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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 10 @ 3:32 PM ET
Which is exactly what he is. And he isn't good. He is hardly average, if that.
- DynamicThreads


I will say this. I went back to threads over the summer and some at the end of the season.

There were no comments about Hodgson being average. Many complimented him about being one of the only ones to show up.

But he sucks this year so we should just buy him out.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 10 @ 3:33 PM ET
For a one dimensional offensive player, no.
- TheSabresTaco


On a team that was as bad as Buffalo last year. Its pretty damn good.



Add - Ennis is on pace for 44 points this year. Does he suck too? Its not good enough for being a 1 dimensional guy.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 10 @ 3:37 PM ET
On a team that was as bad as Buffalo last year. Its pretty damn good.



Add - Ennis is on pace for 44 points this year. Does he suck too? Its not good enough for being a 1 dimensional guy.

- ImThatGuy



Ennis does play the body at times. I can't say the same for Cody.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 10 @ 3:38 PM ET
No reason to keep Hodgson, he won't be needed.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 10 @ 3:41 PM ET


But he sucks this year so we should just buy him out.

- ImThatGuy

To be more accurate, he worse than sucks.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 10 @ 3:42 PM ET
Hodgson before this year was scoring at the same rate as the guy everyone wants Evander Kane.

.61 PPG


Now he isin't even worth a roster spot next year?


Do we want Kane?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 10 @ 3:42 PM ET
To be more accurate, he worse than sucks.
- BuffaloHardHat


What about the last 2 years when he was the leading scorer on the team?
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 10 @ 3:42 PM ET
Hodgson before this year was scoring at the same rate as the guy everyone wants Evander Kane.

.61 PPG


Now he isin't even worth a roster spot next year?


Do we want Kane?

- ImThatGuy

Yes, more then Hodgson
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 3:48 PM ET
Hodgson before this year was scoring at the same rate as the guy everyone wants Evander Kane.

.61 PPG


Now he isin't even worth a roster spot next year?


Do we want Kane?

- ImThatGuy



One of these two has shown the ability to score 30, hit, fight, and play amicably in their own zone. The other does none of those things.

Yes I'm being that guy.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 3:48 PM ET
Yes, more then Hodgson
- SABRES 89



Way more from my understanding.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 10 @ 3:49 PM ET
What about the last 2 years when he was the leading scorer on the team?
- ImThatGuy

What's more important to me right now is the very bad (lazy) habits he is displaying to some young players on this team.

I don't need his type of person around these young guys that are giving their all game in and game out.

I don't need a guy on my team that only tries when things are good.

I like guys that dig deepest when it's 90 degrees outside and that concrete is hardening quicker than you can keep up with it.
In other words, I want guys around that will give it their all no matter what the circumstances, good or bad.

He's not a team player.

Just my opinion though Guy.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 10 @ 3:51 PM ET
One of these two has shown the ability to score 30, hit, fight, and play amicably in their own zone. The other does none of those things.

Yes I'm being that guy.

- dadeadhead


As AM I

Said guy is also disliked by many of his team mates.


Hodgson before this year was averaging 20 Goals a season with buffalo. (Paid 1.75MM less than Kane per season.

This team is on pace to break last years goal scoring (lack of) record.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 10 @ 3:55 PM ET
As AM I

Said guy is also disliked by many of his team mates.


Hodgson before this year was averaging 20 Goals a season with buffalo. (Paid 1.75MM less than Kane per season.

This team is on pace to break last years goal scoring (lack of) record.

- ImThatGuy



Then the question is why is he scoring less?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 3:56 PM ET
As AM I

Said guy is also disliked by many of his team mates.


Hodgson before this year was averaging 20 Goals a season with buffalo.

This team is on pace to break last years goal scoring (lack of) record

- ImThatGuy



Like the Bills, this organization is not in a position to nitpick players based on whether they are liked or not. They need guys that can play. Coho is a one dimensional guy and he's not doing well at his one trait. >800k cap hit isn't a bad pill to swallow if they can't find a dance partner.

Gunner had a good article written on why you don't win with a player like Hodgson. He and I argee on that subject.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 10 @ 3:58 PM ET
Like the Bills, this organization is not in a position to nitpick plays based on whether they are liked or not. They need guys that can play. Coho is a one dimensional guy and he's not doing well at his one trait. >800k cap hit isn't a bad pill to swallow if they can't find a dance partner.

Gunner had a good article written on why you don't win with a player like Hodgson. He and I argee on that subject.

- dadeadhead


Same things were said about Richards, and Carter. They now have 2 cups.

If he cant score when they Ice an actual team. Then he can be moved/bought out. The guy is 24. Apparently that is old for Hockey now. When did that happen?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 10 @ 4:00 PM ET
Then the question is why is he scoring less?
- thatsapickle


Possible that he and Nolan just don't see eye to eye?

The leading scorer on this team may not even hit 20 goals this season.

Ted Nolans coaching style is defense defense defense (Including the goalie) Which is not Hodgsons strong-suit.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
Same things were said about Richards, and Carter. They now have 2 cups.

If he cant score when they Ice an actual team. Then he can be moved/bought out. The guy is 24. Apparently that is old for Hockey now. When did that happen?

- ImThatGuy



He's not old, he's just not very good. He looks completely disinterested out there. It's why he's glued to the press box as of late.

It happens. I won't miss him when he's gone.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
Possible that he and Nolan just don't see eye to eye?

The leading scorer on this team may not even hit 20 goals this season.

Ted Nolans coaching style is "Do whatever you want" (Including the goalie) Which is not Hodgsons strong-suit.

- ImThatGuy


Fixed...
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Feb 10 @ 4:04 PM ET
Possible that he and Nolan just don't see eye to eye?

The leading scorer on this team may not even hit 20 goals this season.

Ted Nolans coaching style is defense defense defense (Including the goalie) Which is not Hodgsons strong-suit.

- ImThatGuy


Hodgson isn't lazy, he's just not listening to the coaches. He has his own concept of how to play the game and it's not working. So I heard today.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 4:07 PM ET
Hodgson isn't lazy, he's just not listening to the coaches. He has his own concept of how to play the game and it's not working. So I heard today.
- sippyd



In the weight room no he works his tail off.

On the ice, he reminds me of Michal Grosek lite.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 10 @ 4:09 PM ET
He's not old, he's just not very good. He looks completely disinterested out there. It's why he's glued to the press box as of late.

It happens. I won't miss him when he's gone.

- dadeadhead


Note - Didnt say that was from you. Matthew Coller "Hodgson is not young in terms of NHL Players. He is not going to learn anything else"


Maybe he bought hard into the tank. Knowing next year he will get to play with one of Reinhart, or McEichel.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Feb 10 @ 4:10 PM ET
I've tried searching everywhere (missing capgeek) and can't find it. Is hodgson's contract a 1-way contract, or can he be sent down?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 4:13 PM ET
I've tried searching everywhere (missing capgeek) and can't find it. Is hodgson's contract a 1-way contract, or can he be sent down?
- adambuffalo



All a 2 way contract means is that the player makes x amount if in the NHL and a less x amount if in the NHL.

He'd have to clear to be sent down and you only can bury 925k of a players contract.


Also here

http://wayback.archive.or...93007/http://capgeek.com/
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 10 @ 4:13 PM ET
Hodgson isn't lazy, he's just not listening to the coaches. He has his own concept of how to play the game and it's not working. So I heard today.
- sippyd

Typical of the younger generation.

It seriously is.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 10 @ 4:14 PM ET
I've tried searching everywhere (missing capgeek) and can't find it. Is hodgson's contract a 1-way contract, or can he be sent down?
- adambuffalo

http://nhlnumbers.com/
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