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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 10 @ 10:06 AM ET
So for the most part we get good players for spare parts
- Slump Buster


Nope.

Stafford holds value around the league I offered Stewart to some other fans and majority said Make it Stafford and you got a deal". You would probably have to add a prospect or a higher pick.

Stewart for Caron and Spooner is nothing special. Its prospects that refills the system (Rochester is nothing great right now)

The third Is what WPG's asking price is.

Skinner is not what he used to be. Buy low (Or try to)
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 10 @ 10:07 AM ET
Yep. Someone is going to give them more for him on draft day.
- Cptmjl


I keep hearing this, but WPG is in the middle of a playoff race. It could come back to bite them if they dont add now.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:08 AM ET
Fun fact.


The Sutter family has 3,112 points in 5,514 gp (6 brothers and 2 sons/nephews).

- dadeadhead


Fun Fact

The Gretzky family has 4243 points in 1708 go (2 brothers)
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 10 @ 10:08 AM ET
Yep. Someone is going to give them more for him on draft day.
- Cptmjl



I'd do Foligno, Armia and a 1st


Something along those lines and maybe add a bit more if needed. If they comeback asking for another significant piece then just move on.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 10 @ 10:09 AM ET
The conversation today reminds of the ones that were had this summer after we signed Moulson and Meszaros.
- Sabresfan-365

We're going to be better conversations?
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Feb 10 @ 10:09 AM ET
Happier with Ennis, and we don't need 2 of them.

If the rest could work, that'd be beautiful.

- nfph


depends on who the prospect is. murray wants the team to get bigger, i trust him to not let the team turn back into the lollipop guild. skinner and ennis both provide speed, and offense- things we dont have tons of.

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 10 @ 10:10 AM ET
We're going to be better conversations?
- jochfr



Our conversations will not tank
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 10 @ 10:10 AM ET
I keep hearing this, but WPG is in the middle of a playoff race. It could come back to bite them if they dont add now.
- ImThatGuy

They could do a trade to help their push now but I'd have a hard time thinking they'll sacrifice value to do so. Maybe if they go on a little slide it may put them in a more desperate situation.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 10:11 AM ET
Fun Fact

The Gretzky family has 4243 points in 1708 go (2 brothers)

- adambuffalo



Unless Brent Gretzky all of a sudden scored a ton more points and games, your math needs work.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 10 @ 10:13 AM ET
Unless Brent Gretzky all of a sudden scored a ton more points, you math needs work.
- dadeadhead

That did not look right to me either....
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:13 AM ET
Fun Fact

The Gretzky family has 4243 points in 1708 go (2 brothers)

- adambuffalo

Brent "the not so great one" gretzky
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 10 @ 10:13 AM ET
They could do a trade to help their push now but I'd have a hard time thinking they'll sacrifice value to do so. Maybe if they go on a little slide it may put them in a more desperate situation.
- Cptmjl


I would start with that offer. Obviously there will be posturing from both sides. You could switch out prospects or add picks if needed.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 10 @ 10:13 AM ET
I'd do Foligno, Armia and a 1st


Something along those lines and maybe add a bit more if needed. If they comeback asking for another significant piece then just move on.

- Sabresfan-365

I'd think they'd be looking for a little more if the objective is getting help now for this season. Even if it was a move for the future I'd expect more in a better NHL roster player.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 10 @ 10:14 AM ET
Our conversations will not tank
- Sabresfan-365

"The organization is not tanking"
"We will not be picking in the top 3"
"Oprah is not fat"

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 10:14 AM ET
Brent "the not so great one" gretzky
- IndianaSabresFan



Better than Keith "I never made it" Gretzky.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:14 AM ET
Unless Brent Gretzky all of a sudden scored a ton more points and games, your math needs work.
- dadeadhead

what did brent have 7 gp and 1 point?
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:15 AM ET
Better than Keith "I never made it" Gretzky.
- dadeadhead

Brent did play for Fort Waynes IHL team back in the day.. he made it around the minor league circuit
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:15 AM ET
"The organization is not tanking"
"We will not be picking in the top 3"
"Oprah is not fat"

- jochfr

Oprah is PHat
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 10:15 AM ET
what did brent have 7 gp and 1 point?
- IndianaSabresFan



13 gp 4 points
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:17 AM ET
Like You said:

Line 1: ??? - McEichel - Moulson
Line 2: Foligno - Reinhart - Ennis
Line 3: Deslauries- Girgensons - ???
Line 4: ??? - McCormick - ???


Where do these players fit:
Armia
Gringo
Gionta
Hodgson
Flynnn
Schaller
Larsson

- ImThatGuy


Deslauriers is on the 4th line
Gionta, Hodgson & Flynn are the three "fill in the blanks" on the top9 to start
Grigorenko likely starts on the 4th & has to earn his minutes
If all goes well & Hodgson finds his offense again, eventually Flynn gets bumped to the 4th line
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 10 @ 10:18 AM ET
I would start with that offer. Obviously there will be posturing from both sides. You could switch out prospects or add picks if needed.
- ImThatGuy

Well assuming the Jets use Kane as help for their playoff push like you said what exactly does this trade


Foligno+Larsson+STl/NYI 1st to WPG for Kane


do for them right now? Switching out prospects or picks will do nothing for them this season as you know.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 10 @ 10:18 AM ET
"The organization is not tanking"
"We will not be picking in the top 3"
"Oprah is not fat"

- jochfr



"If we wanted to tank we wouldn't have signed all world defensemen Meszaros and Benoit"


There was also plenty of peace bridge jumping talk
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 10:19 AM ET
Well assuming the Jets use Kane as help for their playoff push like you said what exactly does this trade


Foligno+Larsson+STl/NYI 1st to WPG for Kane


do for them right now? Switching out prospects or picks will do nothing for them this season as you know.

- Cptmjl



It does give them an extra 1st to use towards another rental.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 10 @ 10:20 AM ET
"The organization is not tanking"
"We will not be picking in the top 3"
"Oprah is not fat"

- jochfr



She has a fat set of ....
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:20 AM ET
Deslauriers is on the 4th line
Gionta, Hodgson & Flynn are the three "fill in the blanks" on the top9 to start
Grigorenko likely starts on the 4th & has to earn his minutes
If all goes well & Hodgson finds his offense again, eventually Flynn gets bumped to the 4th line

- jdfitz77

If you want Grigs on the 4th line you might as well include him in a trade for Kane
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