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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:43 AM ET
How would you play when no one likes you on the team and vice versa. He needs to be in a place that will help him grow. I think with our rebuild in full swing and ready to make the jump soon he would be an immense boost to our team for next year.

No one is Drew Stafford like...no one haha

- Beezer33


2010-11 Buffalo Sabres NHL 62 31 21 52
2011-12 Buffalo Sabres NHL 80 20 30 50 46 5
2012-13 Buffalo Sabres NHL 46 6 12 18 21 -16
2013-14 Buffalo Sabres NHL 70 16 18 34 39 -19
2014-15 Buffalo Sabres NHL 50 9 15 24 39 -18

2010-11 Atlanta Thrashers NHL 73 19 24 43 68 -12 -- -- -- -- --
2011-12 Winnipeg Jets NHL 74 30 27 57 53 11 -- -- -- -- --
2012-13 Winnipeg Jets NHL 48 17 16 33 80 -3 -- -- -- -- --
2013-14 Winnipeg Jets NHL 63 19 22 41 66 -7 -- -- -- -- --
2014-15 Winnipeg Jets* NHL 37 10 12 22 56 -1

1 30 goal season each last 5 years

Kane out scored Stafford 95 goals to 82 and total points 196 to 178

Do you really want to pay that much for 13 more goals and 18 more points?

Like I said proven star? He is not
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:44 AM ET
Kane can score 30 and has. Hall has never done that. Hall is better than Kane but Kane has proven he can play at this level for good. See Seguin for reference
- Beezer33

You are probably the only person on the planet that would consider taking Kane over Hall.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 11 @ 9:44 AM ET
Hall is at .88 PPG over his career. Kane is at .61.

I'd take Hall over Kane and never look back.

- HonkFortheGoose


Hall not available, Kane is.


Again Kane with McEichel is a dam good top line.

Kane-McEichel-Moulson top line?


Talk about wingers Crosby dreams of having.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:44 AM ET
Schaller passes Flynn next year. There are only so many spots for these kinds of guys and we seem to have plenty of them.
- Slump Buster


I do not agree with that. I think it is more likely that Schaller takes Mitchell's spot if they do not resign him.

Flynn is fast and always seems to make the right plays. The Sabres are severely lacking in the speed department.
The Don
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Glasgow, VA
Joined: 02.03.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:45 AM ET
A friend of mine said he would do it if they would take Foligno instead of Lemieux. Thoughts?
- HonkFortheGoose


That is more in line with what I was thinking. Although it still parts with guys I don't want to see gone: Myers and Armia.

I know you have to give to get but like others have said, I don't think TM will want to part with Lemieux as he is one of his picks. Players and prospects from the Regier era are far more likely.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:45 AM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 2m2 minutes ago
BUF has assets to work with: 1st-rd picks (NYI and STL); prospects such as Joel Armia, rental wingers Chris Stewart/Drew Stafford, PLUS...

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m1 minute ago
...If BUF opts to put Tyler Myers into the equation, it will get very interesting for WPG. Anyway, BUF is aggressively pursuing.

Bob is authority. I trust no one else as much.

- TheSabresTaco


As long as Myers isn't in the deal...

mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 11 @ 9:45 AM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 2m2 minutes ago
BUF has assets to work with: 1st-rd picks (NYI and STL); prospects such as Joel Armia, rental wingers Chris Stewart/Drew Stafford, PLUS...

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m1 minute ago
...If BUF opts to put Tyler Myers into the equation, it will get very interesting for WPG. Anyway, BUF is aggressively pursuing.

Bob is authority. I trust no one else as much.

- TheSabresTaco



Based on Mckenzie's tweet here it could happen.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:45 AM ET
A friend of mine said he would do it if they would take Foligno instead of Lemieux. Thoughts?
- HonkFortheGoose


Yes I would.

Foligno is expendable all day
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Feb 11 @ 9:45 AM ET
You are probably the only person on the planet that would consider taking Kane over Hall.
- Cptmjl


I would agree with this - I'd also want Hall over Kane. But those guys aren't available and thus I don't see why we are talking about it. Also, even if they were we would have to give up significantly more to get them.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:45 AM ET
2010-11 Buffalo Sabres NHL 62 31 21 52
2011-12 Buffalo Sabres NHL 80 20 30 50 46 5
2012-13 Buffalo Sabres NHL 46 6 12 18 21 -16
2013-14 Buffalo Sabres NHL 70 16 18 34 39 -19
2014-15 Buffalo Sabres NHL 50 9 15 24 39 -18

2010-11 Atlanta Thrashers NHL 73 19 24 43 68 -12 -- -- -- -- --
2011-12 Winnipeg Jets NHL 74 30 27 57 53 11 -- -- -- -- --
2012-13 Winnipeg Jets NHL 48 17 16 33 80 -3 -- -- -- -- --
2013-14 Winnipeg Jets NHL 63 19 22 41 66 -7 -- -- -- -- --
2014-15 Winnipeg Jets* NHL 37 10 12 22 56 -1

1 30 goal season each last 5 years

Kane out scored Stafford 95 goals to 82 and total points 196 to 178

Do you really want to pay that much for 13 more goals and 18 more points?

Like I said proven star? He is not

- Stripes77


He brings more to the table than Stafford. But yeah. I'm having a lot of trouble grasping the 'proven' star thing. More like potentially great.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:46 AM ET
E. Kane-McEichel-Ennis
Moulson-Reinhart-Grigorenko
Foligno-Girgensons-Larsson
McCormick/Kaleta-Schaller-Gionta

This is what I would like to see next year. Obviously for developmental reasons we will not but it gives you a potential projected lineup. Now remember we also would have: Fasching, Compher, Baptiste, Lemieux, Bailey, Hurley and this years draft picks already in system as well. I am hoping when Gionta's contract is up is around time we should be making a good run with a new young core all set

My Kane deal was: Kane for STL/NYI 1st, Stewart or Stafford, Armia

We have so many prospects it is hard to be mad if we give up him for someone already proven in the league and better most likely
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:46 AM ET
Yup. A two-way power forward that has the ability to put in 40 goals and punch you in the face afterward? Isn't that why teams are lining up to get this guy?
- Slump Buster


When kane hits 40 goals in a season, let me know. I am far from sold on that happening.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:46 AM ET
Hall not available, Kane is.


Again Kane with McEichel is a dam good top line.

Kane-McEichel-Moulson top line?


Talk about wingers Crosby dreams of having.

- ImThatGuy


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:46 AM ET
You are probably the only person on the planet that would consider taking Kane over Hall.
- Cptmjl


That's because Ott is NOT being traded to STL.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 11 @ 9:46 AM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 2m2 minutes ago
BUF has assets to work with: 1st-rd picks (NYI and STL); prospects such as Joel Armia, rental wingers Chris Stewart/Drew Stafford, PLUS...

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m1 minute ago
...If BUF opts to put Tyler Myers into the equation, it will get very interesting for WPG. Anyway, BUF is aggressively pursuing.

Bob is authority. I trust no one else as much.

- TheSabresTaco


McKenzie is pretty reliable. Things are about to get very interesting I think....
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:46 AM ET
You are probably the only person on the planet that would consider taking Kane over Hall.
- Cptmjl



I would take Hall over Kane all day long and never said I wouldnt. I was simply stressing the point that Kane is proven in the league and def needs a change of scenary
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:47 AM ET
I would agree with this. However, I'd also want Hall over Kane. But those guys aren't available and thus I don't see why we are talking about it. Also, even if they were we would have to give up significantly more to get them.
- Slump Buster

What guys aren't available? We all know Kane is available and Hall though injured very well may be available for all anyone knows?
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Feb 11 @ 9:47 AM ET
When kane hits 40 goals in a season, let me know. I am far from sold on that happening.
- kingcong39


I bet he does it if/when he gets to play with a real center.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:47 AM ET
I would agree with this - I'd also want Hall over Kane. But those guys aren't available and thus I don't see why we are talking about it. Also, even if they were we would have to give up significantly more to get them.
- Slump Buster



Exactly.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:47 AM ET
Based on Mckenzie's tweet here it could happen.
- mhp


Bob doesn't open his mouth until there's smoke AND fire.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
A friend of mine said he would do it if they would take Foligno instead of Lemieux. Thoughts?
- HonkFortheGoose


I know Foligno garners a lot of hate, but he is cheap and not getting expensive any time soon and that would allow Buffalo to spend more money elsewhere. Additionally he plays a position of need at LW and he would be just fine as a 3rd line LW, or worst case, a 4th line LW if the kids push him there.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
E. Kane-McEichel-Ennis
Moulson-Reinhart-Grigorenko
Foligno-Girgensons-Larsson
McCormick/Kaleta-Schaller-Gionta

This is what I would like to see next year. Obviously for developmental reasons we will not but it gives you a potential projected lineup. Now remember we also would have: Fasching, Compher, Baptiste, Lemieux, Bailey, Hurley and this years draft picks already in system as well. I am hoping when Gionta's contract is up is around time we should be making a good run with a new young core all set

My Kane deal was: Kane for STL 1st, Stewart or Stafford, Armia

We have so many prospects it is hard to be mad if we give up him for someone already proven in the league and better most likely

- Beezer33


Girgensons deserves better than the 3rd line right now... He is proving it.

If they took that deal I would be ecstatic but I think they would need more... one of our D prospects probably too.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
He brings more to the table than Stafford. But yeah. I'm having a lot of trouble grasping the 'proven' star thing. More like potentially great.
- TheSabresTaco


I am not sure if he has that great factor. He can be a very good player playing on McEichel's wing, which is why I want him. But I am not sending Myers in a deal for him or Lemieux unless its for something much bigger.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Feb 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
What guys aren't available? We all know Kane is available and Hall though injured very well may be available for all anyone knows?
- Cptmjl


Sure, in theory anyone is available. Hall would cost at least twice what Kane costs.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
Hall is at .88 PPG over his career. Kane is at .61.

I'd take Hall over Kane and never look back.

- HonkFortheGoose


Agreed in a big way Goose.
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