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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 10:35 AM ET
And who is still the leader in the room despite what the coach says or does yes. Come on thats common sense.
- jake24242



He was traded for spare parts though.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Feb 9 @ 10:35 AM ET
He needs to give Dee some hits
- homiedclown



Ur tapping Dee....
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 9 @ 10:35 AM ET
Why would the Sabres want to trade Myers? I don't get it, the kid is young and good w/a cap friendly contract...... Myers is the perfect dman who can help mentor the other kids on D..... A young core together is key.....
- Ur Not Me


We don't. To be technical, Murray is not making calls but is listening to offers. He will be sold if he's overpriced. That is all.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Feb 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
You're opening a can
- Pierceme69



but its true.....
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
That would be equivalent to Eller, DeLaRose and 2015 1st for Mtl.

Kane does not worth that at the moment.

Eller (Foligno) and a 1st would be the maximum they would get. Maybe another lesser asset like a B prospect or a 3rd rounder but not much more than that.

- soad_live


but...the sabres have a pretty deep prospect pool and have five picks in the first two rounds of this draft...they have prospects coming out the butt...they could overpay without doing too much damage to their system
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
And who is still the leader in the room despite what the coach says or does yes. Come on thats common sense.
- jake24242


When your captaincy comes into question and is even thought about being stripped, let alone actually happening, that's a sign of things to come. That, sir, is common sense.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Feb 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
We don't. To be technical, Murray is not making calls but is listening to offers. He will be sold if he's overpriced. That is all.
- TheSabresTaco



And really shouldn't regardless....
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 9 @ 10:37 AM ET
Just asking..... U don't think his injuries & character issues hurt his trade value???


just keep in mind, NOT 1 trade has been made where it seemed equal value in recent years....

- Ur Not Me


of course the Injuries and character issue hurt his trade value....The GM can ask for what ever he wants....will he get 3 assets ? maybe....will he get 3 assets like what lawless is suggesting? not a chance....Kane is a big, physical scoring winger who has under performed and has off ice issues that are being questioned by even his own team mates...
It will be interesting to see if the GM gets anything close to that asking price with his teams playoff appearance hanging in the balance....If we were talking a GM with a track record of winning then I would agree with Lawless...But Chevaldae is much like Kane... He hasn't proved anything yet....he hasn't even made the playoffs?

I liken back to what the Flyers got for Lindros.....a decent young d man....a B type of prospect that was bordering on flop and a draft pick.....Kane hardly has the pedigree of Lindros...
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Feb 9 @ 10:37 AM ET
Clearly you need to read up on what rentals have been going for in the past...

A 2nd rounder is the minimum he goes for

- Stripes77


Clearly you overvalue a 3rd liner So i guess winnik on the leafs is getting a first rounder 21 points +11 can play center and excellent penalty killer.
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Feb 9 @ 10:38 AM ET
When your captaincy comes into question and is even thought about being stripped, let alone actually happening, that's a sign of things to come. That, sir, is common sense.
- TheSabresTaco


Yet it happened to Marleau before thorton both still there both still the voice in the room that's common sense and how they gave them both contract extensions.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 9 @ 10:38 AM ET
thankfully he's not....
- Ur Not Me


neither is anyone you
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 9 @ 10:39 AM ET
And really shouldn't regardless....
- Ur Not Me


Your opinion is noted, however, Myers, or anyone on this team, and I mean anyone, should be traded if the other team over pays. Overpayment is a matter of judgement, but there's maybe 3 guys in this league I'd hang up on no matter what. The Sabres don't have them.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Feb 9 @ 10:40 AM ET
Clearly you overvalue a 3rd liner So i guess winnik on the leafs is getting a first rounder 21 points +11 can play center and excellent penalty killer.
- jake24242




funny how players are over-valued.... homerism???
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 9 @ 10:40 AM ET
Clearly you overvalue a 3rd liner So i guess winnik on the leafs is getting a first rounder 21 points +11 can play center and excellent penalty killer.
- jake24242

Stewart has 17 points in the last 23 games


on the worst team the NHL has seen in the last decade

name 1 third liner that has put up those numbers in the last 23 games

just 1
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 9 @ 10:40 AM ET
of course the Injuries and character issue hurt his trade value....The GM can ask for what ever he wants....will he get 3 assets ? maybe....will he get 3 assets like what lawless is suggesting? not a chance....Kane is a big, physical scoring winger who has under performed and has off ice issues that are being questioned by even his own team mates...
It will be interesting to see if the GM gets anything close to that asking price with his teams playoff appearance hanging in the balance....If we were talking a GM with a track record of winning then I would agree with Lawless...But Chevaldae is much like Kane... He hasn't proved anything yet....he hasn't even made the playoffs?

I liken back to what the Flyers got for Lindros.....a decent young d man....a B type of prospect that was bordering on flop and a draft pick.....Kane hardly has the pedigree of Lindros...

- landros 2



nice
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 9 @ 10:40 AM ET
Clearly you overvalue a 3rd liner So i guess winnik on the leafs is getting a first rounder 21 points +11 can play center and excellent penalty killer.
- jake24242


Clearly you haven't paid attention to past deadlines...

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 9 @ 10:42 AM ET
Yet it happened to Marleau before thorton both still there both still the voice in the room that's common sense and how they gave them both contract extensions.
- jake24242


Giving them contract extensions means nothing. They're old and they were stripped. Writing is clearly on the wall. They're in a state of transition where Vlasic, Joey P and Logan Couts are gonna take over. I do enjoy your use of common sense though. So, what number do you wear for the Sharks?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 9 @ 10:43 AM ET
You don't build a team around wingers that is correct.

You build around Reinhart and McEichel (which more than likely they will have 2 of 3). They have they additional assets to make a play for a guy like E Kane and not disrupt the rebuild in the least. IMO you will see both late 1st rd picks be moved for wingers.

- dadeadhead



Been saying this for sometime now. IMO the deadline will be quiet. The draft is when a majority of the moves (For Buffalo) will take place.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Feb 9 @ 10:43 AM ET
Your opinion is noted, however, Myers, or anyone on this team, and I mean anyone, should be traded if the other team over pays. Overpayment is a matter of judgement, but there's maybe 3 guys in this league I'd hang up on no matter what. The Sabres don't have them.
- TheSabresTaco



U know most teams are not trading away core pieces, so if others are happy to receive picks/prospects/and a player off roster for a player who should/could be a major piece of growth/building, then so be it.... I've said once here, w/Myers, Zad, Risto, are 3 studs in the stable....
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Feb 9 @ 10:43 AM ET
Stewart has 17 points in the last 23 games


on the worst team the NHL has seen in the last decade

name 1 third liner that has put up those numbers in the last 23 games

just 1

- homiedclown


Are you really comparing the past years of how stewart has played to a small sample size on a hot streak is that really what you are implying. Man a GM would laugh in you face and walk away.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 9 @ 10:43 AM ET
Stewart has 17 points in the last 23 games


on the worst team the NHL has seen in the last decade

name 1 third liner that has put up those numbers in the last 23 games

just 1

- homiedclown


Thomas Vanek.

....


Think about it
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Feb 9 @ 10:43 AM ET
Clearly you overvalue a 3rd liner So i guess winnik on the leafs is getting a first rounder 21 points +11 can play center and excellent penalty killer.
- jake24242


we're the worst team in the NHL who can't score for poop ..

if he was on a different team he have way more pts
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 9 @ 10:44 AM ET
funny how players are over-valued.... homerism???
- Ur Not Me

Yea we got a first for Gaustad.

NUFF SAID
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 9 @ 10:44 AM ET
Been saying this for sometime now. IMO the deadline will be quiet. The draft is when a majority of the moves (For Buffalo) will take place.
- ImThatGuy


Agreed. The only potential big move is Evander.

If not then everything major gets done at the draft.
Therat36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.27.2006

Feb 9 @ 10:45 AM ET
Kane makes 6 mil a year over payed for his work thus far has character issues..
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