well.

Sanheim + Simmonds + 2015 1st > Ekblad, even though he's great.

- Feanor



that was the proposed deal? yeah giving up the 2015 would be something I wouldn't have wanted to do
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Feb 11 @ 12:57 PM ET
No no it can't be a democrat wanting to start a war? I thought George Bush and his buddies only started war.
- 2Real


Please continue...



Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Feb 11 @ 12:57 PM ET
how do you think they got their defense
omg by making trades and dumping spare parts like gomez

- 2Real


I'm still waking up at night cursing our previous GM for that blunder ... Ryan McDonagh would look very good on our blue line right now.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 11 @ 12:58 PM ET
still goes to show you that someone was going to pay the freight.
- stayinthefnnet


So happy it wasn't the Flyers.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Feb 11 @ 12:58 PM ET
How do you think the Flyers got their defense?

Coburn, Streit, AMac, Grossmann, Luke Schenn?

OMG BY MAKING TRADES!

The Gomez deal was horrible at the time, by McDonagh was a spare part throw in, Higgins was the big piece.

- jmatchett383


Welcome to Wonderland!

I'll trade you one MadHatter for whatever you've got in your wallet right now!
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 11 @ 12:59 PM ET
I'm still waking up at night cursing our previous GM for that blunder ... Ryan McDonagh would look very good on our blue line right now.
- Garfield512

flyers traded a 30 goal left wingers for a traffic cone
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
flyers traded a 30 goal left wingers for a traffic cone
- Winning


Correction: A highly-paid traffic cone.

Edit: They've actually traded 2 30-goal left wingers for 2 highly-paid traffic cones.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
so to Buffalo:
Kane 37 GP 10-12-22
Bogosian 41 GP 3-10-13
Kasdor - RPI (ECAC) Junior - career 24-20-2 2.31

to Winnipeg
Myers 47 GP 4-9-13
Stafford 50 GP 9-15-24
LemieuX OHL - 46 GP 35-15-50 - career 153 GP - 68-49-117
Armia - AHL - 33 GP 10-15-25 - career - 87 GP 17-35-52 - 1 NHL game
First rounder belonging to St Louis or the Isles


Honestly I think Winnipeg did quite well.

- nastyflyergirl


That deal is nuts.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
I'm still waking up at night cursing our previous GM for that blunder ... Ryan McDonagh would look very good on our blue line right now.
- Garfield512

you should be enjoying the team you have now

that poop is crying over spilt milk and the Habs are looking great this year

of course we are guilty too
JVR for L Schenn... still read about this every week
some still bring up the Patrick Sharp deal

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
flyers traded a 30 goal left wingers for a traffic cone
- Winning


Counterpoint: He's a right handed traffic cone. Very important.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
still goes to show you that someone was going to pay the freight.

although the inclusion of bogo is big.

i dont know. im torn on it. im not a huge myers guy, but i do think he could have pulled in a good bit himself.

stafford isnt worth much to me. as a rental he could have been moved for maybe a 3rd?

then you have the two prospects. not too familiar with the one, but armia at least had some buzz about him. nothing earth shattering though.

a first is nothing to laugh at, even if it was the lowest one they had.

but kane and bogo are 2 solid, solid assets.

- stayinthefnnet



Its funny but I look at the trade from the Winnipeg side and think they did well. then I look at it from the Buffalo side and get why they did what they did and also considering they had the pick and prospects to deal. so maybe this ends up being one of those moves where both sides are quite happy
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
That deal is nuts.
- Tomahawk

a beaut

a blast from the precap past
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
still goes to show you that someone was going to pay the freight.

although the inclusion of bogo is big.

i dont know. im torn on it. im not a huge myers guy, but i do think he could have pulled in a good bit himself.

stafford isnt worth much to me. as a rental he could have been moved for maybe a 3rd?

then you have the two prospects. not too familiar with the one, but armia at least had some buzz about him. nothing earth shattering though.

a first is nothing to laugh at, even if it was the lowest one they had.

but kane and bogo are 2 solid, solid assets.

- stayinthefnnet


It's net neutral on the face of it, to me -- Myers is better than Bogosian, to me.

Kane has real potential and upside, and has scored 30. But the offset are the prospects -- Joel Armia has tools -- and they get a pick

Probably going to be net neutral, when it is all said and done
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
you should be enjoying the team you have now

that poop is crying over spilt milk and the Habs are looking great this year

of course we are guilty too
JVR for L Schenn... still read about this every week
some still bring up the Patrick Sharp deal

- Marc D


Well, the Flyers have never made a good trade or draft pick.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
how do you think they got their defense
omg by making trades and dumping spare parts like gomez

- 2Real


Exactly. Your GM has to get off his ass and make moves
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Feb 11 @ 1:03 PM ET
flyers traded a 30 goal left wingers for a traffic cone
- Winning

Yeah ... I guess every team has brain cramps once in a while.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 11 @ 1:03 PM ET
It's net neutral on the face of it, to me -- Myers is better than Bogosian, to me.

Kane has real potential and upside, and has scored 30. But the offset are the prospects -- Joel Armia has tools -- and they get a pick

Probably going to be net neutral, when it is all said and done

- AllInForFlyers


I'd rather have Bogosian, but when you include injuries, it's a wash.

Armia had fallen out in Buffalo, Stafford is a 3rd liner on a deeper team, but they will help the team both now and in the future. Throw in Lemieux and the 1st for Kane and I think Winnipeg gets the better end.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
Yeah ... I guess every team has brain cramps once in a while.
- Garfield512

Flyers trade 1st round pick which turned into John Carlson for Steven freaking Eminger
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
Staying out of the Buffalo board, as they're convinced they just fleeced Buffalo (I said the same thing at first, didn't see the 1st was included).
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
I'd rather have Bogosian, but when you include injuries, it's a wash.

Armia had fallen out in Buffalo, Stafford is a 3rd liner on a deeper team, but they will help the team both now and in the future. Throw in Lemieux and the 1st for Kane and I think Winnipeg gets the better end.

- jmatchett383


This is a legit interpretation, as well -- some people could absolutely prefer Bogosian to Myers
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
a beaut

a blast from the precap past

- Marc D



No kidding.
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