Wow.

No thx
- hugefemaledog77

I agree I didnt really think it out but the truth is Dougie Hamilton is exactly what Edmonton needs. I dont think giving up Eberle really hurts that much. The draft picks make no sense. So i'll try again

Eberle + 2nd for Hamilton straight up? I dont think Boston does this, if you change that second to Pitts first maybe?

Eberle + Yak + 2nd for Hamilton and Spooner - Probably just total BS makes no sense

Eberle + Yak + Kelfbom for Hamilton and Subban if your Edmonton you have to think very hard about this and same with Boston.

Keep in mind Edmonton will be getting another top 3 pick this year,

I agree I didnt really think it out but the truth is Dougie Hamilton is exactly what Edmonton needs. I dont think giving up Eberle really hurts that much. The draft picks make no sense. So i'll try again

Eberle + 2nd for Hamilton straight up? I dont think Boston does this, if you change that second to Pitts first maybe?

Eberle + Yak + 2nd for Hamilton and Spooner - Probably just total BS makes no sense

Eberle + Yak + Kelfbom for Hamilton and Subban if your Edmonton you have to think very hard about this and same with Boston.

Keep in mind Edmonton will be getting another top 3 pick this year,
- DinoRondelly

Even if they wanted to do any of those trades, which I can almost guarantee they wouldn't, Boston literally could not afford to take on that salary while moving out Hamilton and Subban's minimal cap hits.

Even if they wanted to do any of those trades, which I can almost guarantee they wouldn't, Boston literally could not afford to take on that salary while moving out Hamilton and Subban's minimal cap hits.
- eichiefs9

Its a starting point, Edmonton could take a salary dump like Kelly or Eriksson no problem at that point,

Its a starting point, Edmonton could take a salary dump like Kelly or Eriksson no problem at that point,
- DinoRondelly

Erikson and Hamilton !!

Eberle and pits first?

Done and done

But seriously, is prob do Ebs and Pitts first for Hamilton.
I'd strongly consider it anyway

Erikson and Hamilton !!

Eberle and pits first?

Done and done

But seriously, is prob do Ebs and Pitts first for Hamilton.
I'd strongly consider it anyway
- hugefemaledog77

U could consider it all day & night, but BOS wouldn't ......

I dunno. Not that high on subban. Maybe it's just me.
I don't think he's leagues ahead of brossoit who's been playing very well in the A.
Plus, we don't have to give up valuable assets for brossoit in relation to subban who's only far ahead in terms of pedigree . If you get my meaning here.

U could consider it all day & night, but BOS wouldn't ......
- Ur Not Me

Fair enough. But I didn't propose it.

Asking why the oilers arent great already and then following that question up with why wont we trade the kids we do have for more draft picks, seems pretty silly imo

Rackell, Ritchie, Shea Theodore, and their first

Myers and Larsson

-hanleyaj


- hugefemaledog77

WTF?

You vastly overestimate what the oilers have up front.
we lose hall, our 1lw is Pouliot.

We also need possession driving forwards.

and again this comes back to what you're calling fact as jones true superstar. He's not. And he's certainly not worth Hall + to the oilers.

we have far more quality prospects on the backend then we do up front. We struggle to score already.
someone offering us oel or hedman etc for hall? Let's talk.
but until jones is that, or if he ever is, the oilers lose the trade badly.

So since we have some pieces hopefully in place, we wait on the others. Not gut one to hopefully fill another.
- hugefemaledog77

You know i love ya, but I would do the Hall for Jones trade I think

yea because the one thing the oilers need most is torey krug, an offensive defenseman.

as bad as it sounds, phaneuf would help the oilers more than krug. they need a minute munching dman, someone preferably like bouwmeester.


yakupov + nikitin for phaneuf?

We're not just building it around a winger, we're building it around nuge and hopefully nurse, eberle, draisatil and klefbom as well.

Robbing Peter to hopefully pay Paul isn't the answer.

Even if we get McEichel, I'll wager anytging we don't move hall.
It'll either be the pick or one of nuge/draisatil going for an established 1d
- hugefemaledog77

I get the reasoning... I just think Jones is going to be a more impactful player long term.

WTF?
- Aetherial

He's thrown out some beauty's.

They've taken their self convinced 'dealing from a position of strength' and that they 'don't need to move him' to new levels.

Jeff Gordon of the St. Louis Post Dispatch: With Kevin Shattenkirk out for a while, the Blues could look at bringing in a defenseman. Potential targets that are believed to be available: Zybnek Michalek, Tyler Myers, Dion Phaneuf, Cody Franson, Mike Green, Keith Yandle, Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Andrej Sekera, Jordan Leopold, Jeff Petry and Kimmo Timonen.
- Flyfreaky

Cue the Franson for Berglund roomers

I get the reasoning... I just think Jones is going to be a more impactful player long term.
- Aetherial

This is totally reasonable.
And he very well may be.

But for so many of the reasons I suggested, the gamble isn't worth it imo.

You know i love ya, but I would do the Hall for Jones trade I think
- Aetherial

Totally get it brah.

As I said, I get the premise of buddy's argument.
Just not sure I agree with his conjecture

yea because the one thing the oilers need most is torey krug, an offensive defenseman.

as bad as it sounds, phaneuf would help the oilers more than krug. they need a minute munching dman, someone preferably like bouwmeester.


yakupov + nikitin for phaneuf?
- sensnucksnocups

Phaneuf would help us more than Krug.
And I'd love to ditch Niktins contract.

But dions contract is an abortion, I just don't think we could take it on.

Cue the Franson for Berglund roomers
- Aetherial

If petry tells us he's walkin, I'd take berglund at the td

You guys keep saying no more prospects and no more picks. That's my problem. I have no problem with a patient approach, but don't say you don't want more prospects or picks.

Given your timeline, I guess I just don't understand why you guys don't want to move Ebs. I can understand building around Hall, but Ebs is replaceable IMO. You guys can skewer me for that if you want but to me he is one dimensional and not the stud player that Hall is
- uf1910

Not saying I dont want them, but if we have a shot at an OEL for example, for a 1st round pick it would help things along very,very well.

What if that prospect was Subban?

Krug, Subban and a high pick for Eberle? Potentially solve the Oilers goaltender woes?
- willey101

I would think krug and subban for ebs would be fair. Oilers get the d' man they need and goalie. All the hype on ebs and top minutes he gets and krug is almost equal 1.5 pts. per game.rask is the goalie for the next ten years so it works out for both teams. get it done

Totally get it brah.

As I said, I get the premise of buddy's argument.
Just not sure I agree with his conjecture
- hugefemaledog77

and admittedly, you have much more in D prospects coming up than forwards, so yeah removing Hall would leave a pretty big hole to fill.

If petry tells us he's walkin, I'd take berglund at the td
- hugefemaledog77

I would hope you can do better. Berglund is a pretty mediocre center. You would be better off with a 2nd round pick if you can get it.

I would think krug and subban for ebs would be fair. Oilers get the d' man they need and goalie. All the hype on ebs and top minutes he gets and krug is almost equal 1.5 pts. per game.rask is the goalie for the next ten years so it works out for both teams. get it done
- bosman

I'm far from convinced subban steps in and doesn't get lit behind this defence.

Point is, why move ebs unless we're getting a defender that's not for sure making a big impact at both ends?
Krug is talented and I really like him. But is he in a different class than Schultz? Another offensive pp guy who doesn't get to play behind chara, seidenberg, Hamilton etc? But petry and klefbom instea.

I just don't like subban as the added value to equal what we lose. Maybe I'm under rating him.
Plus, I like brossoit. Who might not be the answer but isn't far below subban imo.

Jones, lehner, Anderson etc? Semi proven blue chippers? Fuk yeah

I would hope you can do better. Berglund is a pretty mediocre center. You would be better off with a 2nd round pick if you can get it.
- Aetherial

You think?

Couple things;
Right off the hop maybe I think berglund is abit better than you do.

But he could be a very capable 3c here taking some pressure off Gordon and adding to our brutal c depth.

also, much more inclined to get a proven nhl'er on the oilers than a pick that might help in a few years

.@TSNBobMcKenzie says on @TSN1050Radio that the asking price for Cody Franson is apparently a 1st Round Pick and a prospect. #Leafs
6:25 PM - 10 Feb 2015